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Eugene Merrett

11-07-00, 10:26 AM (GMT)
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"New Swan Lake on DVD"
 
   OK folks - it really is time to get your DVD player (now under 200!!!).

A German company called Artehous (do I have to translate that?) has issued 10 DVD and promise to release 50 by Christmas. 2 of the original 10 are ballet videos - Mats Eks's Sleeping Beauty (ugh!) and Swan Lake by the Deutsche Oper in Berlin (Leanne Benjamin former company if I am not mistaken). This is a traditional Swan Lake by that most traditional of conductors Daniel Barenboim!!! Moreover at 25 it is cheaper then a new CD of it!

Although there are just two ballet videos in the new launch if they issue more DVD in the same ratio then there could be as many as 10 ballet videos by the end of the year issued by this company. Lets hope so!!

DG are also going to issue 50 DVD by the end of the year. But I doubt any will be ballet as they have no ballet videos in their vast video library! (almost entirely televised opera at the Met)


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: New Swan Lake on DVD Angelo 11-07-00 1
     RE: New Swan Lake on DVD Angelo 11-07-00 2
  RE: New Swan Lake on DVD David 11-07-00 3
     RE: New Swan Lake on DVD eugene Merrett 13-07-00 4
         RE: New Swan Lake on DVD Jeannie 13-07-00 5
             RE: New Swan Lake on DVD Claire 13-07-00 6
             RE: New Swan Lake on DVD Jane N 13-07-00 7
                 RE: New Swan Lake on DVD eugene Merrett 14-07-00 8
                     RE: New Swan Lake on DVD Jeannie 14-07-00 9
                         RE: New Swan Lake on DVD Jane N 14-07-00 10

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Angelo

11-07-00, 08:35 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: New Swan Lake on DVD"
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   Dear Eugene ,
they have yet published also "Corsaire" (ABT)
and "Giselle" (Ferri)!


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Angelo

11-07-00, 08:51 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: New Swan Lake on DVD"
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   Sorry, I was too "hurried"!
"Corsaire" will be published at the end of July.
See Amazon .co.uk.


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David

11-07-00, 09:35 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: New Swan Lake on DVD"
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   >OK folks - it really is
>time to get your DVD
>player (now under 200!!!).
>
>A German company called Artehous (do
>I have to translate that?)

No, Eugene, but you could try spelling it correctly:

Arthaus

>has issued 10 DVD and
>promise to release 50 by
>Christmas. 2 of the
>original 10 are ballet videos
>- Mats Eks's Sleeping Beauty
>(ugh!) and Swan Lake by
>the Deutsche Oper in Berlin

There's also the Ferri La Scala Giselle, and, far be it from me
to advertise here, but all three of them are in stock at
Dance Books, for 24.99 each.

The ABT Corsaire is promised for next month.


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eugene Merrett

13-07-00, 03:05 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: New Swan Lake on DVD"
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   I do not have a problem with you advertising new releases. In fact I would welcome it! But this is really up to Bruce to decide!


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Jeannie

13-07-00, 05:47 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: New Swan Lake on DVD"
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   Thanks, David & Eugene, for this info. I am particularly intrigued by the prospect of seeing Eks' Beauty. Now for a 'dumb question' regarding DVD-versus-videotape:

Will DVD go the way of LaserDisks? LaserDisks (which existed in the mid-1990s & died a quick death due to their inability to record programs from television) seemed to offer exactly the same sharp-resolution quality as do the new, smaller-sized DVDs. What, besides the smaller size, is the advantage of DVD over the old laserdisks? Can recordings be made from DVD to video & vice-versa? Or is this yet another attempt by the film industry to stem people's abilities to make recordings from TV or (heaven forbid!) from other videotapes?

To summarize: Why would the average consumer replace a video system with a DVD system? Sharpness of picture alone is not a good enough reason - Laserdisks bombed (at least, in America), despite their sharper pictures.

Convince me, please! - Jeannie


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Claire

13-07-00, 09:35 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: New Swan Lake on DVD"
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   One thing I like is that you can skip to your favourite bit because they have chapters that you can go to. You do not have to wind forwards of backwards.

As for being able to record onto them, I do not know, but if technology has advanced enough to be able record sound onto mini-discs then surely it can't be too long until you can record onto normal discs and DVD discs (if there is any difference).

You sometimes get more on a DVD then on a video. One film I bought had all the awards that it had won, where it had been filmed, and titles of music used.


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Jane N

13-07-00, 11:05 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: New Swan Lake on DVD"
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   Jeannie: Whilst no-one can guarantee that any new technological system will last long before being overtaken by newer developments (remember Betamax - a much better, more sophisticated video system than VHS, but didn't sell as well in America), hopefully DVD will last a bit longer than LaserDisks, if for no other reason than they are being developed by bigger companies than Phillips. DVD could be regarded as standing in the same relationship to video tapes as CD's did to audio cassettes. When CD's were first brought out, people said they were too expensive (they still are in Britain in my opinion), the CD players cost a fortune, and you couldn't record on them - why should we give up our audio cassettes just because of an increase in quality? Now, however, the industry has responded to customer demands, and developed CDR machines for the domestic market as well as the professional one, and lots of people have relegated audio cassettes to the car, if they use them at all. With any luck, DVD's will become cheaper, and more widely available, as they are a much more stable medium, and less prone to mechanical damage.


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eugene Merrett

14-07-00, 01:30 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: New Swan Lake on DVD"
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   I think DVD has a future. Whenever new hardware is introduced it often start slow because there is no software. It is a vicious circle no software meand no-one buys the hardware and hence no software issued. But once there is "critical mass" of software then sales really take off. I think we are see this in DVD right now especially in the US.

Almost all new movies in the US are issued on DVD before video. I remember hunting down a copy of that marvelous film "The Election" with Reese Witherspoon on video - only to find it it was available only on DVD in the USA. It finally came out on DVD much later. "Saving Private Ryan" was also released on DVD in the USA before video.

I am also told that the sound is SUPERIOR to CDS (even video DVDs) and that DVD are bacwardly compatable.

Also in comparison to Laser disc - DVD players are less the 200 ($300). Laser disc players were never that cheap. Also films are no more expensive then vidoes - in contrast to laser disc that were twice as expensive and were no where near as long.

The only draw back is that it cannot record like videos can. i do not think that is a problem. There has been a shift to buying films outright as oppose to rent. Besides LPs co-existed with recordable tapes for ages until Cds came along.

Ironically DVD are cheaper then CDS. A two disc CD of Swan Lake will set you back 30 (most recordings are 2 CDs now just). The opera Tristan and Isolde will set you back 60. However the DVD equivalent is 25 and 30 respectively. You are paying less for much more.

So hence I am looking to buy a multi-region CD.


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Jeannie

14-07-00, 06:47 PM (GMT)
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9. "RE: New Swan Lake on DVD"
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   Thanks for the thoughts & answers to my questions. Many good points. I thought of another one: storage (DVDs are smaller tha videotapes, taking up less storage-space on your shelves).

I'm not sure that I'm prepared to make the plunge into DVD just yet. The incapacity to record is too much of a negative. And one can hook-up only so many machines to one's television set! I'm not prepared to make my den look like a Radio Shack outlet just yet. - Jeannie


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Jane N

14-07-00, 10:10 PM (GMT)
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10. "RE: New Swan Lake on DVD"
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   Hopefully, demand will force the manufacturers to market DVDR machines quicker than it took them to market CDRs. Obviously, there are no technical reasons preventing them, just the will to make it available. I know there are copyright arguments for trying to restrict copying facilities, but the floodgates on that front are already open.


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