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Fuzzyface   |
06-06-01, 11:50 AM (GMT)
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"Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
Details as follows:Don Quixote: (New Production)October 23,26, 27, November 1,2,3,5,6,8,9,10,13,14. July 15,16,17,23,24,27, August 2nd Onegin: November 22,27,29, December 1,3,4,5,7,10,12, January 17,19,23,24,29. July 18,19,20,22,31, August 3rd The Nutcracker: December 13,15,18,19,21,26,27,28,29,31, January 1,2,3,4,5th Memories Triple Bill: Beyond Bach, The Leaves are Fading, Marguerite and Armand: January 26,30, February 1,7,8,9th La Bayadere: February 11,12,13,15,21,23,25,26, March 2,8,12,13,14,15th Enduring Images: In the Middle Somewhat Elevated, Remanso, The Vertiginous Thrill of Exactitude, Por Vos Muero: March 4,6,18,20th Giselle: March 21,23,26,27,30, April 4,6,11,13,16th Cross Cultures: In the Middle Somewhat Elevated, Por Vos Muero, Carmen (EK): April 9,10,19,23,24th Romeo & Juliet: April 26,29,30th, May 2,4,8,9,17,23rd Trilogy: Beyond Bach, New Wheeldon Ballet, Month in the Country:
May 18,21,24,25th. Tribute to Dame Ninette de Valois (Prog TBA): July 25,26,29,30, August 1st
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RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002,
Steven, 06-06-01, (1)
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Fuzzyface, 06-06-01, (2)
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Steven, 06-06-01, (4)
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alison, 06-06-01, (3)
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Bruce M , 06-06-01, (5)
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eugene merrett, 06-06-01, (6)
RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002,
eugene merrett, 06-06-01, (7)
RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002,
Odile, 06-06-01, (8)
RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002,
alison, 06-06-01, (9)
RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002,
eugene merrett, 06-06-01, (10)
RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002,
Odile, 06-06-01, (11)
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sylvia, 06-06-01, (12)
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James, 06-06-01, (13)
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eugene merrett, 06-06-01, (14)
RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002,
Odile, 07-06-01, (16)
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Jason R, 07-06-01, (15)
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Claire S, 07-06-01, (17)
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eugene merrett, 07-06-01, (18)
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Odile, 07-06-01, (19)
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Viviane, 07-06-01, (20)
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Phoebe, 08-06-01, (21)
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Fiona, 30-08-01, (24)
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Elizabeth, 29-08-01, (22)
RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002,
Ann Williams, 29-08-01, (23)
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Steven |
06-06-01, 12:35 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
This looks interesting - after all the speculation. I think it is very well planned, with opportunities to see the 'new' or more 'challenging' repertoire either in isolation on special mixed bills or linked in with old favourites. This is a good way to do it as people get used to it.All those Nutcrackers, Giselles and Romeo & Juliets look a bit repetitive after this season but I guess that's the price you have to pay for so many new productions. I hope the casting will be interesting. Can anyone tell me what "The Leaves are Fading" is?
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Fuzzyface |
06-06-01, 12:46 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
It's a ballet by Anthony Tudor, choreographed for Gelsey Kirkland and ABT in the late 70s. It's been performed here in London a few times by ABT.
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Steven |
06-06-01, 01:12 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
Thank you. I supose that carries on a tradition - started this season - of reviving Tudor. So another case of evolution not revolution.
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alison |
06-06-01, 01:01 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
One of the threads I never got around to starting earlier in the year was "What do you want to see Ross Stretton doing at the Royal Ballet?" My number one answer was "please, not a solid season of Nutcrackers like last year!" It's so irritating having wall-to-wall Nutcrackers over Christmas (especially if AMP are reviving their version) and having nothing to do, then having a couple of weeks madness trying to fit in both the RB's and ENB's non-Nutcracker Christmas offerings.If the RB have to have Don Q, I'd rather see them with the Nureyev than with their previous soporific staging. Glad, of course, to see Onegin and Bayadere back, but for such long strings of performances? (I think I shall make sure I definitely renew my standby entitlement this year).
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Bruce M  |
06-06-01, 02:11 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
I have put the full release up - all 70K of it - in a separate thread:
http://www.danze.co.uk/dcforum/news/846.htmlComments on the season should continue to be made here (indeed the press release thread is locked to stop it getting too large) Now off to digest!
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eugene merrett |
06-06-01, 03:54 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
The RB season is very disappointing - only one MacMillan ballet and it is Romeo and Juliet again!!!! Non of his superb one act ballets!!! And very little new Ashton It is also doing Maugerite and Armound for the third season in row I think. And please no more Giselles! Comparing different productions of Giselle is like comparing different Big Macs at different McDonald. ( I wonder when the Economist will have a Giselle index to compare theatre tickets prices around the world - they have a Big Mac index for puchasing power parity!!).They are some nice triple bills esp Forsythe, Leaves are Fading and some other interesting stuff!! Don Q should be good - (at last one of Dowell productions consigned to the dustbin of history - pray the same goes for Swan Lake and others!) Opera season looks great though with 10 new productions!!!
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eugene merrett |
06-06-01, 03:55 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
The RB season is very disappointing - only one MacMillan ballet and it is Romeo and Juliet again!!!! Non of his superb one act ballets!!! And very little new Ashton It is also doing Maugerite and Armound for the third season in row I think. And please no more Giselles! Comparing different productions of Giselle is like comparing different Big Macs at different McDonald. ( I wonder when the Economist will have a Giselle index to compare theatre tickets prices around the world - they have a Big Mac index for puchasing power parity!!).They are some nice triple bills esp Forsythe, Leaves are Fading and some other interesting stuff!! Don Q should be good - (at last one of Dowell productions consigned to the dustbin of history - pray the same goes for Swan Lake and others!) Opera season looks great though with 10 new productions!!!
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Odile |
06-06-01, 05:08 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
>The RB season is very disappointing
>- only one MacMillan ballet
>and it is Romeo and
>Juliet again!!!! Non of
>his superb one act ballets!!! Well, according to an article in The Times the 10th anniversary
of Macmillan's death falls into Stretton's second season and there will be a lot more of his work then. >And very little new Ashton
> It is also doing
>Maugerite and Armound for the
>third season in row I
>think. And please no
>more Giselles! Comparing different
>productions of Giselle is like
>comparing different Big Macs at
>different McDonald. ( I wonder
>when the Economist will have
>a Giselle index to compare
>theatre tickets prices around the
>world - they have a
>Big Mac index for puchasing
>power parity!!).
>
Eugene, I am surprised at your reaction. Normally you are always the one whose eyes are firmly fixed on the financial side of things. I got the impression that all your comments, be it about promotions, ticket prices and programming are most of the time coming from that angle and now you blame the new boy in town for playing it safe? It would not make his job any easier to quickly gain the reputation of being the one who puts on innovative new things, playing to a fairly empty house. Works like Giselle, The Nutcracker and Romeo and Juliet are major box office draws and you make it sound like they should be done away with. I honestly do not understand. >They are some nice triple bills
>esp Forsythe, Leaves are Fading
>and some other interesting stuff!!
> Don Q should be
>good - (at last one
>of Dowell productions consigned to
>the dustbin of history -
> pray the same goes
>for Swan Lake and others!)
>
>
>Opera season looks great though with
>10 new productions!!!
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alison |
06-06-01, 05:25 PM (GMT)
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9. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
You notice Tony Hall makes a big thing about how they've frozen the bottom few ticket prices. I should ******* well hope so - it was bad enough having to suffer a 60%+ increase in prices for what used to be the rear amphitheatre when the House reopened, without having another increase on top of that!
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eugene merrett |
06-06-01, 06:27 PM (GMT)
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10. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
Regarding Odiles comments - I think I have gone to considerably length to make distinction between private for ventures using no public money and publically funded venture. As tax payers money is being used for the latter it has a obligation to more provide artistically adventurous. There is no purpose in spending tax payers money on ballets which are commercially viable without funding.(unless there is the issue of accessability such as the BBC buying the World Cup rights)
But I suspect that the ROH management are doing the best they can - they would love a more varied program but are unable to do so. I suppose the solution is more public money but that is a whole new are of debate.
I would say that in the main - the 2001-2002 season is not as good as the last one. We must have Romeo and juliet 8 or 9 years out of the last 10!!! This really does try my commitment to free enterprise!!!!!
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Odile |
06-06-01, 07:09 PM (GMT)
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11. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
>Regarding Odiles comments - I think
>I have gone to considerably
>length to make distinction between
>private for ventures using no
>public money and publically funded
>venture. Eugene, you did not seem to draw that line when you implied that
Dowell should not have had the right to create a new principal position for Cojocaru because of the additional cost. As tax payers
>money is being used for
>the latter it has a
>obligation to more provide artistically
>adventurous. There is at least some more adventurous work in the upcoming season. I think any AD at ROH has to at least try to not be accused of wasting tax payers money and balance popular with more adventurous ballets. Let's just give Ross Stretton a chance please. There is no
>purpose in spending tax payers
>money on ballets which are
>commercially viable without funding.(unless there
>is the issue of accessability
>such as the BBC buying
>the World Cup rights) There definatly would be an accessability issue for world class ballet as the summer season prices clearly show.
>
>
>But I suspect that the ROH
>management are doing the best
>they can - they would
>love a more varied program
>but are unable to do
>so. I suppose the
>solution is more public money
>but that is a whole
>new are of debate.
>
>I would say that in the
>main - the 2001-2002
>season is not as good
>as the last one.
>We must have Romeo and
>juliet 8 or 9 years
>out of the last 10!!!
> This really does try
>my commitment to free enterprise!!!!!
>
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James |
06-06-01, 08:58 PM (GMT)
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13. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
Although I often find myself agreeing with Eugene, I think he is wrong on the issue of publicly funded arts bodies not doing popular works. The same argument has been used over the National doing My Fair Lady. These days, it is obligatory to do a few crowd pleasers as the only way to fund more experimental work. Besides, our main national classical ballet company should be expected to tackle the big 19th and 20th Century classics and audiences naturally want to see the company's leading dancers interpret the famous roles. To argue otherwise is like asking the RSC not to do Hamlet, Lear, Twelfth Night, etc.I speak from the sorry recent experience of losing our local Arts Council and local authority funded theatre for nearly two years because of the financial disaster brought on by an avant garde artistic policy which simply led to half empty houses. Back to the RB, I think the new season's programme looks to be an excellent mix. Mind you, it seems there's a lot of Tchaikovsky in November, December and January!
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eugene merrett |
06-06-01, 10:49 PM (GMT)
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14. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
I did not say that a publically funded ballet company should only do esoteric, difficult to like work. But a publically funded institution has to do some new and original work which a profit maximizing firm would shy away from. I think the RB season is doing little new works to do justice to the £9 million it is getting. If box office receipts only mattered then it should be doing rock concerts or light musicals. Thats is fine if it your money.Debbie Bull once said that a publically funded art house should be a "laboratory and a museum". Because just being a museum would result in no new repertoire being added (one only has to look at the Kirov season as evidence of this). Where would MacMillan and Ashton be in the ROH managers in the 50s and 60s only looked at the box office receipts only. (To be fair one could argue that where would Ashton and Macmillan etc be if the ROH did not mount Swan Lake etc inorder to introduce new people to ballet and to cross subsidize the newer work).
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Odile |
07-06-01, 09:41 AM (GMT)
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16. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
>
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>Debbie Bull once said that a
>publically funded art house should
>be a "laboratory and a
>museum". Because just being
>a museum would result in
>no new repertoire being added
>(one only has to look
>at the Kirov season as
>evidence of this). By your own argument the Kirov season is not valid as evidence of that since it is a for profit venture funded by VH. The repertory is not fully representative of what the Kirov is doing at home. (To be
>fair one could argue that
>where would Ashton and Macmillan
>etc be if the ROH
>did not mount Swan Lake
>etc inorder to introduce new
>people to ballet and to
>cross subsidize the newer work).
>
My point exactly.
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Jason R |
07-06-01, 02:38 AM (GMT)
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15. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
I must say that I am very disappointed with the programme.Firsly there is so little Ashton;only ballets seen last season and I fear the worst for his legacy.I consider him to be one of the few post-Diaghelev choreographers of genius( along with Balanchine and Robbins)and I think it scandalous that the key bearers to such a heritage should let it perish.It has been so much better over the past two seasons with a few more Ashton works coming back into the rep.,but I think some different ballets should have been programmed such as Scenes de Ballet , The Two Pigeons or Valses Nobles et Sentimentales... And all the full length works resurrected for the umpteenth time...We surely don't need to see Giselle ,R&J again in consecutive seasons.It smacks of safe box office programming to me. Even the contemporary works seem strangely predictable.The Forsythe works appear to be the "on loan" modern masterpieces available to most ballet companies given the current dearth in world class choreography,although I must say that I love Ek's Carmen and can't wait to see it again. In fact there is very little I want to see,and I will have to seek more interesting rep. elsewhere.I'm sure that the BRB season will be much more exciting and I may have to make occaisional trips to Paris and New York. Shame about Ashton though....(Why is MacMillans'death to be acknowledged in 2002 and yet little regard paid to their so called "Founder Choreographer" in 1998????I appreciate that this is not Streatons problem though!!!! )
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Claire S |
07-06-01, 10:07 AM (GMT)
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17. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
>Firsly there is so little Ashton;only
>ballets seen last season and
>I fear the worst for
>his legacy.
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Marguerite and Armand and Month in the Country again? There are so many Ashton works that we haven't seen in recent years, why on earth would Ross Stretton choose the same things Anthony Dowell would have done? Looking forward to the new stuff, though, and I would think the dancers are too.>And all the full length works
>resurrected for the umpteenth time...We
>surely don't need to see
>Giselle ,R&J again in consecutive
>seasons.It smacks of safe box
>office programming to me.
> I couldn't agree more! It also strikes me that with R&J and Giselle they can wheel out the "big guns" - Guillem,Bussell, possibly even Mukhamedov - with maybe one first soloist getting the chance. And Nutcracker for the third Christmas in a row? We know it sells but . . .
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eugene merrett |
07-06-01, 11:03 AM (GMT)
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18. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
Well I hope Odile is right about what the Kirov do at home - but my impression is that they do little new stuff at home. And I doubt the Kirov can be compared to Western companies in originality. By their own admisssion they are a museum (as said by a former Kirov ballerina - now teacher with company)
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Odile |
07-06-01, 11:41 AM (GMT)
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19. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
>Well I hope Odile is right
>about what the Kirov do
>at home - but my
>impression is that they do
>little new stuff at home.
> And I doubt the
>Kirov can be compared to
>Western companies in originality.
>By their own admisssion they
>are a museum (as said
>by a former Kirov ballerina
>- now teacher with company)
>
I believe the Kirov can also not be compared to a Western company as far as their financial situation is concerned. Considering how much their public funding must have gone down over the past years I think they still manage to maintain a remarkable high standard of dancing. But this is a different subject.
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Viviane |
07-06-01, 12:23 PM (GMT)
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20. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
>........ but my impression is that they do
>little new stuff at home. Someone told us - about a month ago - that Neumeier is working with the Kirov, so... ?
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Phoebe |
08-06-01, 06:48 PM (GMT)
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21. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
i know we have had a lot of Nutcrackers but don't you all agree that it is lovely to see the RB in anything.
So many children are introduced to ballet via 'The Nutcracker' in particular and as they are the future isn't that a good thing!
It isn't my all time favourite ballet but I find something new in every performance of every ballet. It also is the first ballet I saw and it opened up a wonderful world for me so it is special in that respect.
Also, please give Ross Stretton a chance it isn't an easy job and Anthony Dowell will be a very hard act to follow.
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Fiona |
30-08-01, 03:56 PM (GMT)
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24. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
I agree with you wholeheartedly, Phoebe, about Nutcracker; it is the perfect Christmas Ballet. Children are the dancers and ballet fans of the future, and what better way to introduce them than with the R.B. production? It is magical! It also makes money for the R.O.H., which other productions at that time of year maybe wouldn't?!
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Elizabeth |
29-08-01, 05:41 PM (GMT)
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22. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
Is there any way of finding out when particular artists are performing ahead of time (barring indisposition, of course)?My husband has enormous admiration for Guillem after seeing her on Tv and I'd ove to be bal to get tickets.
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Ann Williams |
29-08-01, 10:47 PM (GMT)
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23. "RE: Royal Ballet Season 2001-2002" |
Elizabeth
As far as I know, the only performance we can be sure Guillem will be in is Ashton's 'Marguerite & Armand' (Jan/Feb. 2002),but I don't personally feel this shows her at her best. She would be wonderful in 'Don Quixote' or either of the two Forsyths - 'In the Middle'/'Vertiginous Thrill of Exactitude' (March 2000).I am sure we would all love to know what it was exactly that your husband saw on TV which so turned him on to Mlle. Guillem?
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