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Shirley

01-12-99, 08:24 PM (GMT)
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"Opening Celebration"
 
   Looks like ballet has come off worse again! Did the ROH completely changed the running order or was it BBC editing?


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Opening Celebration Bruce Madmin 01-12-99 1
     RE: Opening Celebration Hiromi M 01-12-99 2
         RE: Opening Celebration Shirley 01-12-99 3
             RE: Opening Celebration Ann Williams 01-12-99 4
                 RE: Opening Celebration Shirley 02-12-99 5
                 RE: Opening Celebration Jim 02-12-99 6
                     RE: Opening Celebration alison 02-12-99 12
  RE: Opening Celebration Nicola 02-12-99 7
     RE: Opening Celebration Bruce Madmin 02-12-99 8
     RE: Opening Celebration Jim 02-12-99 9
         RE: Opening Celebration eugene 02-12-99 10
             RE: Opening Celebration jonathan 02-12-99 11
         RE: Opening Celebration Stephanie 02-12-99 13
             RE: Opening Celebration p.s.stammers 02-12-99 14
                 RE: Opening Celebration eugene merrett 02-12-99 16
                     RE: Opening Celebration Anneliese 02-12-99 19
             RE: Opening Celebration jan 02-12-99 15
             RE: Opening Celebration Anneliese 02-12-99 17
                 RE: Opening Celebration Anneliese 02-12-99 18
                 RE: Opening Celebration charlie 02-12-99 21
                 RE: Opening Celebration Rachel 02-12-99 24
                 RE: Opening Celebration Caitlyn 06-12-99 35
             RE: Opening Celebration Bruce Madmin 02-12-99 20
                 RE: Opening Celebration charlie 02-12-99 22
                     RE: Opening Celebration alison 03-12-99 30
                 RE: Opening Celebration Ann 02-12-99 23
                     RE: Opening Celebration M 02-12-99 25
                         RE: Opening Celebration Shirley 02-12-99 26
                             RE: Opening Celebration eugene merrett 03-12-99 27
             RE: Opening Celebration Hiromi M 03-12-99 28
                 RE: Opening Celebration timpow 03-12-99 29
                     RE: Opening Celebration Stephanie 03-12-99 31
                         RE: Opening Celebration FuzzyFace 03-12-99 32
  RE: Opening Celebration Bruce Madmin 05-12-99 34

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Bruce Madmin

01-12-99, 08:43 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   The Opera side of CG still wield great power it seems! Parity needs to be seen and delivered rather than just talked about I think.


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Hiromi M

01-12-99, 09:23 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   In Japan, we expected that we could watch the Gala on TV *live*, but we miss Ballet part completely!!
(because we are in the morning news show time ....soooo shame)

Could you instruct me the perfomrnace order of Ballet part and who danced which after the performance ?

Enjoy the second part!!

anyway, New ROH looks very cool!


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Shirley

01-12-99, 10:55 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   Well it wasn't "live" but I think Ballet came off better being second as they seemed to have edited out quite a bit of Opera!

Loved the ending - it seemed to be well thought out to have everyone on the stage in tribute to Madam!


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Ann Williams

01-12-99, 11:45 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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Hello? Has everyone gone to bed?

Shirley, not quite clear what you mean by saying that the show wasn't 'live'. I thought it was! And I'm not at all clear why ballet is seen as having 'lost out' to opera because of the switch in running order. I thought the ballet section came out incomparably better than the opera section. Frankly, it was the best ballet gala on TV I've seen in many a year, superlatively organised and executed. I loved every bit of it. My only grumble was not being able to identify the lesser known dancers. Who, for example, was the dancer who performed that exquisite solo from 'The Good-humoured Ladies'?

I'm so excited that I don't think I'll be able to get to sleep tonight!


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Shirley

02-12-99, 06:45 AM (GMT)
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5. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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Ann - I think fromhow the show was produced it was tape delayed slightly! How else could the Floral Hall fill so quickly after the end of the Opera? Perhaps the Ballet was live but pretty sure the Opera wasn't!

I just thought it was a shame that the Opera House didn't stick tpo the original plan of opening with Sleeping Beauty as it closed with it! You are right though that ballet did come out much better which I said in my second posting as I really enjoyed the whole gala!

Christina McDermott danced the The Good Humoured Ladies!


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Jim

02-12-99, 07:41 AM (GMT)
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6. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   >Frankly, it was the best ballet gala on
>TV I've seen in many a year, superlatively
> organised and executed.

Yes, I totally agree! Brilliantly conceived with what amounts to a historical tribute to Dame Ninette. Has Dowell got his act together now? I wish I could've seen more of some of those earlier ones. I thought it ran smoothly and effectively and without the tedious cheesy curtain calls
betwen each item, more could be crammed in! And I thought it was much better to have the opera bits and ballet bits togther rather than interploated alternately as in prvious galas.
Perhaps this really is the dawning of a new phase in the Royal?

I believe the scheduling was influenced by the BBC 'coz the Opera was synched on Radio 3. Also, notice the orchestra was on the stage I should say, I thought the opera was dreadful (however well it might've been sung). I wonder how many viewers watched that Wagner and wondered why all that lottery dosh had been spent. Surely they could've chosen something more "popular" for the sake of the multitude?


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alison

02-12-99, 01:32 PM (GMT)
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12. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   I was a bit confused about the Radio 3 coverage - wasn't it scheduled live for the second half? Unless they changed the R3 schedules as well that must have been really confusing.

Have to admit that I found the opera incredibly long-winded - 3 pieces in an hour, wasn't it? I think something a bit shorter would have been better. Certainly I wonder how many people who were potentially interested in ballet/opera would have given up watching before the ballet bit came along - a bit of a missed opportunity to attract new audiences, I thought. On the other hand, the range of styles shown by the RB must have been a real eye-opener to some people who thought that ballet was just tutus and glitter! (I did find the 1990s chunk a little indigestible, though).

Incidentally, no sign of Belinda Hatley or Mara Galeazzi - anyone know if they're injured?


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Nicola

02-12-99, 08:18 AM (GMT)
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7. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   Well I loved it - and the ballet seemed a lot better than the opera. The ballet section seems to have had a lot of thought and effort put into it, having a excellent theme and a wide range of pieces.Lots of the pieces were new to me and it was good to see famed older ballets that I had heard much about rather than standard gala fare.And I loved the changing backcloths. In contrast the opera seemed to be a choral concert - nothing wrong in that in itelf but it does seem to be a waste of an opera house and it's facilities.

As to the running order being changed - from the opera house's piont of view it was probably a good idea. Imagine if the opera came after the ballet - the audience at home and at the house would be left with a bit of a let down. As it was I found the ending very moving and exilerating.

Only one grumble - a mini grump really - the portraits of the great and good were a lovely idea but I couldn't make them all out - anyone else have better luck.

Anyway - it was an excellent gala !!!!!!!!!


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Bruce Madmin

02-12-99, 08:27 AM (GMT)
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8. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   Agree with all that the ballet side did incredibly well - coherent and thought through. Not quite the same on the opera side.

I still think it a shame that the Ballet went second (after it had been planed otherwise), although all the extra time sweetened the pill no end. Dowell coming through the picture would have been a terrific starter for the whole evening.

But its was lovley to see the ballet in such positive form and also showing a wider repertoire.

Why on earth people bother with opera defeats me!


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Jim

02-12-99, 09:34 AM (GMT)
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9. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   >the portraits of the
>great and good were a lovely
>idea but I couldn't make them
>all out - anyone else have
>better luck.

Well, I could make out Dame Beryl. She's squeezed my hand, you know


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eugene

02-12-99, 12:13 PM (GMT)
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10. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   I think ballet came off far better! Not only was there a lot more of but it was also staged. The opera was done in concert form. This is probably unavoidable because TV cannot really wait for stage changes very long.

It was most enjoyable. I think the loudest cheer was for Sylvie Guilliem in the Manon pdd. I delighted to finally have a video of Durante in RandJ pdd. But the best was Yoshida in La Bayadere. In her brief solo which gave a textbook demonstration of clarity, control and precision.

But I do hope all those who go to the gala on Saturday (is it a repeat event?) do give opera a look in. The great love duet from Die Walkure (not really a duet as they never sing in unison) is amoung the greatest music ever written. WAgner's greatness is in his vocal writing. Even I think his pure orchestral works are bombastic and crude!


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jonathan

02-12-99, 12:39 PM (GMT)
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11. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   >Even I think
>his (Wagner's)pure orchestral works are bombastic
>and crude!

So glad to see that common sense and good taste won the day.



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Stephanie

02-12-99, 01:36 PM (GMT)
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13. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   It was indeed a wonderful evening!! I arrived for my call only to find out that they had need to swap people around and I had been put in the cloakroom - I was ready to cry!! So v kindly another one of the ushers swapped with me for the second half - what a dear boy!! From my point of view then I was extremely pleased that the ballet and opera were separated!!

The casting was.... (sorry for any typos)

Lilac Fairy - not sure who this was as it doesn't say in the programme - any ideas anyone?

Sleeping Beauty Rose adage - Darcey

Symphonic Variations - Miyako Yoshicda and Bruce S

Cinderella - David Drew, Oliver Symons

Ballet Imperial (chor - Balanchine) - Deborah Bull

Birthday Offering - Richardo Cervera, Hubert Essakow, Jonathan Howells, Shi-Ning Liu, Justin Meissner, Yohei Sasaki, Inaki Urlezaga

La fille - Ashley Page, Mara Galezzi, Sara Gallie, Laura Morera, Vanessa Palmer

Napoli (chor Bournonville)- Johna Kobborg

Le Corsaire - Carlos Acosta

The Good Humoured Ladies (Chor Massine) - Christina McDermott

La Bayadere (chor - Nureyev) Miyako Yoshida, Irek Mukhamedov, Leire Ortueta, Rachel Rawlins, Jamie Taper artists

Les Biches (chor - Nijinska) Zenaida Yanowsky

R&J - Viviana Durante, Angel Corella

Raymonda - Miyako Yoshida, Johan Kobborg

Manon - Sylvie & Jon

Elite Synocpations - Belinda Hatley, Gillian Revie, Hicola Tranah

The Concert (Robbins) Artisits

A Month in the Country - Sarah Wilder, Bruce Sansom

Gloria - Leanne Benjamin, Chrsitopher Saunders

Still Life @ the Penguin Cafe - Shi-Ning Liu as the zebra

La Bayadere (Makarova) - Bronze Idol - Angel Corella

Prince of the Pagodas - Darcey & Jon

Fearful Symmetries - Irek, Mara G, Nicola R,

Steptext - Deborah Bull, Adam Cooper

Mr Worldly Wise - Irek

The Firebird - artist of RB and Ballet School

I was absolutely blown away by Angel - I have never seen R&J danced with such passion - I was transfixed!

Eugene - I must agree with you - the more I see Miyako the lovelier she seems. However, I saw her do the R&J ppd last week at the hard hat performance and although beautifully danced, seeing Viv's version of it last night really showed that she still has a long way to go.

I had a fab night - was anyone else there?


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p.s.stammers

02-12-99, 01:46 PM (GMT)
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14. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   I had heard the previous evening at a BRB Friends event that the order had been changed and it was implied it was due to the ongoing technical issues. Sorry I could not let you know, but I was away from my E-mail for the day.
I set the video for it all, but listened to the opera section on the Radio.
Radio 3 had to alter their schedules and miss a programme so I do not think it was the BBC who altered the timimg.
I enjoyed most of it but thought the lighting at times made it difficult to see, however that should not have been a major problem for those in the House.


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eugene merrett

02-12-99, 02:51 PM (GMT)
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16. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   Stephanie, I am inclined to agree with you about RandJ and the respective performances of Yoshida and Durante. Yoshida is wonderfully airy and light dancer whose is technically better then Durante in my view. But she is not a great dramatic dancer in the more dramatically intense works.

Perhaps she is too self effacing to really express herself. In contrast to Durante whose off stage antics suggest a wilder personality. But Yoshida has great stage presence and is ideal in the classics.

I was extremely impressed by Gloria - it looks so serious and moving. What was the music. My gut instinct suggest its Britten War Reqiuem but it does sound like it - sounds like Poulenc, Cannot wait to see it!!

BTW Stephanie I think you were on TV on Saturday - just got a few glimpses. Congrats! Movie contract is in the post - sign and return ASAP!


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Anneliese

02-12-99, 05:59 PM (GMT)
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19. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   "Gloria" is to Poulenc's Gloria. A very pleasant work which sounds just like all other Poulenc! (Like Mozart, he only had one tune - well, he only had one slow movement tune, anyway).


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jan

02-12-99, 02:46 PM (GMT)
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15. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   Agree about Corella/Durante. It was passionate which is quite diffucult to do in the context of a gala. He was so passionate particularly once he really got into the pdd and danced so well. She was lovely as always - lovely dance-actress.


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Anneliese

02-12-99, 02:59 PM (GMT)
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17. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   Good to see the cast list! I wondered if the Lilac Fairy was McGorian or the other character artist who is so lovely?

I was v. disappointed in the whole thing - I'm just re-viewing the video (could have sworn it was Jane Burn in syncopations) to try and concentrate on the dancers (I was tired last night). I adored the closing gala, which was wonderfully programmed and cast and I found it v.v. uplifting - this gala was rather dull. The orchestra I thought was terrible - even the National Anthem was scrappy, let alone Oberon, Wagner and Beethoven (and that final chorus is pretty trite - they did the best bit in the closing gala!) I bet the Queen hated the first half! Notice the Majors weren't there - too much ballet for Norma?

The ballet half was much more exciting than the opera - I loved Corsaire, Fearful Symmetries, Worldly Wise, Biches, Good-humoured Ladies (I recognised Yanowsky and McDermott so feel very proud), enjoyed Napoli and quite enjoyed Penguin Cafe (although I can't stand the music). However, I felt that on the whole it was dull and downbeat. Darcey's Rose Adage was dreadfully wobbly, not a patch on Viviana. Sylvie's Manon was just ugly - what on earth was the point of doing that bit? She has horrible legs and I don't think she'd be waving them at that angle when she was dying. Jonny's acting was wooden, too. Not a patch on Viv&Irek. Corella I found weird as Romeo - the grin was too big. Page as Widow Simone - why on earth not Symons? Or Alasair Marriott, who was brilliant last season. The ugly sisters were done properly (as one would expect with those two veterans!) and nicely. Deborah Bull was quite impressive in her numbers (although her elevation isn't really enough to sparkle in big tutu works) and Miyako was lovely as ever. Leanne Benjamin danced well, but I didn't enjoy "Gloria". A bad choice of piece from "month in the country", and Philip Gammon wasn't playing to his usual standard. And Elite Syncopations - again, the wrong bit was chosen! I appreciate that they wanted more originality than the usual gala fare, but why choose the downbeat numbers? Raymonda was good.
Irek was the bright spark in a rather dull evening, in short. And the camera work was poor - not enough closeups.
Eugene, I far prefer Wagner's orchestral works - it's when you add the voices that it all goes wrong, in my book! Same applies to Janacek.
Roll on 3 weeks' time for Falstaff, anyway.

Anyone else agree with me that this video isn't really worth keeping for posterity, apart from to look at the photos in freeze-frame? Leanne Benjamin was definitely in the photos, btw.


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Anneliese

02-12-99, 05:49 PM (GMT)
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18. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   Just finished watching R&J pdd for the second time. I must have been v. tired last night - it was beautifully done (Viviana looks fantastic - what is she on?). Shame that in the big flagship work, and the biggest crowd-pleaser of the evening, they put on two guests, even if one of them is home-trained. A very nice partnership, though, and one to watch for the future.

Meant to say earlier - Prince of the Pagodas was extremely boring. A "nothing" of a pas de deux, danced without any degree of conviction or panache. It really was a very strange gala! I look forward to the barrage of contradictions - and even more to the views after Saturday's performance.


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charlie

02-12-99, 06:28 PM (GMT)
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21. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   Annaliese - you must have been watching another gala.......


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Rachel

02-12-99, 06:54 PM (GMT)
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24. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   I think the Lilac Fairy might have been Nicola Tranah, and I'm sure it was Jane Burn in Elite Syncopations as well.


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Caitlyn

06-12-99, 02:28 AM (GMT)
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35. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   I agree with the above comments! Sylvie was ugly (although I thought Cope was good) and I felt that Corella was just too fast in the R&J pdd. The guy doing Widow Simone was totally unconvincing as well. Otherwise, I thought the Gala was excellent and it was great to have it televised here in Australia! Best wishes to all involved with the ROH and especially the RB!


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Bruce Madmin

02-12-99, 06:11 PM (GMT)
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20. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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>Lilac Fairy - not sure who this
>was as it doesn't say in
>the programme - any ideas anyone?

Nicola Tranah surely

>
>Elite Synocpations - Belinda Hatley, Gillian Revie, Hicola Tranah

Hicola? new girl?!!!


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charlie

02-12-99, 06:31 PM (GMT)
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22. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   The Lilac Fairy was definitely Nicola Tranah.


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alison

03-12-99, 01:33 PM (GMT)
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30. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   *Very* definitely - and not Darcey Bussell as claimed by Debra Craine in the Times (did she not wonder how D. could have done such a quick costume change?)


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Ann

02-12-99, 06:39 PM (GMT)
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23. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   Lovely to see a great chunk of the night devoted to the RB. Nice also to see Adam included in the show. Was it my imagination or did he nearly drop Deborah in Steptext early on? (I think her costume was a bit slippery). Good also to see Jonny back in good form. Opera bit I thought weird and boring. English translation subtitles rendered the whole thing incredibly comic. Why don't they let us just get into the music? Thank goodness they don't feel the need to explain the plot in ballet in this way.


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02-12-99, 09:15 PM (GMT)
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25. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   Think ego.......

Think Haitink....

Think who wanted to be the first on the podium..

...and I think you have your answer as to why the order was changed.... I heard it's going back to Ballet first on Saturday


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Shirley

02-12-99, 10:03 PM (GMT)
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26. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   I hope they keep the same order as Wednesday! I think it would finish much more on a high that way!


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eugene merrett

03-12-99, 00:17 AM (GMT)
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27. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   No one should complain about opera being firsts just as surely as one should not complain about ballet being first! It is either one or the other. Some is going to loose out!

But the opera presentation was absolutely terrible. It effected the ballet because I am sure that newcomers to this art change channel before the ballet began as the opera was so boring!

To start with Die Walkure was a riduclous idea. it is one of the longest love duet in opera and not easy to like as it not very tuneful. Wagner requires alot of experience in music and considerable outright study before one is ready to tackle one of his 5 hour operas.

If they have to start with opera they should have done highlights from the easier operas such as La Boheme, La Traviata, Tosca etc.

I think it was more enjoyable to those who saw it live as it is great music. But on TV with poor sound and no sets it was downright boring. Also Haitink is no Wagnerian! And I should point out that the Die Walkure is available on numerous CDs including one with both Placido Domingo and Deborah Polaski (miscast as Sieglinde anyway). So why has this tedious (to most people) half) hour duet to open the house?

As it stands it was aloof and off puting. I am surprise that the press have not latched on to this PR mistake.


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Hiromi M

03-12-99, 05:01 AM (GMT)
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28. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   Thank you so much for the complete list of the performance !

The wonderful performance encourages me to wait two more months until I can wath the broadcasting the performance in Japan !

Congratulations for the Royal Ballet and for you all in London !


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timpow

03-12-99, 11:07 AM (GMT)
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29. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   LAST EDITED ON 03-Dec-99 AT 11:07 AM (GMT)

Running the ballet after the interval was a problem because it had been announced the other way round. As a result some people arranged their TV viewing times wrongly and several people I know ended up recording all the boring opera and because of the extended run lost some of the final pieces,in particular the Firebird.
I thought the tv coverage way below standard but actual production and performance superb and would award full marks for the concept and execution. I was delighted to see the Rose Adagio costumes.
It was encouraging to see some excellent performances from the core members of the company as against guests and imports although,of course,they were such a joy to see.


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Stephanie

03-12-99, 02:45 PM (GMT)
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31. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   Oh that is a point - I was wondering if the costumes for Sleeping Beatuy were new? Any ideas?


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FuzzyFace

03-12-99, 03:05 PM (GMT)
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32. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   No, they were recreations of the costumes designed by Oliver Messel for the famous 1946 production.


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34. "RE: Opening Celebration"
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   This thread is now rather long so I think its prudent to put in a link to the second thread on the subject:

http://www.danze.co.uk/dcforum/happening/387.html


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