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cf

04-09-00, 12:19 PM (GMT)
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"Major companies"
 
   What constitutes a 'major' ballet company?

1.Size of company
2.Finance
3.Reputation

and which companies worldwide fall into this category?


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  RE: Major companies Rosalie 04-09-00 1
     RE: Major companies cf 04-09-00 2
         RE: Major companies Ann Welsh 04-09-00 3
             RE: Major companies cf 04-09-00 4
  RE: Major companies Stuart Sweeney 04-09-00 5
     RE: Major companies Stephanie Wragg 05-09-00 6
         RE: Major companies Stuart Sweeney 05-09-00 7
             Case by case companies Stephanie Wragg 05-09-00 8

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Rosalie

04-09-00, 01:07 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Major companies"
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   Ballet de l'Opéra National de Paris, of course!!!!


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cf

04-09-00, 02:06 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: Major companies"
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   so is that reputation?


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Ann Welsh

04-09-00, 02:37 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: Major companies"
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   There was an article in the main News section of yesterday's Sunday Times about the financial crisis at ENB which might be relevant to this. Sorry, haven't got the website address but I'm sure Bruce has a link.


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cf

04-09-00, 02:42 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: Major companies"
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   Thanks Anne, I did see that one this morning.

Could companies such as the New Zealand Ballet and Vienna Festival Ballet (?) be termed as 'major'?


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Stuart Sweeney

04-09-00, 10:50 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: Major companies"
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   I've seen an attempt to define 'international', 'national', etc, but I have to say that I felt that the problems that arose with such a system outweighed the advantages, which seemed exceptionally slight. I've not seen an attempt to define 'major' in this context and I'm sure we have all used such terms from time to time, but I do not believe they are capable of exact definition. So if someone disagrees with me when I say that X is a major company, then so be it.

More importantly, I'm not sure that it is a helpful term to spend much time on. There is an implication of size there and it may well be that a small company, particularly thinking of some of the examples in the US or Continental Europe may be a lot more satisfying to see than a larger one.

So, I'm more interested in discussing 'fine' companies rather than 'major' ones.



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Stephanie Wragg

05-09-00, 11:41 AM (GMT)
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   I think there is also context i.e. how many others are in the immediate surrounding. For example, in Canada, the major companies are the National Ballet of Canada and the Royal Winnipeg Ballet. Some would add to that Les Grands Ballets Canadiens. However, in terms of fitting in with European companies, I don't think they would be considered major companies.

Perhaps a classification similar to the Forbes 500 would be fun to start! However, I am not sure if financial information would be easy to extract.

May I ask what prompted this discussion?


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Stuart Sweeney

05-09-00, 12:22 PM (GMT)
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   Stephanie, your mention of the Royal Winnipeg underlines the problems with any form of League table or Fortune 500. Clement Crisp has written that RWB's Evelyn Hart is one of the finest ballerinas performing today, especially in 'Giselle'. Better to take what each company has to offer on a case by case basis in my view.


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Stephanie Wragg

05-09-00, 12:42 PM (GMT)
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8. "Case by case companies"
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   >Stephanie, your mention of the Royal
>Winnipeg underlines the problems with
>any form of League table
>or Fortune 500. Clement
>Crisp has written that RWB's
>Evelyn Hart is one of
>the finest ballerinas performing today,
>especially in 'Giselle'. Better
>to take what each company
>has to offer on a
>case by case basis in
>my view.

**I have to agree with you here. I've seen Evelyn Hart and she is wonderful, I must admit I haven't folllowed RBW lately but is she still dancing? Karen Kain at NBC was amazing and there is no one there right now who comes close to her artistry. Each company out there has good elements and so none can be eliminated from a league table.

Also, things change in companies with arrivals, departures, collaborations etc such that within a short period of time the whole look of an company can be different, thus outdating any classification.


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