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Bruce Madmin

09-01-00, 09:05 AM (GMT)
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"POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
 
   The "Guillem and POB news" thread was getting very long - our longest ever thread in fact - and to make things more manageable I've started-up this new thread to cover all the same type of things.

It would be really nice if somebody could get us going with some more POB thoughts or news... thank you.


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  RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 09-01-00 2
     RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Bruce Madmin 09-01-00 3
     RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Kate R 09-01-00 4
         RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 09-01-00 5
             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Sachiko 10-01-00 8
                 RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 10-01-00 10
                 RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Marie 12-01-00 19
                     RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 12-01-00 21
         RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 09-01-00 6
             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) eugene merrett 10-01-00 7
                 RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 10-01-00 9
                     RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) eugene 10-01-00 12
                         RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 11-01-00 14
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Hiromi M 11-01-00 15
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 11-01-00 16
             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Kate R 10-01-00 11
                 RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Kevin Ng 10-01-00 13
                     RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Eleonore 12-01-00 22
                         RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 12-01-00 23
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Eleonore 12-01-00 24
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Marie 12-01-00 25
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Eleonore 12-01-00 26
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Marie 12-01-00 27
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Eleonore 12-01-00 28
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Marie 12-01-00 29
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 13-01-00 30
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Eleonore 13-01-00 31
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 13-01-00 33
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Thérésa 13-01-00 46
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 13-01-00 48
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Eleonore 13-01-00 49
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Kevin Ng 13-01-00 50
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 13-01-00 51
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Marie 13-01-00 52
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Kevin Ng 14-01-00 53
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Estelle Souche 14-01-00 54
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 14-01-00 55
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 13-01-00 34
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Eleonore 13-01-00 35
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Marie 13-01-00 36
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 13-01-00 38
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 13-01-00 37
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Eleonore 13-01-00 39
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 13-01-00 42
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Eleonore 13-01-00 47
                             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 13-01-00 32
     RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 12-01-00 20
     RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Thérésa 13-01-00 44
  RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) alexis 11-01-00 17
     RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 12-01-00 18
         RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Sachiko 13-01-00 40
             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Eleonore 13-01-00 41
             RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Catherine 13-01-00 43
                 RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Eleonore 13-01-00 45
  RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues) Bruce Madmin 14-01-00 56

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Catherine

09-01-00, 01:35 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Hello,

I'm sorry Bruce to write in french but my english is not very good. It's for that I'm writing in french especially when it's a long critic of the performance.
I can resume for the english readers, Dupont was the best Aurore I never saw since 15 years I go at Ballet. Gaida is lovely too. she has not a great technic, but she is Aurore in her play. We have a new Etoile called Jean-Guillaume Bart. He is no parent with Patrice Bart. He's just 27 years old. And he danced Raymonda, Swan Lake, Don Quichotte, Histoire de Manon (Mc Millan), Nutcracker (Neumeier Version) and many Balanchine and Robbins, He must dance Solor when Opera will come in Stalton I hope I can go to see him.
I like the dance of Guillem but I don't like Guillem personnality I don't understand why she change the chorergaphy she's able to dance the Noureev version of all his ballets and every time she makes her choregraphy. I think she could have "respect" of Noureev memory and respect" for his partner especially for the corps de ballet.

Catherine


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Bruce Madmin

09-01-00, 02:39 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Catherine

Thank you for the synopsis in English - much appreciated. But do feel free to post in French when you want - certainly gives some of us a great challenge for a while(!), but the most important thing is to exchange views in whatever way is best.

Re Guillem and changing choreography... I think she is actually something of a choreographer/producer - at least of the classics. Is it this summer that FNB are visiting Paris with her Giselle? Hopefully then you will get an opportunity to see what she can do when totally left to her own devices. I thought it very good.

When dancing becomes less important to her I think it will be amazing to see this choreographic side open up. As an Artistic Director, with the emphasis on the artistic, she could do incredibly well since she loves the classics and modern work and has the ability to bring audiences with her.

Perhaps it is sad that Sylvie does it her way and no other. But the reality is that audiences flock to her performances because she brings something very special to them. It is hard to argue with her success.

Bruce


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Kate R

09-01-00, 04:27 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Any news and views from Paris is interesting. Thank you for taking the trouble Catherine.

I know that I have asked before, but is there any published casting for the Petit programme? I have to send for tickets soon and it would be nice to be able to chose the casts.


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Catherine

09-01-00, 06:15 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Hi

I think Guillem could change a complete choregraphy. It's not a problem but when you come in Invité in a troupe, you must have respect and make the oreginal choregraphy of the production. I think Guillem is one of the best dancer of the century but it's not normal for the french ballerinas. People come to see Guillem. Media says Guillem is the best dancer of the world, they don't see the other. it's true she's unbelievable by moments, but our dancer are very good. I think a dancer as Aurélie Dupont was very good in Sleeping Beauty. And nobody aplause when she keeps equilibre or make a great adage à la rose without technical problem at all. It's fine that a dancer interess people to dance, but I think Guillem could be greatest if she respected completely the ballet. It's deceiving to say she's really good but could she make the good choreography. I'd like to see her Giselle, I'm not at all agaisnt the new production. But I'm against her own production in a living production.
I'd like to compare her completely with the other and I'd like to say she's really the greatest because she makes the same things as the others but better. It's the Guillem problem. In Manon she doesn't make her own choregraphy it's just in all the Nureyev productions as Swan Lake, Romeo and Juliette or Don Quichotte. She doesn't change Bejart choregraphy of Bolero and she's good in this ballet. Hilaire is perhaps injuried and will perhaps dance the 11 but it's not certain and I can't know which dancer removes him. Legris ? Martinez ? or perhaps Hilaire will be dance.

Catherine


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Sachiko

10-01-00, 02:53 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Catherine, thanks for your news. Have you enjoy the gala?

So sad to hear about Hilaire's injury. I heard that Le Riche got injured but replaced by dashing Hilaire (both covered for ailing Cope last summer -autumn ). I do hope Guillem would not step down on 11th. This season's Sleeping Beauty seems to have seen unusual number of cast changes already. Surely Martinez should be back in Paris this week, if Legris declines. I just checked that Cope is engaged for Gloria on 12th. It'd be an intriguing bet if I had not the ticket... Hope both Hilaire & Le Riche, who is to dance in London next month, will recover soon.

I'm happy for Jean-Guillaume Bart's promotion. He was a handsome prince in Swan, replacing Legris. Will he be on the candidate list??


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Catherine

10-01-00, 03:07 PM (GMT)
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10. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Sachiko

I enjoyed by the gala especially by Grand pas classique with Aurélie Dupont and Jean-Guillaume Bart he was again premier danseur this evening. But he danced as an etoile who he became three days after. I think he can become the best dancer of the Opera before Legris or Martinez in this style of Dancer I don't like really the Hilaire and Le riche Dance, too strong, they well dance but we feel the "effort". With Legris, Martinez or Bart all seems very easy.
Romeo and Juliette by Lifar was too fine as Capriccio especially Marie-Agnès Gillot in second solist. Bolero deceive me. I don't see Guillem when boys begin to dance. I look at them and not on the table. And I'm deceiving that all the étoiles don't salute at the end of performance. It was a gala even it was the 31th december for public too it's 31th december.
Tonight it's the first Maurin/Legris.
Catherine


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Marie

12-01-00, 00:20 AM (GMT)
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19. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Hello everybody

I've just come back from the last Sleeping Beauty of Guillem and , again there was a surprise:Guillem didn't dance.It was said that she had "forte fièvre"(fever) this afternoon.I think that in fact Hilaire was injured and that she didn't want to dance with Legris.Anyway , if I had known it before I wouldn't have bought a ticket.
E.Abbagnato danced "L'oiseau bleu" with B.Pech.Delphine Moussin was much better in this role, she had more "assurance".I find Abbagnato too thin and skinny ; her mouth is too big .
Pour les grandes productions classiques on ne voit que des ballets de Noureev.C'est dommage qu'il n'y ait aucune diversité , que Lifar par exemple soit oublié.Il s'agit peut-etre d'une question de gros sous.
Dommage également de ne pas avoir plus souvent de soirées 'Jeunes danseurs".
J'ai l'impression que du coté de la direction de la danse en ce qui concerne les danseurs masculins , la mode est en ce moment aux danseurs toniques ,quasi athlétiques mais pas forcément élégants.


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Catherine

12-01-00, 10:58 AM (GMT)
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21. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Marie,


Jean-Guillaume BArt est exactement ce que vous souhaitez c'est à dire un danseur élégant.
Abbagnato était totalement insignifiante, et pas superbement bonne techniquement, la meilleure Florine était de loin Mélanie Hurel qui a dancé juste une fois avec Quilleré. et le meilleur oiseau bleu est naturellement Emmanuel Thibault qui lui vole réellement contrairement à Benjamin Pech ou Eric Quilleré quant à Laure Muret et Gil Isoart en chats ils sont excellents.

Je pense moi aussi que Guillem n'a pas voulu danser avec Legris. Elle avait refusé de danser avec Jean-Guillaume Bart la semaine dernière, ce qui était logique étant donné qu'il n'était que premier danseur et qu'on allait pas obliger Guillem à supporter une nomination d'étoile à ses côtés. Ce qui est ridicule. Mais on est star ou on ne l'est pas. Ceci étant comme je préfère de très loin Aurélie Dupont dans ce rôle, j'ai été ravie que ce soit elle qui remplace Guillem. J'ai aussi fortement apprecié l'annonce faite par le secrétaire de l'Opéra en personne annonçant que Guillem prise d'une forte grippe en milieu d'après-midi ne danserait pas et qu'on verrait le couple Dupont Legris vedettes de la première et qui étaient également la vedette de la retransmission télé.

Catherine


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Catherine

09-01-00, 06:21 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Hello


For the cast of Roland Petit, I don't know it. I know just that the first performance of Carmen will be Aurélie Dupont and Manuel Legris. I know that Marie-Agnès Gillot must dance Jeune Homme et la mort and perhaps Jéremie Bélingard a young sujet who must become I think one of next premier danseur even I don't like him. Gaida must make Jeune HOmme et la mort. Till I have information I put it on forum

Catherine


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7. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Some friends of mine in France made me a video of SB which was broadcasted recently in France. Currently I have sent it off to be converted to PAL. However the bits I saw in France were interesting. The sets are lavish but rather joyless. The emphasis on grandeur, realism then magical fairy tale ambience. It looked too much like one of those French historical movies. I found Nureyev choreography far to fussy and complex. It is too much of a parade ground manouvres then real dance. The worst bit was the use of two fairies to dance one of "characters" .
in the prolougue.

With apologies to our French fans, whilst I admired Dupont I am still enchanted with Durante (in her 1994 video performance) with her elfin feet and charming personality. Dupont is more a Princess whilst Durante is more a flirtatious young girl. Of course interpretations are soley a matter of opinion! Dupont's balances in the Rose Adagio are the best I have seen.

I should say that I have based this on a cursory glance of the video on French TV and a bit on British TV (but black and white because of the different video systems). When I have it converted and view it more carefully I am sure I will change my views.


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Catherine

10-01-00, 03:00 PM (GMT)
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9. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Hello,

I'm happy that you're enjoyed by Aurélie Dupont. Since I go to POB, I never saw a so perfect Aurore and her balance in Adage à la Rose is prodigious evene Guillem has not the same. But Guillem is Guillem and everybody will say it's wonderful the best dancer of the World is Guillem. Guillem is too cold. Aurélie is exactly a young princess and not just a young girl./ Guillem plays this rule as a silly girl not a princess. She 's too old and doesn't know play the young girl. For rule like Manon, Juliet or Odette/Odile she's good but not for Aurore. Even Fanny Gaida who is not technically perfect especially in Balance plays an young princess.
But I want to defend Nureyeev version. Perhaps we have two fairies in second variation but our dancer were so beautiful and so good than it's not important the complexity of choreography and I prefer her first Aurore's variation with simple ronds de jambes and doubles ronds de jambes at only simple ronds de jambes. And the dryad variation is very nice even it's very hard.

Catherine


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eugene

10-01-00, 04:36 PM (GMT)
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12. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   I have a god daughter in France whose is coming up to her 4th birthday. So quite soon I will take her to the POB.

Unfortunetly I do find so many productions of the POB very adult orientated. I am not sure Chloe (my god daughter) will be keen on Cinderella when it comes next month or so. Again I find the designs whilst stunning rather joyless. I do not see the purpose of the Fritz Lang / Metropolis inspired design. The POB Nutcracker is full of child pyschology which will completely baffle Chloe!

I think Nureyev is responsible for these unfortunate productions. He is a great dancer but I think that most of his productions for the POB are artistically misconceived and poorly choreographed. They are either pretentious (Nutcracker, Swan Lake) over- the top (Raymonda, Sleeping Beauty, Romeo and Julliet ) or rather joyless (Cindrillon, La Bayadere). I also think he has used the designers Enzio Figerio and Franco Squaricpino too much. There are too many similarities in the designs of the POB ballets especially in the colours.

I am sorry but I could go on and on about how the Nureyev ballets lack the dramatic power or brilliance of the great Macmillan/Ashton ballets. Nureyev's great contribution to the POB is to develope so many great dancers (Gulliem, Platel, Guerion etc) but I think he has damaged the company with his misconceived productions of the classics.


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Catherine

11-01-00, 10:37 AM (GMT)
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14. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Hello,

Ballets are not just for children. The child see what they must see just choreography, magnificents of Dress on stage. They can see the psychological view of Nureyev. Ballet are also for adults people. When you see His Sleeping Beauty, Bayadere or Raymonda, you don't see a psychological aspect. And for Cinderella it's an "hommage" to Movie. the Metropolis city is not see by Child but I find this version interesting. Evidently it was not the fairy tale as Ashton version I loved too.
Ballet must be for all people each category see what he wants to see and I find his Swan Lake version much more interesting than the Burmeister which POB had before. Now it's completely unviewable. It's evident that a child can understand the Cinderella version but he see even a ballet with a fairy tale. Not the same, it's true. I think against Nureyev Choreography are too complicated. But when you see Mc Millan or Nureyev versions of Romeo and Juliet, they are interesting too. I prefer Nureyev because she's most full (it's more near the Shakespeare play) than Mc Millan but I like this last one.
Each age must see something of different in a ballet. Personnaly I don't like now the traditionnal production of all the great ballets. I will enjoy by technical aspect, dress or stage, but I will be deceive by a less of psychological. Dancer are not just technical machine they are player too. And I can say that at the Opera they love to dance Nureyev version because they offer to him a rule and not just a variation. When they don't like it's for technical aspect not psychological.
I agree against Nureyev was not a great choreographer, but he makes the POB name and it's really important for us. Since his death, the Corps de ballet dance's level felt. The dancer are always good but the corps de ballet has no "style". And they prefer promote heavy dancer without style as Belingard, Saiz than the other which has style.

Catherine
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Hiromi M

11-01-00, 11:16 AM (GMT)
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15. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Quite interesting thoughts exchange about Nureyev's productions.

I think now is the turning point of qualities of Nureyev's Ballets even if within POB. I feel his production are great if Legris, Hilaire, Platel etc.,who recieved direct teach from Nureyev,dance but I feel little bit lack when younger dancers take part in his production.

Also, I think Paris Opera Ballet would like to seek their core of ballet style in Nureyev's ballet style.

Luckily, I will see a gala called 'Tribute to Rudolf Nureyev' performed by Legris, Ledieres and other POB dancers in TOKYO end of this month, so I would like to feel something in their dance directly.

I am so appreciated to hear some direct impressions from somebody are close to POB here.

Nureyev is my GOD of ballet. I have my point shoe autographed by himself. I never forgot his greatness and his warm smile !

thank you Catherine, your posting is very impressive for me !

Hiromi


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Catherine

11-01-00, 04:16 PM (GMT)
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16. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Hiromi,

I agree with you when you say that the "older" dancer of POB have the Nureyev style but they can learn it to the young generation of dancer like Aurélier Dupont, even Guillem has the Nureyev style if she wants. I thnik somebody as Patirce bart who is Ballet Master and learnt with Nureyev can pass the Nureyev style but he doesn't care of it. It's for that the young coprs de ballet have no style.
You're lucky to see the programm Loudières/Legris and their friends. Do you thnik they can be film by a japanese chanel. I'm very intersting by it if they make that. I had the programm they give four years ago with Palais de Cristal, Bayadère and Raymonds highlights, Dame aux Camélias, Who Cares, Thème et variations... I have the two complete programs. If you had something about their last passage before this time I'm intersting too.

Catherine


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Kate R

10-01-00, 04:16 PM (GMT)
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11. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   I look forward to hearing the casting when it is out.


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Kevin Ng

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13. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Sylvie Guillem was splendid as Aurora in last Friday's performance at Opera Bastille by POB, superbly partnered by Laurent Hilaire who replaced the injured Nicolas Le Riche. The new sets and costumes in this 1997 production of Nureyev's Sleeping Beauty are magnificent. I have to be brief, as I am in an internet cafe.


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Eleonore

12-01-00, 04:08 PM (GMT)
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22. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   I saw Guillem in Sleeping Beauty last tuesday and thought she was absolutely wonderful. Radiance, light and that unique stage presence.
I cannot understand why she gets so much criticism.
Aurélie Dupont, whom I only saw on TV, was a beautiful Aurora, especially in the first act (very secured balance).
I was very disappointed with the corps de ballet. I do not know whether they were tired or if the level is going down but I did see them bump into each other a few times and they were out of sync in many occasions. I remember a Swan Lake a few years ago when an outstanding corps with a wonderful poetic quality got more applause than the principals, which certainly was not the case last week.


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Catherine

12-01-00, 05:25 PM (GMT)
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23. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Hello,

I'm agree with you Opera Corps de Ballet Level fall down since few years ago. It's a Soloist corps de ballet, not a true corps de ballet, they are not together.
Nureyev was perfect for the Corps de Ballet "aura"

Catherine


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Eleonore

12-01-00, 05:52 PM (GMT)
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24. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   What is happening with Ghislaine Fallou? She does not seem to be dancing anymore. She was promoted a première danseuse at the same time as Aurélie Dupont (she was even first of her class at the annual "concours", ahead of Dupont if I remember correctly) but she has not done so well. It is a pity because she is a very musical dancer and there high expectations for her when she joined the company.


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Marie

12-01-00, 06:44 PM (GMT)
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25. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   As far as I know , Ghislaine Fallou has personal problems.I've heard that her mother has always followed her and now that she is separated from her ,Fallou has a sort of depression .it seems that she has mental disorders that make her eat too much so that she is too fat to dance.I don't know if my informations are just but that's what I've heard.
I think like you that's it's a real pity because Fallou is a rare dancer with a lot of musicality.She is the quintessence of the french ballerina.(like Chauviré or Thesmar)When we think that Dupont has become étoile and that Osta has become première danseuse it's quite raging.Let's hope she will recover.This type of thing often happens to surdoués , précoces.


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12-01-00, 06:54 PM (GMT)
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26. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Let's hope she recovers.
Who do you think will be promoted premier(e) / danseur (seuse)at the next promotion "concours"?


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Marie

12-01-00, 07:53 PM (GMT)
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27. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   there are 2 places of premiers danseurs:I think that jérémie Bélingard and Yann Saiz are the favorites(Saiz danced in the act 3 of Sleeping Beauty the variation des pierres précieuses with gillot and Bélingard will probably dance Le jeune homme et la Mort by R.Petit:both are big roles) For the women I don't see who will be promoted première danseuse since none of the sujets have been given a particularly big role.(perhaps Miteki Kudo ,Nolwenn Daniel ,Mélanie Hurel or Laetitia Pujol-I really don't know).Perhaps they will not promote anybody.And you , what do you think?You seem to well know the POB:are you a friend of a POB's dancer and do you live in Paris?


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12-01-00, 08:12 PM (GMT)
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28. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Yes I do live in Paris but also spend a lot of time in London. I do not know any dancer personally but I have been going to the ballet for many years although I am by no means an expert.
I believe the class of "sujets" is not as strong as it used to be or to say things differently they are all good dancers but none strikes me as a future "étoile". But it is also true that I have not seen that many ballets lately (apart from Sleeping Beauty last week) and may not be up to speed on the qualities of such or such dancer as I have not seen them in their more recent roles. plus I you pointed out,I do not think that any of the girls has been cast in a major part lately. I can think of Hurel and Kudo in the Nutcracker but that is not very recent and they were OK but not outstanding. I hear positive things about Daniel and Romberg but do not know them that well. Pujol has a good technique but I do not really see her in the major parts of the "répertoire". Baey is a bit "horsey" (chevaline). I am even more at a loss with the boys. I was always very impressed with Thibault, especially in "l'oiseau bleu" but I think the quality of his performances are uneven plus he is a bit small. Saiz? I do not know him that well.


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Marie

12-01-00, 08:43 PM (GMT)
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29. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   There is a young quadrille (21?) called Nicolas Paul that I have remarked.He has fine silhouette and figure.He would be perfect in the roles of princes.He has a sort of purity and poetry in his dance.I hope he will become coryphée at the next annual concours but the POB seems to prefer "heavy" dancers.


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13-01-00, 12:06 PM (GMT)
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30. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Bonjour,

Je pense qu'effectivement Bélingard a toutes ses chances en tant que premier danseur même si je n'aime pas du tout son style, il est lourd. Quant à Saiz cela fait trois ans qu'ils essayent de le faire passer, je ne sais pas s'ils vont y arriver je ne l'aime pas non plus, il n'a aucun style et sa technique est loin d'être parfaite.
Je préfère des danseurs comme Phavorin même s'il a un physique difficile ou Duquenne. Chez les filles Hurel n'est pas encore sujet, elle ne risque donc pas de passer première danseuse. Il n'y aura pas forcément de postes de première danseuse à moins qu'ils estiment que Riqué qui est relativement atteinte ne revienne pas et qu'il libère un poste mais je ne vois absolument pas qui peut avoir la place, des filles comme Daniel, Baey, Romberg sont biens mais sans plus. Il y a evidemment Miteki Kudo qui est parfaite et qui mériterait ce titre. Quant à Pujol, elle ne peut absolument pas tout danser, elle est très forte technicienne mais elle a un problème de physique à mon sens trop petite et visage trop enfantin.
J'espère que Nicolas Paul pourra devenir choryphée mais vous savez que les magouilles à l'Opéra sont de mises et qu'ils ont certainement d'autres préférences comme Gaudion par exemple, ceci étant ce dernier danse très bien malgré un physique quelque peu difficile.

Catherine


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Eleonore

13-01-00, 12:21 PM (GMT)
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31. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Alors pas de futures étoiles dans la jeune generation? Même Gillot, probablement et de loin la mieux des premieres danseuses, sujets, coryphées n'est pas completement convaincante.
Est-ce qu'Hurel que j'avais promue un peu vite passera sujet? et Abbagnato?
J'aime bien Kudo mais je ne suis pas sure que ce soit une etoile en puissance.
What do you think?


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Catherine

13-01-00, 12:29 PM (GMT)
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33. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Re-bonjour,

Je pense que Marie-Agnès Gillot deviendra étoile. Elle a tout pour ça technicité, artistique, personnalité forte. Abbagnato n'est pas extraordinaire, elle est très poussée mais je pense qu'elle ne mérite aucunement d'être étoile elle deviendra sujet c'est évident, mais Ciaravola, Hurel, Legassy méritent autant ce poste qu'elle. Chez les jeunes suivez Emilie Cozette, elle peut devenir une très grande, on ne voit qu'elle dans le corps de ballet ainsi que Marie-Solène Boulet. Je me demande ce que peut faire Hervé Moreau chez les garçons, il est très prometteur et il appartient au bon groupe celui des amis de LEgris qui fait un peu la pluie et le beau temps à l'Opéra. Que pensez vous des sujets comme Phavorin, Duquenne, Saiz, Thibault pou Courtain

Catherine


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Thérésa

13-01-00, 06:37 PM (GMT)
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46. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   (Je vous ai déjà écrit par ailleurs, mais ceci pour parler de la "jeune génération"...) Je voulais voir Marie-Solène Boulet lors du Passeport du 8 janvier, mais, arrivée à 14h30, je n'ai pu voir que l'ouvreur à lunettes, qui nous informaient que la salle était déjà pleine depuis 14h00. Y étiez-vous ? Il y avait également ce Nicolas Paul dont vous et Marie aviez parlé.

Quand Emilie Cozette doit-elle tenir les rôles que vous avez cités ? Je vais voir Clairemarie Osta ce samedi par curiosité, puis sans doute Agnès Letestu la semaine prochaine.

C'est drôle, à propos de Yann Saïz : lors des deux représentations récentes, le 7 et le 11, je me suis trouvée en train de dire, "Mais qui est ce danseur et pourquoi le laisse-t-on sur scène ?" Les deux fois, c'était Saïz !


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Catherine

13-01-00, 07:58 PM (GMT)
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48. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Teresa,

Claire-Marie Osta ne danse plus samedi en matinée c'est Maurin qui doit danser avec Pech quant à Cozette je pense qu'elle doit faire la 6e fée ce week end soit samedi ou dimanche en matinée tout comme Marie-Solène Bouler. Je n'ai pas vu le passeport par contre, il paraît m'a dit une amie que Nicolas Paul était superbe notamment dans son ébauche de méditation.
Pour Eleonore, effectivement Averty avait un visage enfantin mais quand on voit ce qu'elle pouvait quand même faire. Dans son lac,il faut dire que Prince était en dessous de tout, J'avais trouvé Karin très bien à l'époque. J'aimais vraiment beaucoup cette danseuse. Je trouve de toute façon stupide de critiquer un danseur ou une danseuse parce qu'il a une "sale gueule", si le danseur a des qualités cela ne doit pas arrêter sa progression. Karin aurait fait très certainement une superbe étoile à l'époque maintenant elle est quelque peu ridicule avec son côté, moi la pauvre étoile sans titre.

Catherine


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Eleonore

13-01-00, 08:11 PM (GMT)
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49. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   C'est vrai que Prince ce n'etait pas ca. Averty n'a certainement pas une sale gueule. Elle est ravissante mais elle ne s'imposait pas en scene dans certaines roles sauf Kitri dont je garde un excellent souvenir


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Kevin Ng

13-01-00, 08:29 PM (GMT)
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50. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Catherine,
Dans quel role Nicolas Paul a t-il danse dans "La Belle au Bois Dormant"? J'etais au spectacle le 7 Janvier avec Guillem et Hilaire, mais je n'ai pas vu le nom de Paul dans le programme le soir.
Kevin


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Catherine

13-01-00, 09:07 PM (GMT)
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51. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Nicolas Paul effectivement n'est pas sur la troupe de la Belle au bois Dormant, par contrre c'est lui qui faisait la démonstration présentée par E. Platel samedi après-midi, théoriquement il doit faire partie de la troupe de Casanova qui commence le 25 janvier à Garnier


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13-01-00, 09:07 PM (GMT)
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52. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Bonjour Thérésa

J'ai réussi à assister au Passeport du 8 janvier ,et pourtant , je ne suis pas arrivée plus tot que vous.Quand l'ouvreur a annoncé que la salle était pleine ,je me suis avancée vers l'entrée et j'ai attendu.Les gens étaient extremement mécontents et se bousculaient de tous les cotés.Constatant que ce brouhaha allait rapidement tourner à l'émeute, l'ouvreur en chef a décidé "d'accepter encore 50 personnes".Arrivée dans la salle , il m'a semblé qu'il restait pas mal de places et surtout on pouvait se mettre debout.
En ce qui concerne le Passeport , c'est Elisabeth Platel qui donné son cours d' interprétation.C'est la première fois que je vois M_S.Boulet.Elle est fine et longiligne , elle ressemble légèrement à S.Guillem.Elle m'a semblé bien avec juste quelques difficultés dans le pdd du 3è acte(elle n'arrivait pas à garder sa jambe levée en 1ère position , elle "pivotait")Il faut dire qu'Elisabeth Platel était très exigeante .Quant à Nicolas Paul , je l'ai trouvé changé:il m'a l'air d'avoir pris du poids ou bien est-ce du muscle.Il a l'air d'etre moins aérien qu'avant.On a l'impression qu'il y a moins de juvénilité et d'innocence ,plus de réalisme:il a sans doute eu des moments difficiles ces derniers temps.Je me demande si on force les danseurs de l'Opéra à faire de la musculation ou à prendre des hormones males ou d'autres produits qui développent la musculature.Je ne voudrais pas que Nicolas Paul ressemble à Jérémie Bélingard!A chaque physionomie correspond un style.Ce n'est pas parceque l'Opéra privilégie en ce moment les "danseurs-gorilles"(!) qu'il faut que ceux qui ne le sont pas le deviennent!
En ce qui concerne Saiz , je suis d'accord avec vous.Il n'est pas terrible.Ses gestes sont trop brusques ,l'"atterissage" de ses sauts n'est pas précis.
Je trouve Emilie Coette convaincante.


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14-01-00, 10:31 AM (GMT)
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53. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Yann Saiz etait merveilleux le vendredi dernier dans le pas de cinq dans Act 3 de "La Belle au Bois Dormant".


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Estelle Souche

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54. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   It's nice to see a thread about the Paris Opera Ballet (Kevin, thanks for telling me about it!)

I am French too, but haven't seen the company as often as most of the people involved in this thread, since I don't live in Paris (I saw only a few performances each season, since 1993).

I was very glad to hear that Jean-Guillaume Bart had been chosen as an "etoile". I had enjoyed his "Swan Lake" in september, he is a nice and elegant dancer, and also seems to be a good partner. I also hope that he will choreograph new works, his pas de deux for the "Danseurs- Choregraphes" program last summer were interesting.

Much has been said about the company's dancers, but I think it would also be interesting to talk about its repertory. What do you think of it? And for example, what do you think of all the recent new works created for the company?

I found some of them quite disappointing: for example, Darde's "Orison", Duboc's "Rhapsody in Blue" or Montalvo's "Le rire de la lyre" (and also Preljocaj's "Le Parc")... The dancers did their best, but for me those choreographies were really weak, and unsuited to a real ballet company. Kelemenis' "Reversibilite" was not classical either, but I found it better structured and more interesting. Forsythe's works were quite thrilling, I hope that the company will dance it again in the next seasons! I haven't seen Petit's "Clavigo", Preljocaj's "Casanova" nor Carlson's "Signes".

For me, it's frustrating to see only one work of Balanchine this season... I really hope that they'll program works such as "The Four Temperaments", "Palais de Cristal" or "Theme and Variations" soon, or also works such as "Divertimento n.15" or "Le tombeau de Couperin", which are in the repertory but haven't been danced for a long while. The "Balanchine/ Tchaikovsky" and "Balanchine/ Stravinsky" a few seasons ago were so lovely, I'd be glad to see them again.

Also in this season the 20th-century repertory isn't very present (except the Petit program), it includes almost only Nureyev's full-length ballets
and contemporary works (Montalvo, Kelemenis, Ek, Preljocaj, Naharin, Carlson...) What about Tudor,
Lifar, Nijinska, Fokine, Massine, Ashton? It has become almost impossible to see some works of these choreographers in France outside the POB,
and I think it is the company's duty to preserve such ballets.


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Catherine

14-01-00, 01:14 PM (GMT)
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55. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Je ne vois vraiment pas comment on peut trouver Saiz merveilleux, il n'a aucun style bpouge ses bras dans tous les sens a des pieds immondes dont les pointes ne sont pas tendus, il n'a pas de ballon. regardez JEan-Guillaume BArt dans la vidéo ça c'est un danseur.


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13-01-00, 12:37 PM (GMT)
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34. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Vous savez parfois la place de premier danseur est un aboutissement final et non un tremplin vers le titre d'étoile, Delanoé, Quilleré, Romoli, Riqué, Averty, Fallou, Moussin, ne deviendront jamais étoiles et ne le seraient jamais devenus sauf peut-être Karin Averty si la direction de la Danse avait été avec elle. Elle avait tout pour être étoile, capable d'interprêter tous les grands classiques et danser le répertoire contemporain et néo-classique. Osta et Bridard ne devraient à mon avis pas passer étoile non plus. Pour Miteki ce serait une consécration de toute façon, elle le mériterait amplement. De tout efaçon ils peuvent ne pas mettre de poste de première danseuse cette année pour mieux faire passer une Abbagnato l'année prochaine même si elle ne le mérite absolument pas à mon avis.

Catherine


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Eleonore

13-01-00, 12:58 PM (GMT)
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35. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Dans une logique "baton de marechal" pourquoi pas Kudo qui a de vraies qualites artistiques meme si je trouve dommage de nommer des premiers danseurs dont on sait qu'ils ne seront jamais etoiles.
Averty a clairement souffert de l'ere Noureev qui ne l'aimait pas et aussi peut-etre de la concurrence tres forte a l'epoque (Guillem, Guerin, Maurin etc)
Je vous trouve dure avec Abbagnato. Je ne connais Cozette que de nom meme si j'en entends du bien. Est-il prevu qu'elle danse des roles de solistes prochainement? meme question pour Nicolas Paul.
Chez les garcons je trouve Phavorin interessant et Thibault est le parfait oiseau bleu (comment fait-il pour faire des sauts sans bruit?)


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Marie

13-01-00, 02:54 PM (GMT)
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36. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Je pense effectivement qu'il y a une "affaire" Averty.Elle méritait amplement d'etre étoile.Seulement pour etre nommé étoile , il faut plaire , user de sa séduction , avoir des atomes crochus avec la direction de la danse.Ce ne sont pas ceux qui le méritent le plus qui sont nommés étoiles.Il faut avoir une certaine forme d'intelligence-ce que possède incontestablement Osta.C'est comme dans la vie , il faut connaitre des gens "bien placés".Pensez vous qu'il y ait un age limite au-dela duquel on n'a aucune chance d'etre nommé étoile?Il parait que Moussin était persauadée d'etre nommée étoile après ses Lac des cygnes en septembre.Savez-vous si le groupe créé par MC pietragalla ,"Les solistes de Paris" , existe toujours?A part Moreau ,Qui d'autre fait partie du groupe Loudières,Legris et leurs amis?
Il me semble tout de meme que personne ne deviendra première danseuse cette année.Je pense qu'ils garderont précieusement cette place pour d'autres années et d'autres talents.J'ai l'impression que l'Opéra préfère les "jeunes danseuses"-c'est sans doute improbable qu'ils nomment étoiles des danseuses qui ont dépassé la trentaine(ils ne referont sans doute pas la meme chose que P.Dupond qui a nommé Gaida et Arbo).
Savez-vous si l'Opéra a le droit de "licencier" un danseur?


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13-01-00, 04:00 PM (GMT)
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38. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Je suis pour les nominations d'étoiles jeunes, je trouve cela inintéressant le côté baton de maréchal et je préfère que des étoiles comme Aurélie Dupont, Guérin ou Guillem aient été nommées jeunes. Je trouve cela un peu navrant qu'on les nomme tard comme Arbo ou Gaïda, elles dansent fort bien mais c'est comme ça que Moussin ne passera certainement pas étoile. Aurélie était meilleure et pouvait faire beaucoup plus de chose, Delphine est un peu fragile techniquement même si artistiquement elle est très bien.


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Catherine

13-01-00, 03:46 PM (GMT)
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37. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Cozette doit danser théoriquement la 6e fée dans la Belle ainsi que la fée des Lilas. Elle devait également faire les pierres précieuses mais finalement c'est Aubin qui l'a remplacée auprès de Hervé Moreau.
Pour Nicolas Paul, je ne lui connais pas de rôle de soliste pour l'instant. Il doit faire partie par contre de Casanova.
Quant à Karin Averty, elle s'est accidentée au dos sur Sylvia, elle a chuté très lourdement sur le dos lors de l'avant dernier spectacle de Sylvia en mars 1999 à l'endroit même ou Moussin était tombée la veille également lors de leur arrivée sur scène. Elle a donc remplacé cette dernière le samedi après midi mais comme il était prévu que ce soit le soir son spectacle et qu'Averty est une danseuse médatique qui ne veut soi-disant pas contrarier son public, elle a tenu à assurer son spectacle alors que Marie-Agnès Gillot avait été convoqué d'urgence pour la remplacer. Elle a donc fait son spectacle le soir mais avec les conséquences qu'on connaît c'est à dire bientôt un an sans danser.
Elle est restée six mois sans rien faire du tout et doit recommencer la barre progressivement depuis un à deux mois.

Je ne suis pas dure avec Abbagnato, je la trouvais très bien quand elle est rentrée dans le corps de ballet mais à force de s'entendre dire qu'elle était bonne, elle a quelque peu pris la grosse tête et ne danse pas si bien que cela. Elle m'a énormément déçue lors des soirées jeunes danseurs où elle faisait le cygne noir et son oiseau bleu était inexistant. Quant à Marie dans Clavigo, elle dansait peut être bien mais je préfèrais de très loin Claire-Marie Osta. Il est prévue qu'elle fasse la Mort dans le Jeune homme et la Mort sans doute avec Bélingard. Moussin devrait aussi faire la mort apparemment tout comme Gaida.

Catherine


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Eleonore

13-01-00, 04:31 PM (GMT)
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39. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   La plupart des choregraphes invités recemment ont choisi Abbagnato (Petit,Bausch...). J'imagine qu'on ne leur a pas completement forcé la main.
Je ne suis pas sure qu'Averty meritait d'etre étoile, surtout comparé aux filles de sa generation. Cela dit, quand on voit qu'Arbo a ete nommee, on peut se poser des questions.
Allez-vous voir Cozette dans la 6e variation?


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Catherine

13-01-00, 06:06 PM (GMT)
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42. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Vous savez les chorégraphes invités contrairement à ce qu'on en pense ne choisisse pas, on leur impose une partie de la troupe et dans cette troupe ils choisissent ceux qu'ils veulent. Lefèvre leur indique qui il faut prendre. Certains danseurs n'hésitent pas à aller pleurer pour avoir des rôles. Abbagnato étant de plus la compagne de Bélingard qui est très bien en cour que ce soit auprès de Lefèvre ou auprès de Legris !
Je ne crois plus maintenant aux chorégraphes qui choisissent en toute innocence quand on connait un peu les danseurs.
Quant à Averty, vous ne l'avez sans doute pas vue en 1984-1985, c'était une superbe danseuse technique impeccable, qui pouvait tout faire. Elle a été sacrifiée. Elle est comme Guillem Grand prix de Varna et Prix d'excellence. Elle a gaché sa carrière elle aussi. Arbo était une bonne danseuse mais effectivement je n'aurais pas procéder à sa nomination même si à l'époque elle le méritait plus que Gaïda. Arbo pense plus à sa vie familiale maintenant. Elle a eu une petite fille l'année dernière et préfère s'en occuper, c'est dommage car c'était une danseuse que j'appréciais énormément


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Eleonore

13-01-00, 06:39 PM (GMT)
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47. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Si j'ai vu Averty dans les annnees 83-87: Henriette dans Raymonda, le lac avec Prince, les Kitri etc etc. Eelle avait effectivement une formidable technique (et de beaux equilibres) mais je maintiens qu'elle ne peut pas tout danser, elle avait en plus a l'epoque quelque chose de tres enfantin dans l'allure qui ne la rendait aps forcement credible. Son Lac n'etait pas bon alors qu'a l'epoque Guillem et Guerin avait tres bien reussi le leur. Elle etait en revanche parfaite dans Kitri.


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Catherine

13-01-00, 12:22 PM (GMT)
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32. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Marie,

J'aime beaucoup Fallou, effectivement elle est en pleine dépression mais elle est plutôt, anorexique que boulimique. C'est une artiste au noble sens du terme. J'aime beaucoup cette danseuse, mais je ne comprends pas qu'on puisse critiquer le fait qu'Aurélie Dupont soit étoile et pas Fallou. En effet, malgré toutes les qualités artistiques que possèdent Ghislaine, elle ne peut pas tout danser, c'est une ballerine, elle peut difficilement trouver sa place dans le répertoire contemporain ou néo-classique et j'aime beaucoup Ghislaine de toute façon. Je suis par contre totalement d'accord pour Claire-Marie Osta, si elle n'était pas Mme le Riche elle ne serait certainement pas première danseuses. Est-ce que Belarbi fait quelque chose pour Muret et pourtant voila une jolie danseuse poétique, artistique que j'admire énormément

Catherine


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Catherine

12-01-00, 10:41 AM (GMT)
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20. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Bonjour,

I want to speak about your new etoile. I said he was promoted at the issue of Sleeping Beauty but I want people know I thnik one of the best dancer of the Opera and perhaps in a few months, the best if he continues to dance like saturday.
Jean Guillaume BArt issued form School; Ballet dancing Master Ballet in Conservatoire, he became coryphée in 1989 or 1990, sujet in 1991 and premier danseur in 1996. Le riche and Martinez who are in the same promotion became etoile before him. But when he was younger he was often injuried. Now it's fine. He danced his first role in Nutcraker by Neumeier, he danced Dances at the Gathering too (blue boy rule). Since three years he danced Siegfried in Swan Lake, Jean de Brienne in Raymonda, Basilio and Espada in Don Quichotte, Des Grieux in Manon, he danced Desire in 1997 when he was just premier danseur. He dances also Le jeune homme in Neumeier's Sylvia. He will dance Cendrillon and Bayadère's Solor in England. He has a great technic so good than Legris which I compare always him.


Catherine


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Thérésa

13-01-00, 06:26 PM (GMT)
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44. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Catherine, tout d'abord, merci pour votre longue réponse à mon message d'il y a quelques semaines ! J'aurais voulu répondre plus tôt, mais le temps ne me l'a pas permis.

J'ai vu Sylvie Guillem pour la première fois (à part un documentaire il y a quelques années) le 7 janvier et je vois ce que vous voulez dire. Elle est vraiment saisissante sur scène mais compromet un peu l'intégrité du spectacle. Que choisir ? Ce qu'elle a fait dans sa variation du troisième acte était stupéfiant : tenir une salle en haleine avec une chose qui passe d'habitude pour une petite démonstration de féminité mignonne. Seulement, elle a effectivement dû manipuler la partition un peu (rubato dans tous les sens)...
En tout cas, je suis sortie de la salle le 7 avec une grande admiration pour cette femme qui, au lieu de reposer sur ses énormes facilités physiques, s'était donné la peine de construire ses variations avec autant de minutie.

Ma déception était donc d'autant plus grande le 11 lorsque j'ai entendu cet homme annoncer que, "victime d'une forte grippe", Mlle Guillem ne serait pas des nôtres. Ce n'est pas tellement que j'avais besoin de la revoir à tout prix (mes souvenirs étaient encore très vifs). J'avais lu dans l'après-midi vos différents messages où vous parliez de la blessure de Laurent Hilaire et je "savais" donc que cette grippe était une invention. La salle lui avait réservé un tel accueil le 7 (je n'avais jamais assisté à pareille folie collective), elle pouvait se douter de la déception que cela créerait. Cette attitude cavalière, plus que sa tendance à modifier la chorégraphie de ses illustres aînés, m'a déçue.

J'étais désolée pour Aurélie Dupont, qui a dû quand-même danser devant cette salle, qui ne se remettait pas de sa déception. (Combien de personnes ai-je entendu dire à l'entracte "C'est bien, mais on était venu exprès pour Sylvie Guillem). Savez-vous pourquoi on a fait appel à elle ? Elle n'avait pas dansé le rôle depuis plus de 10 jours et, à mon sens, est tout l'inverse de ce que recherche le public de Guillem.


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alexis

11-01-00, 08:53 PM (GMT)
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17. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Ce qui me frappe la plupart du temps quand je regarde ces magnifiques techniciens que sont les danseurs de l’Opéra de Paris c’est le manque de générosité, une froideur parfois à la limite de l’auto-satisfaction et un certain manque de coeur. J’aime voir des femmes et des hommes qui dansent et on a souvent l’impression que ces danseurs-là évoluent dans un milieu tellement clos qu’ils ont à peine conscience qu’il existe un monde chorégraphique, et à la limite un monde tout court, en dehors de l’opéra . On a envie de leur dire d’aller prendre l’air et de revenir enrichis d’autres expériences... On ne peut bien sûr pas faire de généralités et il y a heureusement des artistes qui font exception à cette règle... C’est un petit monde qui vu de l’extérieur paraît en tout cas assez amusant avec ses soucis de concours et autres promotions
Ceci étant dit je dois dire que j’ai eu beaucoup de plaisir à voir Aurélie Dupont dans le rôle d’Aurore. Elle me semble avoir une aisance technique stupéfiante et on ne peut que rêver pour elle d’une magnifique carrière. C’est en plus une artiste qui semble pouvoir tout danser et je suis impatient de suivre la suite de son parcours... Désolé de ne pouvoir écrire tout ça en anglais mais je voulais vous dire, Bruce, que la visite de votre site est une joie quotidienne. Merci et happy new year


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Catherine

12-01-00, 00:05 AM (GMT)
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18. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Hello,


Just a bad news Guillem doesn't dance Sleeping Beauty tonight. Opera said it's was influenza. I think it's more a partner's problem Hilaire was injuried friday night and she doesn't want dance with the other dancer of the Opera. It was Aurélie Dupont and Manuel Legris and she was wonderful even she knows the news just at 4 PM.

Alexis, je ne trouve pas les danseurs de l'Opéra froids, c'est peut-être leur répertoire et leur style qui donnent cette impression

Catherine


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Sachiko

13-01-00, 04:49 PM (GMT)
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40. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Well, I was naturally disappointed at the change on 11th, although not surprised that much, thanks to our Paris correspondents. Some people I talked with had heard of Hilaire's injury but expected Le Riches' return somehow.

Dupont seemed to be very nervous at Act I; a bit shaky in Rose Adagio and not spreading an aura of radiance as Bussell, for example (I do wonder how Guillem would be in the role). But of course, it's unfair to judge her under such circumstance. After all, the audience came speciffically to see Guillem that night. In a way her tension made her rather convincing as an innocent 16-year old maiden, no matter how the Princess Aurore should be or what lovely Dupont normally could do.
The star of the night was Legris. While the Lilac fairy doesn't dance at all in Nureyev's version, there were many dances for the Prince. It was almost a Prince's adventure into the fairy land, rather than a story of the Princess. I want to see Legris again in this production with a more experienced ballerina like Maurin or Guerin.

BTW, Maurin & Legris were supposed to dance on 10th (the previous night), weren't they? A guide at the theatre said Gaida & Bart had danced instead. I don't believe it was a coincidence that Legris was released. Perhaps it was only Dupont who was asked to dance on the very day. The managers must have (rightly) judged that it would take at least one star to save the disappointed audience from Guillem's absence. It couldn't have been the sudden flu then!!


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Eleonore

13-01-00, 04:57 PM (GMT)
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41. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   As you rightly mention, Dupont was probably nervous because she was really radiant in the video that I saw and certainly not shaky in the rose adagio. In fact she had the most secure balance I have seen in a long time.
Guillem was wonderful(talk about radiance)although I was not convinced by her partner Hilaire. Legris and Le Riche are much better in my opinion.


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Catherine

13-01-00, 06:13 PM (GMT)
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43. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Hello

Aurélie Dupont knew that she replaced Guillem just at 4 PM? she was not ready to dance instead of Guillem. But she makes a great performance. And if the beginning of Rose Adagio was a few "tremblante", she makes an end absolutely wonderful. Guillem was no better than her. And it's not because I prefer Aurelie. One of dancer says she was really good. She was not at her form top. She doesn't dance the rule since 15 days and you know a dancer who doesn't dance every day lost a few something.
They put Aurélie Dupont and Manuel Legris to replace Guillem because they were filmed by TV and it was "médiatique". I'm sure that Guillem wasn't ill but she didn't want to dance with Legris or an other etoile.
Legris was brilliant but I prefer Bart. The 10 it was Maurin with Legris I was at performance. Maurin is an Aurore but I don't like his entry.


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Eleonore

13-01-00, 06:32 PM (GMT)
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45. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
In response to message #43
 
   Guillem avait peut-etre vraiment la grippe comme la moitié de Paris et Helene Grimaud qui devait donner un recital de piano le meme soir at a annulé pour cause de grippe sans creer un tollé général (elle n'est pas vraiment malade, c'est un caprice de diva etc etc)
Quant a Dupont, c'etait le meilleur choix pour remplacer Guillem (mieux que Gaida, Osta et Maurin, sans nul doute):apres tout, elle a fait la premiere et la representation televisee, c'est donc "son" spectacle.
Je maintiens que Guillem etait formidable dans Aurore


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Bruce Madmin

14-01-00, 01:28 PM (GMT)
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56. "RE: POB II (Guillem and POB news continues)"
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   Such is the growth we now have a POB III thread. Can I ask people to post on that one now. Here is a link to it:

http://www.danze.co.uk/dcforum/happening/453.html


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