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Terry

02-10-00, 10:39 PM (GMT)
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"ETUDES by H.Lander"
 
   I've been curious recently as to why ETUDES is becoming so popular amongst ballet companies. ABT is doing it, POB has done it, ENB is doing it, and La Scala Milan will be doing it next year. Does anyone know when this piece was choreographed and who Harald Lander is?

THANKS!


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: ETUDES by H.Lander Fuzzyface 03-10-00 1
  RE: ETUDES by H.Lander MPN 03-10-00 2
     RE: ETUDES by H.Lander Eugene Merrett 03-10-00 3
  RE: ETUDES by H.Lander gerald dowler 03-10-00 4
     RE: ETUDES by H.Lander Richard J 03-10-00 5
  RE: ETUDES by H.Lander valerie lawson 04-10-00 6
  RE: ETUDES by H.Lander TERRY 04-10-00 7
     RE: ETUDES by H.Lander Kate R 04-10-00 8
         RE: ETUDES by H.Lander Alexandra 07-10-00 9
             RE: ETUDES by H.Lander Bruce Madmin 08-10-00 10
                 RE: ETUDES by H.Lander Alexandra 08-10-00 11
         RE: ETUDES by H.Lander alison 11-10-00 12

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Fuzzyface

03-10-00, 09:00 AM (GMT)
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1. "RE: ETUDES by H.Lander"
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   It's mystifying - I've always thought that it was a tedious ballet - or at least it's always been awful when I've seen ENB dance it. It was originally choreographed for the Royal Danish Ballet in the early 1950's (I think), but quickly became a trademark for the old London Festival Ballet. I think it was one of the first things they did on TV. Basically it's a class room ballet moving from barre work to centre practice,and flashy bits at the end. It also has really awful music.


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MPN

03-10-00, 09:47 AM (GMT)
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2. "RE: ETUDES by H.Lander"
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   It's one of the greatest neoclassical ballet of the century. It was created for Royal Danish Ballet at the mid century and how Funny face say it shows a troup since the barre exercices to the practice and a stage final. We have two group of ballerinas, one in black tutus, one in white tutus, the men are in academic costum grey. It's for three solist, two men and one girl. The Girl's variation is one of the most difficult I saw, It begins by déboulés more and more fast and after it's difficulte to describe it. One of the man has a variation based on fouettés with 6 girls around him which must tourn with him at the same speed. The man must make the famous "mazurka" after.
It's about the classical technic.
The music is an adaptation for orchestra about Etudes for piano by Czerny.
Two many troup have it but the best one is the POB. And often it's dancer of POB who show to the other troup how dance the ballet. The troup must be perfect. And I think only some troup must dance it very fine.
With Palais de Cristal it's for me the other great ballet based only on technic of Dancer.


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Eugene Merrett

03-10-00, 11:54 AM (GMT)
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3. "RE: ETUDES by H.Lander"
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   I saw this ballet at the met in 1997 with La Sylphide Act 2, Janacek Sinfonietta in what is the best of ballet I have ever had!!

I thought Etude is the most spectacular plotless ballet I have ever seen. It seemed to be perfect on the huge Met auditorium. It may not have humanity of Ashton or the steely precision of Balanchine but as a spectacle it has no equal in the realm of plotless ballet. I cannot wait to see it again. It has been tool long!!


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gerald dowler

03-10-00, 04:39 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: ETUDES by H.Lander"
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   I think that the dismissal of Etudes by Fuzzyface is rather too strong - but horses for courses...
Nor is it, I think, a 'great' ballet. What it is is hugely enjoyable, covering, as it does, the range of ballet technique. It becomes very exciting, not least for the music which, as so correctly posted, is the arrangement of the Czerny piano exercise which rise in difficulty.
Lander was a fine man of the stage and knew how to build up to a climax. That only Paris dancers can do it justice may be a little of french chauvinism from MJN but it certainly needs top quality dancing from all, not least from the two men. The most recent outing I saw was in New York with Bocca and Carreno as the men.
LFB (now ENB) used to do it well in the Schaufuss days (he and Armand were particularly delicious, successively outdoing each other) and it also provided a good vehicle for Andrea Hall.
I for one am looking forward greatly to see it again in January.


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Richard J

03-10-00, 09:43 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: ETUDES by H.Lander"
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   I remember this as a showpiece for LFB. It does show Lander as one who knew how to wow the gallery, and certainly builds to its impressive climax in a very effective way. It makes an impact, but it couldn't lay claim to be a great piece, surely? A good virtuoso crowd-pleaser yes, and therefore a good piece to see occasionally as a technical tour-de-force for the end of a triple bill (when you've hopefully had something more substantial before it).

I guess that Czerny Etudes are appropriate in a way, given the general idea behind the piece, but they are, after all, exercises - nothing more.

Le Palais de Cristal, by contrast uses a decent piece of orchestral music that you could expect to find in a concert programme: the Symphony in C that Bizet wrote when he was seventeen (a piece that is neatly made while not pretending to any great depth).

There is a difference surely between a choreographer's response to the structure of a worthwhile piece of concert music (not all choreographers are up to it) and organising a demonstration of the elements of classical technique in an effective showpiece.


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valerie lawson

04-10-00, 05:17 AM (GMT)
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6. "RE: ETUDES by H.Lander"
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And the Australian Ballet is doing it in February? Former AB artistic director Maina Gielgud brought it into rep.


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TERRY

04-10-00, 07:09 AM (GMT)
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7. "RE: ETUDES by H.Lander"
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   Thanks so much for all this information!
It's been helpful!
So who, in your opinion, has performed the best in the 3 principles roles? (this is a very subjective question...but...)


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Kate R

04-10-00, 07:47 AM (GMT)
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8. "RE: ETUDES by H.Lander"
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   My vote would got to one of the POB casts, may be Pietragalla, le Riche and Legris.

Interesting that Eugene saw Etudes with Sinfonietta. I have always thought of those two ballets as being like champagne, if danced well, but I am not sure about them on the same bill.


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Alexandra

07-10-00, 10:44 PM (GMT)
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9. "RE: ETUDES by H.Lander"
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   The versions of "Etudes" done today are very different from the original Danish version. We ran an article in "DanceView" about it several years ago, written by a young Danish critic, Alexander Meinertz. If anyone is interested in the history of the ballet and how it's changed, you might want to look at the article in our archives:

http://www.balletalert.com/magazines/dvarchives/dvarchives/ArcFeatures/etudes.htm

(Bruce, I hope you don't mind my posting this link here. If you do, of course, please delete it.)


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Bruce Madmin

08-10-00, 07:45 AM (GMT)
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10. "RE: ETUDES by H.Lander"
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   >(Bruce, I hope you don't mind
>my posting this link here.
> If you do, of
>course, please delete it.)

As a rule I'm generally against webmasters, and those heavily involved in other sites, posting links back to their own site. The concern I have is that there are some frightfully pushy folks out there who would naturally run with this to excess and I would hate to have lots of postings and links scattered about that they considered important and others probably don't. The nightmare is that the worst of aab happens.

I'm not against cross-linking but figure the best people to do it are readers since they are nominally independent and links of true value to other readers are more likely to materialise that way.

None of this is a quality judgement on Ballet Alert (which having subscribed to the hardcopy mag I know to be brill) or the link which I'm sure is most pertinent and interesting - the problem of course is that its very difficult to allow some to do something while saying no to others.

A final point worth making to others sites/webmasters is that we do allow you to put links on Ballet.co. What's more it's an instant and automatic process and you get to choose your own words. This probably makes us more open to other sites than most - even if the quality of some of the resultant links is horrid! For reference the page that handles this is at:
http://www.ballet.co.uk/cgi/dclinks98/dclinks98.cgi


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Alexandra

08-10-00, 03:27 PM (GMT)
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11. "RE: ETUDES by H.Lander"
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   LAST EDITED ON 08-10-00 AT 04:01 PM (GMT)

Bruce, I don't need the business I posted the link to an article, not by me, because it is the only article in English about "Etudes" of which I am aware.

As you know, I've posted links to articles on ballet.co since our site was up. I'm writing this just to differentiate this post from what you've described, which I agree is an annoyance. Of course, you have every right to make rules for your site, and if my posting has caused a problem, please delete the link and accept my apologies.


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alison

11-10-00, 12:58 PM (GMT)
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12. "RE: ETUDES by H.Lander"
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   Oddly enough, I picked up an old copy of Dance and Dancers at Dance Books the other day, and it contained Toni Lander's obituary. According to this, Harald Lander created Etudes with (ex-wife) Margot Lander in the lead, but Toni (not yet married to H.) was second cast and met the technical demands better. The choreography was revised in 1951 to allow for her greater virtuosity, and this is the version we now know.


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