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Bruce Madmin

24-07-00, 00:26 AM (GMT)
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"Results of going abroad for dance Mini-poll"
 
   Ok folks, the Mini-poll has been updated and here are the last results as commented up... do feel free to respond with your own thoughts on the results.


Balletco Poll

Have you ever been abroad to see a ballet or dance company?


never: 32.7%

yes - occasionally: 30.6%

once or twice: 22.4%

yes - frequently: 12.2%

a ludicrous idea: 2.0%

by CgiScripts.Net



Poll: Have you ever been abroad to see a ballet or dance company?
17 July 2000

What a bold lot those who post/vote are - 65% venturing abroad to see a company.

I suspect this is not necessarily a representative sample, and that of the hundreds who look in each week many would not go so far in their seeing of dance. Just a hunch.

On the other hand it is a smaller world and travel has never been easier...

Our Mini-poll page also includes all our old Mini-polls:
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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Results of going abroad for dance Mini-poll Carly Gillies 24-07-00 1
     RE: Results of going abroad for dance Mini-poll Ann Welsh 25-07-00 2
         RE: Results of going abroad for dance Mini-poll Liz P 26-07-00 3
             RE: Results of going abroad for dance Mini-poll Caz 27-07-00 6
                 RE: Results of going abroad for dance Mini-poll Marie 30-07-00 7
                     RE: Results of going abroad for dance Mini-poll Bruce Madmin 30-07-00 8
                         RE: Results of going abroad for dance Mini-poll eugene merrett 30-07-00 9

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Carly Gillies

24-07-00, 10:19 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Results of going abroad for dance Mini-poll"
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   I'd be interested in the place of residence of the respondents.

If you're in London I don't see that there would be nearly the same need to travel to see ballet - though paradoxically it's cheaper and easier to travel abroad from London than anywhere else.

From Glasgow - which gets very little ballet indeed - it's almost as easy to travel abroad to Paris, Amsterdam or London, as it is to get to Edinburgh.

Yet another aspect of that ballet.co 'London-or-elsewhere' old chestnut ?


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Ann Welsh

25-07-00, 03:38 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: Results of going abroad for dance Mini-poll"
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   I suspect also that a lot of us in the provinces would travel quite a lot within the UK to see something we really wanted to - incidentally costing much more by rail than a cheap air flight.


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Liz P

26-07-00, 11:09 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: Results of going abroad for dance Mini-poll"
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   I was one of the people who put that I go regularly abroad to see ballet. I live in Nottingham but used to live in Paris where I rediscovered ballet and became a particular fan of Nicolas LeRiche. I've only been to see one ballet in London-Marguerite & Armand, although I've been to see BRB a number of times. Comments about ticket prices in London should always be seen in context with the need to buy a rail ticket and hotel room if you want to see an evening performance if you live outside London. When I go to Paris I fly with Sainsbury's air miles (equivalent to 45 a ticket) and stay in a hotel for 20 a night!! Hence the 30 odd ballets I've been to see in Paris and only the one in London. I'm thinking of organising a group trip sometime as I wonder if people would be happier doing that rather than going individually- does anyone think that would work? Here's another idea how about the RB getting radical and putting on coaches from other major cities 5 return if you've got a ticket for a performance -now that would really do something about access! Any comments?


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Caz

27-07-00, 11:44 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: Results of going abroad for dance Mini-poll"
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>Here's another idea how about
>the RB getting radical and
>putting on coaches from other
>major cities 5 return if
>you've got a ticket for
>a performance -now that would
>really do something about access!
>Any comments?

I'm sure I heard that idea before - last year sometime. Weren't the Arts Council or somesuch talking about doing something like that? I never heard anything more about it though.

I've just totalled up the cost of my last visit to see "Manon" on July 17th.
Train ticket: 47.50
Accomadation: nothing - stayed with friend. Phew...
Travel Pass to get to Covent Garden: 4.10
ROH ticket: 26.50
Meal: 17.00
Taxi: 15.00

Total: 110.10 (ouch, but it was worth it, Irek Mukhamedov was dancing)

The other fairly major problem in going to see ballet in London from here is the time it takes. It has to be two days every time 'coz of travel and there's just no way I can take the time off work to see as much ballet as I'd like



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Marie

30-07-00, 11:19 AM (GMT)
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7. "RE: Results of going abroad for dance Mini-poll"
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   I went to see Giselle and the triple bill the 27th and 28th at the RB.It is the first time I go abroad to see ballet.I must say that London is very expensive especially the hotels.The transport are also much more expensive than Paris.But London is very convenient,there are lots of 24 hours opened stores.The next time I go to England I would like to visit other little cities perhaps more "british" than London.
Some words about the Royal Ballet:first ,the box office.They are very nice much more commercial than at the Opera de Paris.When you ask for something you get an answer and they always have a smile.The prices are more expensive than at Garnier.I'm not sure but they seem to go from 8.5 to 60 whereas in Paris they are from 30F to 395F probably because of the state subsidy.This is not ballet but I should say that we pay too much taxes in France.The stage and the auditorium were quite small so even if you are in the amphitheatre you seem to be very near.I think it's a positive point for a ballet.This auditorium would also be well suited for a play.The setting and costumes of act 1 Giselle were sober and "traditional England".Perhaps the tutus of the wilis could be more "romantiques tutus", with more volume.The triple bill was interesting.I had already seen these ballets.I saw The firebird in may performed by the POB school.The costumes were different.But what I found odd the 28th was that the public laughed during the firebird solo.Apparently they found it comic but it is really not a humorous ballet!Then Marguerite and Armand.Splendid dresses for Guillem.Le Riche's first blue costume was not very elegant.And why does he have to wear this goatee?!Really not appropriate and quite awful.The dancing was exciting and we could fell there were some chemistry between them.I thought Le Riche was particularly good in the angry scene.Then The Concert.I had already seen it in Paris.It always have the same effect on the public.Guillem was particularly brilliant and what's more she seemed to enjoy dancing that.Well,it was a very nice evening.Now it's your turn,English balletgoers,to cross the Channel.By Eurostar,it's only only 3 hours and you arrive at Gare de Lyon in the center of Paris.


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Bruce Madmin

30-07-00, 01:28 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: Results of going abroad for dance Mini-poll"
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   Marie

Next time you come over you must say - I'm sure that more than a few of us would like to say hello. It's also nice to get some wider view on Covent Garden and what its like - sometimes its hard for us to appreciate things because we are so close too.

There are many towns/cities rather different to London - alas finding ballet/dance in them can be tricky! It's possibly too late this year but I would recommend the Edinburgh Festival to one and all. Usually there is interesting ballet/dance to be seen and the fringe festival makes for a rich and exhausting experience. This year NYCB and NDT1/2/3 are in town. It happens in August each year.

And some possible plans are being hatched for a trip to Paris. But could I ask you to contact me by email (bruce@ballet.co.uk)?

Bruce


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eugene merrett

30-07-00, 02:05 PM (GMT)
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9. "RE: Results of going abroad for dance Mini-poll"
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   I have that there is not enough ballet/opera in London for my wants. I also like travelling so I do travel for ballet alot. It has been mostly to the USA. This is ideal because they do performances on Sunday as well as afternoon evening performances on Saturday and of quite different ballets. This is perfect for a quick weekend and is probably no more expensive per ballet then what Caz has paid after taken into account discount shopping etc.

I have not seen so much in Paris. This is partly because of lack of internet booking (until now hopefully) and as a non French speaking person I find the telephone booking inpenetrable! Also as they only do one ballet at a time - I do not find it so cost and time effective to go to Paris then New York.

I am thinking about a trip to the Netherlands. Does anyone know the Web site for the Dutch National Ballet?


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