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Bruce Madmin

14-03-00, 09:45 AM (GMT)
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"Next Mini-poll"
 
   The next Mini-poll is "What is the first thing that Ross Stretton should concentrate on when he takes over at the Royal Ballet?"

Well that's the plan.. but first we need some possible answers! Help please, remembering the format of the Mini-poll and that answers need to be short and sharp. Thanks in anticipation...


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Next Mini-poll Fuzzyface 14-03-00 1
     RE: Next Mini-poll russell 14-03-00 2
         RE: Next Mini-poll Caitlyn 15-03-00 3
             RE: Next Mini-poll Eugene 15-03-00 4
                 RE: Next Mini-poll grace 15-03-00 5
  RE: Next Mini-poll Bruce Madmin 15-03-00 6
     RE: Next Mini-poll Michael 15-03-00 7
         RE: Next Mini-poll Bruce Madmin 15-03-00 8
             for Bruce grace 16-03-00 9
                 RE: for Bruce Bruce Madmin 16-03-00 10
                     RE: for Bruce Kate R 16-03-00 11
                         RE: for Bruce Carly Gillies 16-03-00 12
                             RE: for Bruce Carly Gillies 16-03-00 13
                             stretton quiz grace 16-03-00 14
                             RE: stretton quiz patricia 16-03-00 15
                             Ashton repertoire Eugene Merrett 16-03-00 16
                             RE: Ashton repertoire Fuzzyface 17-03-00 17
                             RE: Ashton repertoire Bruce Madmin 17-03-00 18
                             RE: Ashton repertoire grace 17-03-00 19
                             RE: Ashton repertoire Michael Montgomery 24-04-00 20
                             RE: Stretton Quiz Michael Montgomery 24-04-00 21

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Fuzzyface

14-03-00, 11:51 AM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Next Mini-poll"
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   Raising Standards.


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russell

14-03-00, 08:55 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: Next Mini-poll"
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   use royal ballet dancers , cut down on guestdancers, give R.B dancers the premier roles to dance,copy P.O and give the young dancers i.e corps, first artists their chance to dance in front of the public several performances a year, to improve their confidence and give the audience a chance to know them.


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Caitlyn

15-03-00, 09:19 AM (GMT)
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3. "RE: Next Mini-poll"
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   Interesting that you want less guest artists appearing with the RB. I always wished Ross would get more guest artists to dance with the Australian Ballet! You might get your request for the RB granted!


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Eugene

15-03-00, 10:53 AM (GMT)
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4. "RE: Next Mini-poll"
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   He must improve the technical standards which are significantly lowere then that of the ABT, NYCB, Kirov and the Paris Opera Ballet.

The programing must improve as well. He should consider bringing in proven new recent works by other companies.


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grace

15-03-00, 05:16 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: Next Mini-poll"
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   maybe i am being devil's advocate, but how about:

're-emphasize the english qualities of the ashton heritage'?


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Bruce Madmin

15-03-00, 05:50 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: Next Mini-poll"
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   Interesting exchanges and views etc from everybody, but can I ask that folks suggest the short and pithy answers we need. Mini-polls with answers a sentance long just don't work. Hope this does not appear ungrateful but Mini-polls are not always easy to get right and your constructive help is appreciated....


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Michael

15-03-00, 10:58 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: Next Mini-poll"
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   Gaining the confidence of everyone in the co., dancers, stagehands, costume folks, etc.


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Bruce Madmin

15-03-00, 11:34 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: Next Mini-poll"
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   why on earth do I bother!


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grace

16-03-00, 02:17 AM (GMT)
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9. "for Bruce"
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   OK Bruce, i'll try to save you some thinking

- raise standards,
- use home-grown talent more,
- gain company's confidence,
- re-assert the ashton heritage, OR
- re-assert 'englishness' (whatever that may be!)

disclaimer: these are not necessarily MY views; rather a paraphrasing of all the above. please paraphrase your own if you don't like how I'VE done it!


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Bruce Madmin

16-03-00, 08:16 AM (GMT)
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10. "RE: for Bruce"
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   Excellent - I do far too much thinking as it is!

Thanks Grace

Any more please? Do rabbit on if you wish, but the paraphrase is all important


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Kate R

16-03-00, 08:43 AM (GMT)
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11. "RE: for Bruce"
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   invite interesting guests

introduce more international comtemporary choreography

clear out dead wood


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Carly Gillies

16-03-00, 02:06 PM (GMT)
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12. "RE: for Bruce"
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   How about
1) Tour. I'm thinking of a sort of extended Dance Bites to the rest of the UK
2) Expand the repertoire with lots of his own choreography
3) NOT expand the repertoire as above
4) More live televised or filmed productions ( would this be up to him ?)


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Carly Gillies

16-03-00, 02:08 PM (GMT)
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13. "RE: for Bruce"
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   OK, so none of my suggestions really address " What's the FIRST thing he should do ?" - Sorry


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grace

16-03-00, 02:32 PM (GMT)
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14. "stretton quiz"
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   i know this isn't a discussion thread as such, but carly, i don't know that he's ever choreographed ANYTHING...could be wrong, but that's certainly NOT what he'll be there for! - or did i just miss the joke completely? (sorry!)


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patricia

16-03-00, 03:05 PM (GMT)
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15. "RE: stretton quiz"
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   earning trust!


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Eugene Merrett

16-03-00, 10:21 PM (GMT)
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16. "Ashton repertoire"
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   It is easy to say "more Ashton" . But according to a friend of mine who is a former dancer Ashton requires special training which makes one not suitable for Balanchine and other choreographers work. Specifically she told me that the turn out is less in Ashton works.

Moreover I think Ashton works look dated. They do not have the physical power which audience expect now. And it is intellectual rather middle Englandish. Enigma Variations is a good example of this

I always think of Ashton as the Terence Rattigan of ballet whilst MacMillan is the John Upstart...I mean John Osbourne of ballet.


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Fuzzyface

17-03-00, 12:20 PM (GMT)
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17. "RE: Ashton repertoire"
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   I find your statement bizarre. Ashton's choreography served the company well for over 50 years, and at a time when they were not just dancing the classics, but also Balanchine, MacMillan, Fokine, Massine, Cranko etc etc. His style or the "english" style did not impede the performances of other choreography, and it was the distinctive quality of this style that made the Royal Ballet different. I would far rather our dancers mastered our choreography and retained it's own distinct personality, than look like any other company you have seen.


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Bruce Madmin

17-03-00, 12:31 PM (GMT)
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18. "RE: Ashton repertoire"
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   This comes up from time to time and in different ways but it seems particulalry important now and I'm going to take these last 2 posts and open a new thread for hopefully wider debate....


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grace

17-03-00, 01:11 PM (GMT)
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19. "RE: Ashton repertoire"
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   since i am the one who brought up the suggestion "re-assert the ashton heritage" OR "re-assert 'englishness' (whatever that may be)" in POST number 9, as an abbreviation -as requested by bruce- of my original POST number 5, it frustrates me that this has been taken to mean MORE ashton.

of course, this is why no-one wanted to ABBREVIATE, bruce!

i didn't mean MORE, i meant BETTER...or with more respect, i.e. give it more value, it's 'proper' place in english ballet, it's due regard.

sorry to go into this here bruce, especially when you've started a discussion thread on eugene & fuzzyface's 'take' on this issue - which wasn't what i meant. just had to be clear here, about what i DID mean. thanks!


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Michael Montgomery

24-04-00, 02:38 PM (GMT)
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20. "RE: Ashton repertoire"
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   Oh come on guys, I can see how an Australian will be good for you. Poor Bruce is trying to get a few questions together here and you've all gone way off target(but I do agree a re-evaluation of English style is warranted).

How about:
Should Stretton work for a smooth transition, continuing the tradition, or, create a new vision, a new beginning for the RB?

Which choreographers should he choose in the event of Resident Choreographer positions being re-established?

Do you think it more important for Stretton to build an internationally representative repertoire, or focus on developing new British creations?

Who should he promote in the company?

Should the RB widen it's scope in performance venues and where would you recommend the company be seen?

What would be your reaction to the appointment of an Australian Principal dancer - Negative/Indifferent/Positive?


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Michael Montgomery

24-04-00, 02:45 PM (GMT)
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21. "RE: Stretton Quiz"
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   Thought of some more -
Which ballets would you recommend for him to introduce into the repertoire?

Do you think Strettons policy of performance diversification suitable for the RB?


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