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MICHAELT

11-06-02, 03:09 PM (GMT)
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"EDWARD WATSON"
 
   Why has this brilliant young dancer been given so little to do this season? He is fully recovered from his injury, and raring to go. In fact, why is Stretton's casting so deadly dull and predicatable? Apart from Nunez and Putrov, he seems incapable of taking a risk on anyone - everything is cast with principals (I know that's the point of having them, but you've got to build from below too; Dowell was good at this)..

If he doesn't open up casting a bit, I bet there will be further extremely embarrassing departures along the Wildor lines


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: EDWARD WATSON alison 11-06-02 1
     RE: EDWARD WATSON Terry Amos 11-06-02 2
         RE: EDWARD WATSON Steven 11-06-02 3
  RE: EDWARD WATSON Bruceadmin 12-06-02 4
     RE: EDWARD WATSON Paul A 12-06-02 5
         RE: EDWARD WATSON alison 12-06-02 6
         RE: EDWARD WATSON Jane S 12-06-02 8
             RE: EDWARD WATSON Paul A 13-06-02 9
             RE: EDWARD WATSON alison 13-06-02 10
     RE: EDWARD WATSON alison 12-06-02 7
         RE: EDWARD WATSON Tim Powell 13-06-02 11
             RE: EDWARD WATSON MICHAELT 13-06-02 12

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alison

11-06-02, 05:28 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: EDWARD WATSON"
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   I thought, compared with some, he'd danced a fair bit in the last few months, actually (peasant pd6, In the Middle, (in!) Carmen, Benvolio, Por Vos, 2nd cast lead in Leaves, Tryst all spring to mind, and it's probably because the triple bills were rather unmemorable that I don't remember whether he was in any of them!). When was he back from injury - was it February-ish, or am I imagining it? However, yes, I would like to see him do some bigger roles as well - after all, he is one of the leading (and, we hope, upcoming - they are desperately needed!) soloists, and it's time he was getting some more roles where he can get used to partnering.

I do agree with you about the predictable casting, though - it does seem that unless you're Nunez, Tapper or Putrov you don't tend to get much in the way of meaty roles, and *they* frequently only get them on a "dead men's shoes" basis.


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Terry Amos

11-06-02, 08:14 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: EDWARD WATSON"
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   Isn't he in his middle twenties? So "young" and "up and coming" seem odd words to use. If they don't give him the big roles soon it will be too late.

Actually, I always regarded him as very promising and expected him to have a fine career. Probably he would have had in any other company but the RB, who have often shamefully neglected some obvious talents.


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Steven

11-06-02, 10:30 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: EDWARD WATSON"
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   I have to say I think Edward Watson has done quite well this year - I agree that he is very talented and I would like to see him in more bigger roles too.

So let's have some constructive comments here.

What roles - from this season's repertory - would people have liked to see him in, which he didn't actually do?

I'm guessing Beliaev is one he would have been very good in. (And one reason we didn't see him in that is the fact that Guillem did almost all the performances.)

Anyone disagree? Anyone got other suggestions? Or perhaps suggestions from next season's repertory? You never know, those with power to cast could just need a gentle hint... (OK I doubt it but we can try, can't we?)


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Bruceadmin

12-06-02, 08:09 AM (GMT)
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4. "RE: EDWARD WATSON"
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   >he seems incapable of taking
>a risk on anyone -
>everything is cast with principals
>(I know that's the point
>of having them, but you've
>got to build from below
>too; Dowell was good at
>this)..

I'm not sure Dowell was - certainly I don't think people thought that at the time, though with the benefit of hindsight it was perhaps a golden age!

As Ismene Brown pointed out recently the number of pieces performed in a year has recently come down significantly - If I recall her stats, from around 24, or so, to 17. With that goes much opportunity for testing the wider company of dancers and developing rising stars.


>If he doesn't open up casting
>a bit, I bet there
>will be further extremely embarrassing
>departures along the Wildor lines

Stretton does seem to like younger dancers - his casting seems to show that and also the recruiting from RBS this year - I don't think I've ever known so many come in one year.

But Dowell rarely fast tracked in the way that seems to be happening now with Stretton. Many thought that Wildor should have been given much more earlier for example. The problem is that STretton in doing what is probably the right thing for some, denies opportunities for others. There is certainly a fear that a generation of dancers are not being championed or encouraged by the roles they are seeing.

Its all screaming out for some integrated and holistic way of developing dancers and choreographers across all three performance spaces in the House...



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Paul A

12-06-02, 10:40 AM (GMT)
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5. "RE: EDWARD WATSON"
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   Looking forward:

Would Rudolf be too much of a leap at this stage?

Not sure he would be entirely right in Pagodas but would certainly bring a keen edge to the role.

Lead cavalier in Scenes de ballet.


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alison

12-06-02, 12:48 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: EDWARD WATSON"
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   >Looking forward:
>
>Would Rudolf be too much of
>a leap at this stage?

Possibly, although no reason why he couldn't be one of the Hungarian officers.
>
>
>Not sure he would be entirely
>right in Pagodas but would
>certainly bring a keen edge
>to the role.

Not sure about this, but again I can't see why he could at least do one of the kings.


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Jane S

12-06-02, 10:14 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: EDWARD WATSON"
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   Though I'd be very happy to be proved wrong, I'd have thought Rudolf would be incredibly difficult for Watson at this stage - a killer role, with complicated pas de deux with several different partners - a huge challenge for someone who, as Alison says, has not had much experience in partnering. (- after how many years in the company? 7?)

I think he's quite difficult to cast as he's so different from anyone else. But whatever they decide to put him in, I really hope they'll prepare him properly: I was very unhappy to see him in In the Middle, apparently sent on with not nearly enough rehearsal, and looking very nervous and uncertain in some of his partnering of Ortuera. He's potentially far to valuable to be treated like that.


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Paul A

13-06-02, 09:58 AM (GMT)
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9. "RE: EDWARD WATSON"
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   >
>I think he's quite difficult to
>cast as he's so different
>from anyone else. But whatever
>they decide to put him
>in, I really hope they'll
>prepare him properly:

Agree Jane. The reason I suggested these major roles is that he is so different - he really registers. I think (with the right support) that he would make something special of Rudolf.


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alison

13-06-02, 01:38 PM (GMT)
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10. "RE: EDWARD WATSON"
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   I thought he did pretty well in In the Middle, but perhaps I saw the second performance? I can't quite remember now.


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alison

12-06-02, 12:59 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: EDWARD WATSON"
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   ... but you've
>>got to build from below
>>too; Dowell was good at
>>this)..
>
>I'm not sure Dowell was -

Well, he didn't seem to stick to hierarchies as much as STretton has thus far - Belinda Hatley got picked out early, as did Wildor and a few others I could mention, dancing on a level with principals.

>As Ismene Brown pointed out recently
>the number of pieces performed
>in a year has recently
>come down significantly ...
With that goes much
>opportunity for testing the wider
>company of dancers and developing
>rising stars.
>
Only too true. We seem to be heading rather more down the line of "2 principals and a corps"-type ballets, with little opportunity for other dancers to make a mark, which is something I've previously accused ENB of and is probably why they don't have dancers climbing up the ranks the way one might expect.
>
>
>But Dowell rarely fast tracked in
>the way that seems to
>be happening now with Stretton.

Who do you think Stretton has been fast-tracking? (and see my comments about Dowell above). Putrov is obviously on his way up, and the shortage of men has given him some chances that he might otherwise not have had, but otherwise? Nunez was already at first soloist before Stretton arrived, so is a logical choice for a number of roles if others have to drop out.

The problem
>is that STretton in doing
>what is probably the right
>thing for some, denies opportunities
>for others.

That happens whatever the AD, surely? Everyone has their preferences (and dislikes).

There is certainly
>a fear that a generation
>of dancers are not being
>championed or encouraged by the
>roles they are seeing.
>
Yes, indeed.


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Tim Powell

13-06-02, 02:44 PM (GMT)
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11. "RE: EDWARD WATSON"
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   It appears to be a fact that Edward has special qualities and this has been remarked for some time now but as the company has no choreographer whatever there is no one to utilise such gifts.

It is a fact that his dancing this season has been of a pretty poor standard in the Giselle pas d6 he had touble staying upright and in roles like a Rose Fairy escort he looked uninvolved and not up to the required standard. This compared with Nathan Coppen, say,who whilst well up to better things danced perfectly or young Stepanek who is coming up nicely.


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MICHAELT

13-06-02, 03:23 PM (GMT)
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12. "RE: EDWARD WATSON"
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   Tim Powell isa right, of course. Watson isn't up to much as a porter, or a classical variations dancer. But he has got personality, presence, style, commitment and intelligence. A choreographer -or a good company director - would be able to nurture his exceptional talents. The Royal Ballet is so damn faceless nowadays - Watson has an individuality which should be cherished

PS I don't think he's remotely up to Mayerling in terms of strength or technique, even though I'm sure his charcterisation would be fascinating


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