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Bruceadmin

01-04-03, 00:40 AM (GMT)
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"Widening of access to ballet and the high arts"
 
  
There are new moves afoot from DCMS (Dept for Culture, Media and Sport) and ACE (Arts Council England) to monitor the widening of access to ballet and the high arts.

The Inititive has far reaching implications for audiences in general and the ROH in particular and we make no apology for an early release of a piece in our April Magazine :
Widening of access to ballet and the high arts



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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts Carly Gillies 01-04-03 1
  RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts Jane Sadmin 01-04-03 2
     RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts Steven 01-04-03 3
         RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts Carly Gillies 01-04-03 4
             RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts Steven 01-04-03 5
                 RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts Ann Welsh 01-04-03 6
         RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts alison 01-04-03 7
             RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts Carly Gillies 02-04-03 8
                 RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts Lynette H 02-04-03 9
                     RE:Scheme to widen theatregoing "flops" Bluebird 02-04-03 10
                         RE:Scheme to widen theatregoing "flops" Carly Gillies 02-04-03 11
  RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts Diandra 02-04-03 12
     RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts Helen 02-04-03 13
         RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts Lynette H 02-04-03 14
             RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts Lynette H 02-04-03 16
     RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts Robert 02-04-03 15

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Carly Gillies

01-04-03, 09:23 AM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts"
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Yes, I had heard rumours already about this scheme.
Aparently the plans are to reserve a number of front stalls and circle seats each performance, for sale to those who can produce a UB40 or or valid rehab card.
An "inclusive dress code" will be promoted with extra cudos for doc martens and jeans.
I'd also heard a "two-for-the-price-of-one" proposal for tattoos and body piercing, but it wasn't made clear if both parties had to comply.
And there had been hot debate about how to discourage big hair and twin-sets.

"Access by a socially desirable mix of people is the key"

I think that line says it all, and they're really going for chic rather than social inclusion.

I remain very sceptical


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Jane Sadmin

01-04-03, 11:38 AM (GMT)
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2. "RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts"
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   With some creative thinking, it should be possible to devise tests that would identify regulars posing as newcomers. For instance, offer free drinks in the Floral Hall for the first ten minutes of the interval - anyone who can find there way there from, say, the right hand side of the stalls circle in that time has obviously been here before and could be ignominiously evicted.


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Steven

01-04-03, 02:31 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts"
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   Anyone who bothers going for the free drink clearly hasn't been there before!

Last time I was offered a free drink - on a disastrous opera night when they couldn't do the production because of technical difficulties, so we got the whole cast in costume performing on a bare stage instead - it turned out to be a tiny espresso-sized sip of house wine.

I'm sure it made up for being charged up to £160 for the evening.


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Carly Gillies

01-04-03, 02:54 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts"
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   Ah but this time it could be bottled beer - with the "give away" being anyone who asked for a glass!


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Steven

01-04-03, 04:51 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts"
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   You think we got the wine in a glass Carly?

It was a paper cup!


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Ann Welsh

01-04-03, 05:02 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts"
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   And a large plate of tree-grown spaghetti will be served free in the amphi bar to those qualifying - along with a complimentary plastic cup of Irn-bru to fortify the spirit!


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alison

01-04-03, 05:37 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts"
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   BTW, I noticed a punter who seemed to have a "free programme" voucher for Sleeping Beauty the other day, like the ones they used to stick on the bottom of the letters to the non-mailing list people. Have they started that up again? (sorry, I realise we're getting slightly off the original point here).


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Carly Gillies

02-04-03, 08:54 AM (GMT)
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8. "RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts"
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   OMG! Do you mean that this wasn't an April Fool?!!


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Lynette H

02-04-03, 09:12 AM (GMT)
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9. "RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts"
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   Last night on Radio 3 there was a short piece on Mayor Ken's initiative to provide reduced priced tickets for West End shows in an attempt to perk up the market after the fall in tourism - and of course to widen "access" to people who attended the theatre very rarely or never. Evidently the initiative is perceived to be failing because the "wrong" people i.e. those who already go to the theatre at least once a month are buying the majority of the tickets.....

It was quite surreal. Don't suppose anyone can find any links about this ?


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Bluebird

02-04-03, 09:31 AM (GMT)
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10. "RE:Scheme to widen theatregoing "flops""
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   LAST EDITED ON 02-04-03 AT 09:36 AM (GMT)

Here's one link for an item headed "Scheme to widen theatregoing flops" in Monday's Times:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,170-629654,00.html


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Carly Gillies

02-04-03, 09:44 AM (GMT)
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11. "RE:Scheme to widen theatregoing "flops""
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   Lynette
I honestly thought your piece was a spoof. - "tie-breaker questions" indeed!
Certainly it's all a bit surreal.
Ignore my first response which obviously is a piece of nonsense!
Er, Looks like I'm the "fool".


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Diandra

02-04-03, 11:11 AM (GMT)
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12. "RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts"
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   The ROH's attempts to widen access are laughable. They certainly know how to 'spin' on the issues, but at the end of the day how many punters can afford the prices they charge especially if you want to go on a regular basis. I earn about £20k (the national average wage), but still can't afford decent seats (where you can actually see the stage) so I buy standing. This is irritating because all of us have already contributed through our taxes & through the lottery.

At the end of the day the type of performances that the ROH hosts are only likely to appeal to a certain proportion of the population. Most of my friends have no interest in watching adult men & women pretend to be fairies & princes when they prefer contemporary culture & music & would rather be at a bar or club than having to endure the stuffy atmosphere that pervades ROH.

Even if they try to reserve seats for certain groups, this cannot be enforced. Older people will buy on behalf of grandchildren & use the tickets themselves etc. The management are really deluding themselves if they think they can attract some groups, I work in social housing where many families survive on less than £200 per week & struggle to feed themselves & wouldn't contemplate £80 a ticket. What the ROH really means is that they need to encourage middle class suitably wealthy ethnic minorities through the door to make up the quotas that the arts council insists on.

Sorry to be so cynical, but each year the ROH goes on about widening access & every year their prices go up & become LESS accessible to the public which deters people from attending. The National Theatre for example are really making an effort to draw new audiences with a package of lower prices, different types of productions & auditorium configurations. At the end of the day its a challenge to get other groups to attend events outside of their culture & what sort of message does dsicounting to those groups send out, it could be interpreted as quite patronising. There isn't an easy answer, but I would expect a more imaginative answer from the professionals in access & the arts council that our taxes fund.


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Helen

02-04-03, 12:15 PM (GMT)
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13. "RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts"
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   I still think it's a joke.


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Lynette H

02-04-03, 01:20 PM (GMT)
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14. "RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts"
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   Sorry - I should have said explicitly - yes it wa an April Fool. But it is scarily close to the truth and that article on Ken's cheap tickets did give me pause for thought.


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Lynette H

02-04-03, 05:33 PM (GMT)
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16. "RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts"
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   More on Ken's scheme in the independent

'although this year's initiative did appeal to young people, they were concerned that the Mayor had invested thousands of pounds in promotions without proper evaluation of whether they have reached the target audience.

One of Mr Livingstone's key pledges in his culture strategy was "to make the arts more accessible to Londoners and celebrate cultural diversity". But Meg Hillier, the committee chair, said: "For the past two years, the theatre-ticket promotion has been marked by woolly objectives, an absence of rigorous evaluation and questionable claims of success.

"Without a fundamental re-examination of the promotion, we are concerned it risks becoming a 'feelgood' event which subsidises existing theatre-goers without contributing substantially to generating new audiences or supporting culture in other parts of London." '

http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/theatre/news/story.jsp?story=392777


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Robert

02-04-03, 05:15 PM (GMT)
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15. "RE: Widening of access to ballet and the high arts"
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   Speak for yourself regarding the lottery! I thought it was a method of getting the poor to pay for the rich to have fun.


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