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Jane S

24-09-02, 10:55 PM (GMT)
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   Just got back from this - a very interesting evening - Polyphonia is a 'must see', and Peter Boal in Duo Concertante was just brilliant. More comments here please!


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: NYCB dancers in London Bruceadmin 25-09-02 1
  RE: NYCB dancers in London MarkE 25-09-02 2
  RE: NYCB dancers in London Jane S 27-09-02 3
     RE: NYCB dancers in London sylvia 27-09-02 4
         RE: NYCB dancers in London phil 27-09-02 5
             RE: NYCB dancers in London AnnWilliams 28-09-02 6
                 RE: NYCB dancers in London Jane S 28-09-02 7
                     RE: NYCB dancers in London Karl 28-09-02 8
                         RE: NYCB dancers in London Estelle 29-09-02 9
                             RE: NYCB dancers in London Tim Powell 29-09-02 10
  Review - NYCB dancers in London Bruceadmin 29-09-02 11
     RE: Review - NYCB dancers in London PhilipBadmin 29-09-02 12
         RE: Review - NYCB dancers in London Mandy 30-09-02 13
             RE: Review - NYCB dancers in London meunier 30-09-02 14
                 RE: Review - NYCB dancers in London Alexandra 30-09-02 15
                     RE: Review - NYCB dancers in London Viviane 18-12-02 16

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Bruceadmin

25-09-02, 00:20 AM (GMT)
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1. "RE: NYCB dancers in London"
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Agree on Wheeldon's Polyphonia - the pdd for Wendy and Jock is absolutely electric and I will cherrish for a very long time. A must see indeed.


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MarkE

25-09-02, 10:57 AM (GMT)
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2. "RE: NYCB dancers in London"
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   Was there last night and thought the first three pieces were OK, but was a little disappointed, the fireworks I was expecting just weren't there. However, Chris Wheeldon's Polyphonia was the closing segment and they had most definitely saved the best till last. His choreography is so fresh and inventive, and the dancers just shone! GO AND SEE IT!


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Jane S

27-09-02, 03:49 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: NYCB dancers in London"
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   I went to see this again last night and enjoyed it even more. I believe there are still seats available for the remaining performances (including the Saturday matinee)!

There was an interesting Q&A session after last night's show, featuring Peter Boal and Benjamin Millepied (who is here as the choreographer of one of the ballets in the programme rather than as a dancer). It could have been better attended, and probably would have been if there had been any sort of announcement during the evening - I only knew about it because someone told me when I was there on Tuesday. It seemed especially relevant to hear Boal talking about the change in NYCB after Balanchine died, and the difficulty the company had in adapting to the new regime, and the difficulty Peter Martins had in taking over the management of dancers who had previously been his peers.

Boal, by the way, said he wished he could have danced more of the classics - Monica Mason please note!


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sylvia

27-09-02, 04:42 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: NYCB dancers in London"
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   LAST EDITED ON 27-09-02 AT 04:44 PM (GMT)

Have to agree, I thought the evening was fantastic, one of the best in a long time. I was really impressed with Yvonne Bourree in Duo Concertante. Not so much with Millepied's piece - it didn't seem to go anywhere. It looked exhausting too - thought the guy was on verge of collapsing! Am looking forward to the matinee on Saturday.


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phil

27-09-02, 05:05 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: NYCB dancers in London"
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   your posts were timed to perfection ...i was
just trying to decide whether to go or not ..
and now my mind is made up ...thanks !!!


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AnnWilliams

28-09-02, 11:46 AM (GMT)
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6. "RE: NYCB dancers in London"
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   Jane - I absolutely agree with you about Peter Boal. He is proably the greatest male dancer in the world today (I put that 'probably' in only because I haven't actually seen every male dancer in the world). I've never seen dancing of such clarity and musicality as he displayed in 'Duo Concertant'. I can't get it out of my mind, in fact, and wish I could go back tonight to see it. I could kick myself for not being at the talk session. Jane, could you expand on what was said - did you ask any questions yourself?


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Jane S

28-09-02, 01:09 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: NYCB dancers in London"
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   These are some of the bits I remember from the Q&A:

Someone asked Boal about the differences between NYCB and other dancers: he said he's been doing class with the RB this week and had been very interested to see how differently things were done. He demonstrated with his hands the difference in emphasis and timing of a pas de bourree, showing how the Balanchine technique put the emphasis on speed. He was the first Balanchine-trained person I've ever heard say that some of the beauty of the step was sacrificed to achieve the speed.

He was asked if he, an excellent teacher himself, had been inspired by any particular teacher: he said (surprise!) Stanley Williams, who had taught him 'through the head' rather than 'through the feet'; he said it was the idea that his mind was controlling what he did that had made dance worthwhile for him.

Someone asked about the difference in NYCB since Balanchine died: he said he joined the company a month after Balanchine's death, and gave a succinct account of the difficulties faced by the dancers, Peter Martins and Jerome Robbins at the time - not entirely irrelevant to the current RB situation.

Asked about his favourite roles, he said Prodigal Son and Apollo, because he enjoys acting;, and, as I mentioned above, that looking back he wished he'd had the opportunity to do more of the classics.

Apologies to Mr Boal if I've misquoted him - I didn't take many notes - and alos to Benjamin Millepied, who had interesting things to say about the transition from dancer to choreographer and the influence of contemporary technique on a ballet company.


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Karl

28-09-02, 01:36 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: NYCB dancers in London"
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   I was there too, and I think that your quotes are right. Another thing that Mr. Boal explained (relatively important in the context of all this RB discussions about heritage works, new works, etc.) was that they have the chance to get a huge amount of new works created on the company. I recall mentioning some 30 to 40 new works over the past years, and as he said "that doesn't mean 30 to 40 good new works but...". They mentioned workshops and the famous Diamond Project as platforms to achieve so many new choreographies being produced.

Of course, NYCB doesn't have any need to perform full length ballets, besides Nutcracker. But, over the last decade or so, they do seem to have achieved a good balance between the heritage of the company (Balanchine and Robbins), and inviting a huge amount of people to create new works on them, some of them as successfully as Wheeldon. It gave to me the feeling of being a very fresh, open company working in a receptive environment (audience included, of course), regardless, particular problems one AD may face eventually.
I’ve seen the whole company performing bills at the New York State Theatre, and I must say what an amazing company they are.


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Estelle

29-09-02, 00:15 AM (GMT)
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9. "RE: NYCB dancers in London"
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   Thanks to all the people who posted their reviews. How frustrating that I couldn't go to London to see it, I've seen Peter Boal only a few times (at the Edinburgh festival in 2000) but he really is among my very favorite male dancers (I'd say my two favorite ones, the other one being Manuel Legris). And "Polyphonia" sounds very interesting...


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Tim Powell

29-09-02, 12:54 PM (GMT)
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10. "RE: NYCB dancers in London"
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   I most certainly endorse the feelings in all the above postings. This was a thoroughly enjoyable programme.
It was so good to see a performance where the long established personality of the company is maintained, to see dancers totally at ease in the NYCB style performing works by both the "founder" choreographers plus two brand new ones.
How I would love to see the full company at the ROH again, those wonderful visits in the past created such a spirit of support from balletgoers. Judging by the applause this week that spirit was revived at the Wells this week.


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Bruceadmin

29-09-02, 01:22 PM (GMT)
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11. "Review - NYCB dancers in London"
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Perhaps just a couple of times a year I get a definitive dance moment - something that shakes me, makes me glow inside and smile uncontrollably. Yup folks, had one at NYCB this week.

It wasn't exactly smiles all the way though. While I love NYCB dancers for their vitality, strength and precision I seem to be developing an aversion to the work of one of their founding choreographers - Jerome Robbins. The evening opened with Robbins' 'In the Night'. It's sweet pleasing movement to sweet Chopin nocturnes... pair after pair after pair of dancers come out, sweetly and pleasingly meander about and then go off. Desperately pleasant and the dance equivalent of how I recall John Denver - the ever-smiling, ever-upbeat, ever-nice, country singer who would have looked at the rubble of the World Trade Center towers and seen a positive message in it. No passion, no bite. It also has a dated feel and the costumes, particularly on somebody like Jock Soto look incongruous against what these dancers are really about.

There was more spirit in Benjamin Millepied's 'Triple Duet' to some pieces for solo flute by Bach. This took a Robbins base and moved it on some - more excitement and fizz. This was a premiere and it was well received though I can't remember so much of it now I'm afraid. 'Duo Concertant' replaced the on-stage flute with piano and violin and Yvonne Borree and Peter Boal as the listening dancers. RB had this in the repertoire danced by Bruce Sansom and Viviana Durante and I recall helping sponsor it back in back in the mists of time - and feeling dead chuffed on the opening night that it was such a stunning work. It's a tight, concentrated piece with bursts of energy, bursts of light, bursts of syncopated movement and utterly absorbing for the few minutes it casts a spell over the audience. However I think I've seen it danced more together and it wasn't my DDM (Definitive Dance Moment).

The last piece was Christopher Wheeldon's 'Polyphonia' and my hit by some margin, but I think most people were raving about this on its first London showing. Wheeldon of course is Royal Ballet School trained, was in RB for a while but has been at NYCB for much of his professional life and in a series of commissions for NYCB and across the USA, he has created quite a name for himself as a choreographer going places. For RB earlier this year he created Tryst - a critical hit, but Polyphonia is a stronger work and really announces his international arrival.

The music by Ligeti is tough stuff. In 'toughness' terms this is a move on from Balanchine choosing Stravinsky and Wheeldon's choreography seems to move some of Balanchine's style forward also - and by no small margin. The sparse clarity and angularity is there but the tempo of movement cuts across the music and makes its own often slow time. But there is such deep harmony and resonance in the counterpoint and like no movement I've seen before. It also put some of 'Tryst' into better perspective for me.

All four pairs of dancers looked strong, but inevitably one's eyes are most drawn to the scarily pared Wendy Whelan and the butch strength of Jock Soto - so powerful you can practically smell the pheromones. Their central pas de deux was my moment and you could hear a pin drop as two powerful dancers at the height of their careers manipulated each other with such slow purpose.

Their pdd ended with Whelan, having steadily and miraculously wound herself around Soto's thigh, sitting at his feet gazing out at the audience like a 60's model - knowing her power and cleverness but so aloof and a little contemptuous at having bothered to do it. "It was the work of moments but now I can rest and look properly cool again!" she seemed to say. They have years left yet, but the world (not just NYCB) will be immeasurably poorer when they are no longer able to dance together.

The costumes, deep plum, and moody low lighting were simple yet elegant foils for the music and choreography. I kept thinking that this must have been what audiences experienced in New York when they turned out to see the work of an initially not-so-well-known Balanchine. In a way I hate it when I see works so talked up and often as not I'm a little disappointed by the reality. I hope all our readers get to see Polyphonia at some point, and find in it all that I and many others have admired.


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PhilipBadmin

29-09-02, 03:22 PM (GMT)
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12. "RE: Review - NYCB dancers in London"
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   I drove for seven and a half hours to get back to London in time to see this last night - the last six miles took two hours, caused by the "pro-peace" demonstrations that were again allowed to bring London to a standstill. All very worthy no doubt but a royal pain in the ass for those of us that live here. As it was, the show started maybe 10 minutes late and a handful of people were forced to wait in the bar until the first interval, no doubt hampered by the appalling road conditions.

Anyway... having made it with minutes to spare I was shocked to be told in the foyer that Stretton had left the RB and my mind was thus reeling when first sitting down to start the evening. Despite this, I enjoyed In The Night, though Marcovici in the first pdd seemed a bit heavy and clumsy for the piece. A certain Jock Soto caught my eye in this with some quite wonderful partnering and more, luckily, was to follow from him later in the evening. I also enjoyed the vivacious Triple Duet with the male dancer positively radiating energy and fun. The programme lists him as Craig Fowler but since no such dancer exists I believe it was Craig Hall - if I'm wrong, someone please correct me.

Before the second intermission was Duo Concertant which I have to say was not quite my cup of tea - I found the 'secret glimpse' scenario too contrived and forced, but the dancing is pure Balanchine and thus very fine. I just wish there was more dancing and less standing around - this isn't quite Ashton, after all.

Finally, the rising star that got away, Christopher Wheeldon's Polyphonia. Wicked. A bulls-eye in the target of neo-classical ballet, bursting with new ideas while keeping the audience on his side with accessible and genuinely enjoyable feats of bravura.

And Jock Soto - well, if I've seen better partnering I must have forgotten it, temporarily rendered amnesiac by the brilliance of his dancing and acting. He is a flexible oak tree of a man, completely watchable and able to be perfectly precise in every detail without once seeming mechanical, laboured or effortful. Brilliant, and that one performance was worth the ticket price alone.

One day London may be lucky enough to get the full NYCB experience and I would then urge everyone to drag any potential dance fans along as they are sure to have a great time.


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Mandy

30-09-02, 11:09 AM (GMT)
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13. "RE: Review - NYCB dancers in London"
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   In the beautiful 'Triple Duet' the male dancer was Jason Fowler, a programme error muddled him up with Craig Hall, who danced in 'Polyphonia'. Anyway, what a marvellous evening, I agree with all the above reviews and especially liked Triple Duet and
Polyphonia.


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meunier

30-09-02, 04:11 PM (GMT)
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14. "RE: Review - NYCB dancers in London"
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   I really think it was Craig Hall - and, yes, he was marvelous. Also, I think of all those who said that Balanchine was damaging to dancers. Just look at the advanced age at which many NYCB dancers retire - certainly 40+ or, in Merrill Ashley's case 50! -- after extremely active careers, when they dance in a year more performances that a RB principal would in three - and that is not meant as any reflection on the RB princial's, just the company's current and recent past given regimes.


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Alexandra

30-09-02, 06:23 PM (GMT)
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15. "RE: Review - NYCB dancers in London"
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   Craig Hall does exist. Here's a link to his photo and bio.

http://www.nycballet.com/about/bio_hall.html


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Viviane

18-12-02, 05:17 PM (GMT)
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16. "RE: Review - NYCB dancers in London"
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   I've just discovered these pictures -hidden between Bolshoi & Kirov- on one of my favourite balletsites :
http://users.skynet.be/ballet-lovers/DC.html
another proof Craig Hall does exist (click to enlarge)


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