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Bruceadmin

29-09-02, 09:42 AM (GMT)
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"Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III"
 
   LAST EDITED ON 04-10-02 AT 06:27 AM (GMT)


Time to open another thread. Earlier threads are at
Thread I (over 30 posts)
Thread II (nearly 50 posts)

we also have a subsidiary thread:
Some questions arising from Ross Stretton's departure

Thread full
This thread is now full and a new thread has been opened for at:
Thread 4
Further (good tempered)) contributions, thoughts and responses there please. many thanks


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  RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III Bruceadmin 29-09-02 1
     RE: Search committees Brendan McCarthymoderator 29-09-02 2
         RE: David Drew Brendan McCarthymoderator 29-09-02 5
             RE: David Drew JohnB 29-09-02 10
         RE: Search committees dances 29-09-02 9
     RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III PeteG 29-09-02 12
  RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III PhilipBadmin 29-09-02 6
     RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III Claire S 29-09-02 7
         RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III Alexandra 29-09-02 8
             RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III Claire S 29-09-02 11
             RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III AEHandley 29-09-02 13
  Monday Links Bruceadmin 30-09-02 14
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         RE: Monday Links Bruceadmin 01-10-02 16
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             RE: Monday Links Robert 01-10-02 25
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                     RE: Monday Links Robert 02-10-02 35
  Tuesday Links Bruceadmin 01-10-02 17
     RE: Tuesday Links AnnWilliams 01-10-02 22
  David Drew interview available on web Bruceadmin 01-10-02 23
     RE: David Drew interview available on web Helen 01-10-02 24
         RE: David Drew interview available on web Robert 01-10-02 27
             RE: David Drew interview available on web Robert 02-10-02 30
  Damage limitation exercise alison 01-10-02 28
     RE: changes in programming post Stretton Chrism 02-10-02 31
         RE: changes in programming post Stretton Claire S 02-10-02 32
         RE: changes in programming post Stretton alison 02-10-02 33
             RE: changes in programming post Stretton Robert 02-10-02 34
                 RE: changes in programming post Stretton Robert 02-10-02 36
                 RE: changes in programming post Stretton alison 03-10-02 56
  RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III AEHandley 02-10-02 37
     RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III Brendan McCarthymoderator 02-10-02 38
         RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III Brendan McCarthymoderator 02-10-02 40
         RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III AEHandley 02-10-02 41
             RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III PhilipBadmin 02-10-02 42
                 RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III Brendan McCarthymoderator 03-10-02 44
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             RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III MAB 03-10-02 61
             RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III alison 03-10-02 62
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Bruceadmin

29-09-02, 09:47 AM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III"
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Some relevent links from our TodaysLinks page at:
www.ballet.co.uk/todayslinks


Ross Stretton resignation
Corps, what a scorcher!
Simon O'Hagan looks at the feuds and allegations surrounding the departure of Ross Stretton, artistic director of the Royal Ballet
London
by Simon O'Hagan
    "The success of any group artistic enterprise depends on the quality of the atmosphere that surrounds it. No good work comes out of a bad vibe. The one Mr Stretton created was evidently plumbing the depths. Now the Royal Ballet is hoping that the company's delicate equilibrium can be restored."
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/media/story.jsp?story=337600

Royal Ballet - Deborah Bull
Ballerina steps up as frontrunner to head Covent Garden
By Richard Brooks
    "Bull, 39, who retired last year citing “nerves” as one reason for stopping her main stage performances, is highly regarded by both the senior management and the board of Covent Garden. Since the start of this year she has been artistic director of the Royal Opera House’s two new studio theatres, the Clore and the Linbury."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-429824,00.html


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Brendan McCarthymoderator

29-09-02, 10:10 AM (GMT)
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2. "RE: Search committees"
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   LAST EDITED ON 29-09-02 AT 10:41 AM (GMT)

Some questions were raised on the previous thread about the manner of Ross Stretton's appointment.

A headhunter, or, as in this case, a search and selection committee, has particular difficulty in researching the last job held by the succesful candidate. Confidentiality means that a present employer cannot be approached before an offer has been made. Research into Ross Stretton's background is likely to have majored on his record at ABT which, by all accounts, was excellent, but where, crucially, he was not artistic director. Michael Kaiser's direct personal experience of Stretton will have been highly relevant.

It is almost certain that the search committee will have had limited knowledge of his work in Australia beyond the broad "headlines". To have researched the record in any great detail would have risked a breach of confidentiality.

It may not be the time for a balanced scorecard on Ross Stretton, but it should be said in his favour that he had raised some of the right questions. The Royal Ballet needs new audiences, new work and a more diverse repertory. Despite last week's events, these issues have not gone away.


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29-09-02, 03:18 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: David Drew"
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   LAST EDITED ON 29-09-02 AT 04:28 PM (GMT)

In today's Mail on Sunday, David Drew, the Royal Ballet's principal character artist, scathingly denounces Ross Stretton's record. He did so without clearance from the Royal Opera House and in defiance of company policy.

He accuses Stretton of being the most divisive figure in the company's history and of being completely out of his depth as artistic director. Of his opening production of Don Quixote, Drew says that it was "an insult to the Royal Ballet with designs that looked like a Fifties pantomime."

"He was on a huge ego trip", Drew continues. "In rehearsals he was really a glorified ballet master, not an artistic director. Like all autocrats, Stretton never trusted his staff to do their jobs. A lot of sensible and experienced people were ignored."

It was during the tour to Australia, he tells the Mail, that dancers decided to move against Stretton. By then they were thoroughly unhappy about what they perceived as favouritism in his casting decisions. What they heard about his previous record at the Australian Ballet made them even more determined to act. They were further angered at the programme for the Golden Jubilee Gala, which Drew describes as insulting. "It became a glorification of Ross Stretton, not the Queen, and did not reflect the historical creativity of the company." After this, according to Drew, the ROH board became concerned and events quickly gathered pace.

David Drew says there should be no haste in appointing a long-term successor, but that Monica Mason, who knows the company's ethos, should run the Royal Ballet until she retires in four years time.


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JohnB

29-09-02, 08:17 PM (GMT)
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10. "RE: David Drew"
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   Perhaps if Michael Kaiser had remained, pitfalls could have been avoided; but that's all speculation. Given past experience, several of us in the U.S. and colleagues in Australia were, at best, bemused at Mr Stretton's appointment. But now's the time to look forward, and in this regard I concur with David Drew's counsel to avoid haste in making appointments. Running the ballet company is entirely different to running an opera company. This is something the ROH board needs to appreciate before risking another mistake. In BIG we have debated many facets of artistic direction: The ability of the artistic direction function to understand business and marketing, personnel management, and organisational aspects and their implications on teaching and training, and life after dancing, is vital. However, most important of all is a clear and exciting artistic vision, which sensitively embraces, challenges and develops the qualitative and technical abilities of company members. Are these tasks for more than one person?

Additional thoughts for those budding armchair ADs to debate: Given the other large works in the season, isn’t having three big Tchaikowski ballets in one season is rather ambitious? Should Sleeping Beauty be postponed until next season? Should it be substituted by a triple bill of say Gloria, and Song of the Earth and the work of an in-house choreographer, perhaps chosen from previous winners of the R.B.S. MacMillan prize? If New York City Ballet can pull in good houses week after week with rep. evenings, why should the Royal Ballet, with effective marketing, fear empty seats for a series of triple bills?

But right now, my heart goes out to the dancers and the in-house choreographic talent for having had to endure such uncertainty. At the moment, it's the time to give them space to sort things out amongst themselves and to allow any necessary internal reconciliations a chance to take place.


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29-09-02, 07:30 PM (GMT)
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9. "RE: Search committees"
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   >LAST EDITED ON 29-09-02
>AT 10:41 AM (GMT)

>
>Some questions were raised on the
>previous thread about the manner
>of Ross Stretton's appointment.
>
>A headhunter, or, as in this
>case, a search and selection
>committee, has particular difficulty in
>researching the last job held
>by the succesful candidate.

But Stretton's problems with the Oz Ballet were a matter of public record. So either the selection committee knew about them and ignored them, or they didn't do their research properly. They are damned either way it seems to me. Can we hope that these people are kept well away from the selection of Stretton's replacement?


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29-09-02, 10:34 PM (GMT)
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12. "RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III"
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   I realise that everyone else is being very earnest, but I'd just like to say I'm pleased to see him go. I've been a fan for a mere ten years and for the first time I saw absolutely nothing last season. After the casting farce I just couldn't be bothered. And some of the casting for this season doesn't do it for me either.

Seems to me that in the cold light of day, ADs, dancers and choreographers, good or not so good, can all be hired and fired. You can't hire a new audience. I'm glad he's gone before too many of the audience got fed up and found other things to do with their time.


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29-09-02, 03:54 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III"
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   Blimey, I go away for a week and things go to pot! I'm still digesting all the posts and newspaper article links that have been posted here, but a quick reply to Roddy who, in Thread 2, questioned, rhetorically I realise!, if Gailene Stock and Stretton got on; well, Stretton was actually best man at her wedding so they obviously do have a close relationship. That's a fact, but for an opinion I don't think this whole sorry situation has anything to do with her and she should be not be dragged in to this, however casual the link. Errant journalism can be very damaging and I would fear some tabloid-style conspiracy theory "revelation". As a Friend of the RBS I wouldn't accept her work or position being questioned.

I shall continue reading avidly, and hope someone will post that juicy MoS article by David Drew.


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Claire S

29-09-02, 04:44 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III"
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   Hmm, some interesting new angles to this story are emerging. Personally I find the news that the ROH board began to be concerned about the situation after the royal gala quite encouraging in that artistic reasons as well as man management ones have resulted in last week's events. The gala was a PR disaster for the RB, especially galling after the huge success of the reopening gala in 1999 which represented the very best of the company and started its tenure of the new House in a very positive atmosphere.

David Drew's comments are fascinating because if anyone is interested in the company rather than an individual position it has to be Drew at his age.

Regarding Deborah MacMillan, I doubt she made whatever approach to the board she made without much heartache and soul-searching. The Royal has no right to perform MacMillan works and it is entirely in her discretion whether it continues to do so. Of course whether the approach was a threat or a decision, we don;t actually know. I also doubt whether the dancers made their decision lightly.

Two things astonish me most about this whole saga. The first is that if a new director/manager wants to alter an existing company/organisation, he or she is unlikely to succeed without the support of the people within that organisation. And the second is that even an artistic director has a manager, a boss, and it is catastrophic not to tackle whatever problems emerge before it reaches a public bloodbath. Did no-one at Covent Garden KNOW about the disquiet?


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Alexandra

29-09-02, 05:11 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III"
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   Claire, regarding your last question about whether anyone at Covent Garden realized what was going on, although of course I don't know the specifics, I think that when companies run well, they seem to be running themselves, in a way. There are so many people involved -- the people teaching company class and rehearsals -- that, although there will always be grumbles about casting and repertory, things have to be really out of kilter before outsiders notice. One bad production is an error. Three dancers complaining that they're being underused is jealousy, or dancers' nerves. It does take awhile for a pattern to emerge.

I think Bruce's earlier comment of a square peg in a round hole is the best description of this. How could a Round Hole choose a Square Peg? From my observations of the last 5 years in Copenhagen -- where one Square Peg was succeeded by another -- or, perhaps a Square was succeeded by a Triangle and then a Rhomboid -- I think opera house boards do not really understand that running a ballet company is different from running the drama or opera branch, where an artistic director chooses a repertory and hires people to stage/direct the productions. (I don't mean to imply that this is easy, just that it is less than half of a ballet AD's job.) In theater and opera, you don't have to worry about preserving the same blocking, intonation and accent of the original production, whatever that is. To drag in another analogy, an orchestra conductor doesn't have to teach each member of the orchestra his/her parts, note by note. A ballet company's AD does all of that -- and has to deal with the day to day concerns of very ambitious, very young people; the age factor is another difference between opera and ballet, in the ROH case.

I believe it was Brendan who quoted the Ismene Brown interview with Clement Crisp on ballet.co, where Crisp pointed out that former boards were more knowledgeable. I think that's the key.


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Claire S

29-09-02, 09:05 PM (GMT)
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11. "RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III"
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   Alexandra, I know what you mean - I just have an image in my mind of them finding out about it from the newspapers! While no new director could be expected to fulfil his or her potential with someone peering over their shoulder, maybe someone wshould have kept an eye on how things are going. But it does seem to come from a lack of knowledge as to what being an AD entails. Opera is so dominant at Covent Garden that its hardly surprising that ballet is somewhat of an engima to much of the hierarchy. Depressing but not surprising!


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29-09-02, 10:35 PM (GMT)
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13. "RE: Ross Stretton's resignation from RB - III"
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   >I think opera house boards do not really understand that >running a ballet company is different from running the drama or >opera branch, where an artistic director chooses a repertory >and hires people to stage/direct the productions. (I don't mean >to imply that this is easy, just that it is less than half of a >ballet AD's job.) In theater and opera, you don't have to worry >about preserving the same blocking, intonation and accent of >the original production, whatever that is. To drag in another >analogy, an orchestra conductor doesn't have to teach each >member of the orchestra his/her parts, note by note. A ballet >company's AD does all of that -- and has to deal with the day >to day concerns of very ambitious, very young people; the age >factor is another difference between opera and ballet, in the >ROH case.

Very true! And of course, the opera "company", in the case of Covent Garden, isn't really a company at all; it's a chorus and a set of hired vocal cords. And the artistic director doesn't even conduct everything!


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Bruceadmin

30-09-02, 06:44 AM (GMT)
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14. "Monday Links"
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For convience soem links(s) from our TodaysLinks page at:
www.ballet.co.uk/todayslinks

Some reflective thoughts form Judith Mackrell...

Ross Stretton resignation
Dance of destruction
The hasty departure of the Royal Ballet's artistic director lays bare the tensions at the heart of the company
by Judith Mackrell
    "The range of vested interests at the Royal Ballet - inside the company and among its patrons, critics and fans - is daunting. Lady MacMillan, widow of choreographer Kenneth MacMillan, had attacked Stretton over his handling of her late husband's repertory. No single director could serve everybody's agenda, and the fact that Stretton was making a reasonable fist of balancing new and old, of mixing reverence with risk-taking, can be seen in the disparity of complaints made against him. While some critics thought Stretton's programme choices were desecrating the Royal's classical traditions, others thought he was not being bold enough. The arrogance that made him unpopular was in part the thick skin necessary to survive in the job."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,801361,00.html


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Paul A

30-09-02, 02:53 PM (GMT)
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15. "RE: Monday Links"
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   My two pen'eth...
Actually I'm in India on a long, very difficult business trip - so all of this seems very inconsequential.

But hurrah the news - and i'm relying on this board for the details so three cheers more - and really apreciate all the wisdom that posters have shared.

One point on consideration. How on earth did the interview process not scrutinise Stretton's modernising tendencies? Or if he was not candid about his agenda - why again was he not rumbled? What are they about????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Too far away to understand what Lady McM has said or not - but David Drew is to be applauded for his honesty. I don't think he is an AD but when I get home I'll be pushing a note through his door saying good on yer.

Trust and pray that Monica Mason gets all the support she needs to corner the managerial machinations.

And Bruce, sorry to say it - but why did Stretton need thre years' grace before we judge; the dancers clearly couldn't have carried on so.

To the future: I liked the alleged candidacy last time of Seymour and baldwin - which won't happen clearly.

Bruce Sansom does seem the most likely - but pity John Drummond is too old - maybe he could be a special advisor.


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Bruceadmin

01-10-02, 06:40 AM (GMT)
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16. "RE: Monday Links"
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   >And Bruce, sorry to say it
>- but why did Stretton
>need thre years' grace before
>we judge; the dancers clearly
>couldn't have carried on so.

I don't believe I ever said anything about 3 years grace, thank you very much!

I said the time to judge was when the third year programme was announced. That would have been April, May next year roughly. At that time you know the reality of 2 seasons (well nearly) and can see the third.

In a programming sense AD's need time and nothing changes that. With regard to Ross Stretton a bunch of other and related issues have percolated steadily up and could not be ignored - or not ignored by everybody! What's happened is horrid, but it is sorted and I believe the right thing happened - based on what I've read and heard anyway. Few of course know the complete story. But we need a few weeks and months to properly reflect on all this.



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Paul A

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18. "RE: Monday Links"
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   >>And Bruce, sorry to say it
>>- but why did Stretton
>>need thre years' grace before
>>we judge; the dancers clearly
>>couldn't have carried on so.
>
>I don't believe I ever said
>anything about 3 years grace,
>thank you very much!
>
>I said the time to judge
>was when the third year
>programme was announced. That would
>have been April, May next
>year roughly. At that time
>you know the reality of
>2 seasons (well nearly) and
>can see the third.
>

The point is the same. Clearly the dancers couldn't have carried on that far - nor would the regular audience hold up too.

But on a different tack - what where the highlights of Stretton's time?