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Ann Welsh

01-06-02, 10:29 PM (GMT)
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"OK, next question? BRB's Carmina Burana & Powder"
 
   BRB's Double bill Edinburgh Festival Theatre, end of June. Worth a 200 mile round trip for a matinee performance? How do I find out about casting?


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  RE: OK, next question? BRB's Carmina Burana & Powder Bruceadmin 02-06-02 1
     RE: OK, next question? BRB's Carmina Burana & Powder trogadmin 02-06-02 2
         RE: OK, next question? BRB's Carmina Burana & Powder Ann Welsh 02-06-02 3
             RE: OK, next question? BRB's Carmina Burana & Powder Flight 02-06-02 4
             RE: OK, next question? BRB's Carmina Burana & Powder Bruceadmin 02-06-02 5
                 RE: OK, next question? BRB's Carmina Burana & Powder trogadmin 03-06-02 6
                     RE: OK, next question? BRB's Carmina Burana & Powder Richard Jones 03-06-02 7
                         RE: OK, next question? BRB's Carmina Burana & Powder AEHandley 04-06-02 9
  RE: OK, next question? BRB's Carmina Burana & Powder Terry Amos 04-06-02 8

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Bruceadmin

02-06-02, 12:00 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: OK, next question? BRB's Carmina Burana & Powder"
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   >BRB's Double bill Edinburgh Festival Theatre,
>end of June. Worth
>a 200 mile round trip
>for a matinee performance?
>How do I find out
>about casting?

Not wishing to stop anybody responding - I hope many people do - but have you looked in reviews database to see some of what has been said before - use adavanced search to look for things based on a specific company and/or piece. It's never a complete answer - but worth a look and we record reviews for the longer term just to help people in making their mind up.


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trogadmin

02-06-02, 04:09 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: OK, next question? BRB's Carmina Burana & Powder"
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   I posted a blurb about this very prodution when it was in Birmingham. I would suggest Powder alone is worth the 200 mile trip. Having said that, don't blame me if you don't like it. I cannot give you a level headed opinion about the BRB! (especially if Leticia is dancing).

Finding out about casting is quite tricky, if details are not posted on their web site. I had the same dilema for the Birmingham showing of Hobsons Choice. It was suggested I email them but got no response. Luckily that wonderful ballet.co-er Terry Amos came to the rescue and was able to give "unofficial" cast details, which were 100% accurate.


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Ann Welsh

02-06-02, 07:43 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: OK, next question? BRB's Carmina Burana & Powder"
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   Bruce, I did try the Reviews section, but they all dated back to 1997 ;-(.

Trog, thanks for that. I think I'll maybe make the trip and, being a matinee, I expect I'll have to take pot luck as to casting. Nevertheless BRB always give good value.


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Flight

02-06-02, 08:45 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: OK, next question? BRB's Carmina Burana & Powder"
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   Personally I don't like Powder at all. I think the musical timing is far too obvious and simple. I still think you should go, though.


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Bruceadmin

02-06-02, 10:22 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: OK, next question? BRB's Carmina Burana & Powder"
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   >Bruce, I did try the Reviews
>section, but they all dated
>back to 1997 ;-(.

But thats OK I think - the choreography won't have changed even if the dancers will have hutched around a bit. I'm really pleased that we have these older reviews!



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trogadmin

03-06-02, 12:04 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: OK, next question? BRB's Carmina Burana & Powder"
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   This should be the link to the review I wrote when the BRB performed this at the Birmingham Hippodrome:-
http://www.danze.co.uk/dcforum/happening/2725.html


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Richard Jones

03-06-02, 06:48 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: OK, next question? BRB's Carmina Burana & Powder"
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   Worth a 200 mile round trip? Not if you are fond of Mozart. I saw Powder in a triple bill with The Protecting Veil; I would make a long journey to see The Protecting Veil again, but I'm not sure that I would get on a local bus to see Powder. Mary Clarke wrote about it in Dancing Times when it was first done; I don't have that issue to hand, but she effectively said that the choreography had little to do with the music. If you know the clarinet concerto well, you'll know that the second movement is built on a serene melody; the steps for this movement are unbelievably fussy.

I haven't seen DB's Carmina for years, but can't remember that it grabbed me. There was a much better (and earthier) version on TV decades ago (possibly the Bavarian TV prod. of 1976 - it was, in any case, a German production). That performance seemed to go wholeheartedly for the spirit of the songs, while DB's seems to have a bit of a mixed up approach (it came over to me as oddly English "nudge-nudge-wink-wink what the butler saw", rather than something as raw and virile as the texts and the music). Also, I seem to remember that he plays 'Circa mea pectora' too slowly in order to accommodate more steps; the music is de-gutted at that point as a result.

But then you might like both pieces!....


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AEHandley

04-06-02, 11:04 PM (GMT)
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9. "RE: OK, next question? BRB's Carmina Burana & Powder"
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   IME Mozart and ballet just don't mix. I can't quite put my finger on why; I think that precise, classical or baroque music just doesn't need the visuals and it's hard not to end up with trite, exercise/syllabus type steps to such taut classicism. THere has to be a reason why ballet as we know it didn't get going till the style of music changed!


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Terry Amos

04-06-02, 07:38 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: OK, next question? BRB's Carmina Burana & Powder"
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   Please do go to see BRB in Edinburgh if you can manage it. I think the company would like to go to Scotland regularly as they used to not so very long ago. This wont happen if they canít get a good audience.

Personally, I find Powder a lot of tosh but the dancers look good in it and it is pleasant enough to sit through. I enjoy Carmina a lot. It is very lively and needs lots of energy, especially from the men. It usually gets a terrific response from audiences.

I think it might be difficult to get any definite news of casting at the moment. Last week in Bradford, quite a few dancers were injured and itís the end of the season when you usually find lots of dancers are off. So nobody can be sure who will be available three weeks from now.

However, you might like to know the casts used in Birmingham, which could be a pointer for Edinburgh.

Powder has 14 dancers and there were two casts. The first was Smolen, Tredinnick, Vallo, Jimenez, Sakuma, Peppin, Walters, Helimets, Mackay, Antonucci, Parker, Cao, Pobereznic and Norman-Wright. The second was Vallo, Marr, McMeekan, Millar, Lo Sardo, Tamaccio, Paul, Revie, Crawford, Payn, Kopinski, Monteith, Grundy and Gravenor.

For Carmina Burana, there were three casts. The leading dancers in the first cast were Muller, Walters, Sakuma, Cross, Parker, Mackay; in the second, Batcheller, Peppin, Muller, Yamamoto, Pobereznic, Cipolla; in the third, Jimenez, Vallo, Marr, Kopinski, Revie, Antonucci. Muller, Batcheller and Cipolla are guest artists nowadays and I guess wont be seen in Scotland. Smolen, Marr and Helimets are possible replacements.

In my opinion, the first casts for both ballets were the best, as you could guess from the dancers involved. But the others are good.


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