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Subject: "God's Turkey ?" Archived thread - Read only
 
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gerald

25-11-99, 08:27 AM (GMT)
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"God's Turkey ?"
 
   God's Plenty ? Good that they served it up just in time for Christmas... What do you think ?


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: God's Turkey ? JohnW 25-11-99 1
     RE: God's Turkey ? Magda 25-11-99 2
  RE: God's Turkey ? Bruce Madmin 25-11-99 3
     RE: God's Turkey ? Stuart Sweeney 25-11-99 4
         RE: God's Turkey ? gerald dowler 29-11-99 6
     RE: God's Turkey ? JohnW 26-11-99 5

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JohnW

25-11-99, 09:31 AM (GMT)
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   What a load of old codswallop - village pantomime time. I gave up and escaped at the first interval. Did it get any better?


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Magda

25-11-99, 12:38 PM (GMT)
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   No.


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Bruce Madmin

25-11-99, 02:35 PM (GMT)
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   I had mixed thoughts about it but would like to see it again. If it was a double bill I would say I loved one of the pieces and would recommend people to see it, while the other part was not good at all.

I gather that there have been a number of changes made since it was first toured outside London. Has anybody seen it twice and can comment?


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Stuart Sweeney

25-11-99, 10:07 PM (GMT)
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   Having seen 'God's Plenty' on Wednesday, without any technical hitches, my overall views are in line with those of Bruce and Lynette, rather than the 'God's Turkey' view. I do not see GP in the same light as Bejart's dire Mr. C, the first Act of Mr. WW. or Graeme Millar's 'Country Dancing' at the Place last year. For works like these, I find myself praying, for the performers sake as well as my own, that a large hole opens up and delivers them from their(and our)ordeal.

Like Bruce I enjoyed GP a lot at the start - the lighting and variable rectangle frame are fab; I enjoyed the Shaman dance with Paul Liburd and Hope Muir; the entrance of the hooded Monk is dramatic and the solos for Conor O'Brien with a sword, and Didi Veldman as Constance were interesting and beautifully performed. I love mediaeval music and the arrangements of the lovely old tunes worked well for the most part with occasional over-arrangement.

I didn't enjoy the actual tales as much. I think the Narrator does not help. Perhaps this is felt necessary for the schools performances, the importance of which was underlined by the comments of one of the Rambert administrators to a friend of mine. Having re-read Bruce's review from October, I note that he mentions old English text. The version at SW uses a modern translation, which has a lot of ropey doggerel and little elegance, so I'm not sure whether there have been changes there. The programme notes give a good summary of the plots of each of the stories, so I remain of the view that the Narrator is an unnecessary distraction.

I also agree with Lynette that the episodic nature of the Tales does not make for a harmonious dance work. Nevertheless, The Millers Tale had some spark and fine dancing from Matthew Hart and Brendan Faulls and amusing acting from a heavily disguised Conor O'Brien.

I didn't see the original version, but from reading Bruce's comments I would guess that the 'Trials of Constance' might have been moved to its new position in the Prelude (which comes before the Prologue!) and perhaps shortened.

Overall the positive thoughts that I had after the first hour of largely non-narrative mood setting were eroded to some extent, but not completely, by the Tales themselves. Pure dance rules, OK.


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gerald dowler

29-11-99, 08:13 AM (GMT)
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   Yes, I agree that the Shamans were good and Mavis (or whatever her name was) and her four men were lovely. The Crusaders toe-clenchingly naff (except for woman's solo) and the Tabard Inn very old fashioned - like de Valois in the need to develop character.
BUT did it actually mean anything, did it hold together or was it just pretentious, unconnected nonsense ?


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JohnW

26-11-99, 09:14 AM (GMT)
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   >I had mixed thoughts about it but would like to >see it again.

And I thought this was a nice respectable site, not one for budding masochists!


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