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Jonathan S

13-07-02, 11:05 AM (GMT)
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"London Arts - your money and mine"
 
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In a week when I had to apply and pay to park in my own street, and when there were threats of charges for postal deliveries and rubbish collection, I noticed that the government had also been spending my money on this at London Arts:

"What was the first piece of art that you remember?
What is art to you? Jordan Baseman spent three weeks at London Arts in March 2001, finding out the answers. I Love L.A. is a video piece exploring the private disclosures of a public funding body, revealing an intimate and personal relationship between the individuals within LA and the art-world beyond it." (http://www.arts.org.uk/directory/regions/london/Jordan_Baseman/jordan.html)

So, I pay taxes to help set up an arts funding body, which then gives money to someone to make a video about life within that arts funding body.

The old fogey in me suspects that this is what happens when arts graduates who are disappointed that they've ended up typing for a living try to make their jobs meaningful. Does anyone want to join me in protesting against this waste of public money?

If you'd like to know more about Jordan Baseman's work, see this link, too: http://www.lshtm.ac.uk/art/hygiene/baseman.html


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  RE: London Arts - your money and mine Brendan McCarthymoderator 13-07-02 1
     RE: London Arts - your money and mine Paul A 16-07-02 2
         RE: London Arts - your money and mine Robert 17-07-02 3
             RE: London Arts - your money and mine eugdog 17-07-02 4
                 RE: London Arts - your money and mine Robert 17-07-02 5

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Brendan McCarthymoderator

13-07-02, 12:23 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: London Arts - your money and mine"
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I'd like to add my enthusiastic endorsement of Jonathan's protest. I'm afraid I'm quite right-wing on this and would close down virtually the entire apparatus of funding and intermediate bodies, leaving a skeletal Arts Council and the decisive say in funding within DCMS. It is telling that in dance there is immensely more creativity in the United States, a free-market economy, than in any of the European social market economies.

In this connection, it is worth having a look at today's Financial Times profile of Gerry Robinson, Chairman of the Arts Council.


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Paul A

16-07-02, 12:09 PM (GMT)
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   In the days when I was fundraising for a chamber opera theatre London Arts was one of the bodies that could be regularly relied upon to provide funding across a wide variety of criteria.

They were a valuable source of largesse, certainly for a young charity and deliberately non-elitist organisation which was of limited appeal to corporate donors and foundations.

What I did not find appealing were the application forms (I'm thinking more of the Lottery forms than LA) which were so opaquely written in officialese (or maybe were just downright badly written) - that it was impossible to understand the question let alone work out what a "correct" answer may be.

Which said I do remember Norman Lebrecht, I think, commenting what would have happened if de Valois or Baylis had been impeded by paperwork in triplicate demanding to know acccess arrangements for alternate wet waether Thursday matinees for third sons of widowed great aunts from Commonwealth countries without the letter r in their name. Or some such.


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Robert

17-07-02, 00:10 AM (GMT)
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   One tends to be upset by lack of funding in the arts but one only ocassionally notices the completely worthless trash that often gets support. The people that dole the money out are on a different wavelenth from most of us.


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eugdog

17-07-02, 01:52 PM (GMT)
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   RE: Free Market and the Arts

Regarding Brendan McCarthy and her view on the Arts - although I am in sympathy of free market principles I would have to concede that it is not ideal for culture (esp in Europe). Generally speaking the opera and ballet world in the US is less adventureous and more "consumer" orienated. This is the inevitable consequence of a more free market approach where the customer is always right.

But perhaps more important is that the US has grown up with the free market system by having very large auditoriums in order to maximize revenue - European opera houses are very small and hence there is a need for subsidy to keep them running. As we have gone down the path of government subsidy it is very difficult to reverse.

What ever your ideology is - I think there is no denying that a free market approach to art in Europe would be considerable "leap in the dark"


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Robert

17-07-02, 02:09 PM (GMT)
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   Eudog
Brendan is a bloke not a her!


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