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AnnWilliams

25-04-02, 10:45 AM (GMT)
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"An antique 'Fille'"
 
   The thread about the mime in 'La Fille mal Gardee' set me thinking about the various Filles I've seen over the years, and one that flits in and out of my memory is a genuine 'antique' version seen at Sadlers about, I think, six or seven years ago (which probably means it was more like eleven or twelve years ago). I think it was by a Belgian company. It was adorable, a faithful reconstruction of what the ballet must have looked and sounded like when it was first created in the nineteenth(?) century. The Alain figure wasn't a fool in this version, just a vain conceited fop, but it was his father who was the most memorable character, a prissy, fastidious old man with prissy, fastidious steps to match - a subtly comic figure indeed.

Does anyone remember this, and the name of the company?


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: An antique 'Fille' katharine kanter 25-04-02 1
     RE: An antique 'Fille' David L 26-04-02 4
  RE: An antique 'Fille' Jane S 25-04-02 2
     RE: An antique 'Fille' Renee Renouf Hall 25-04-02 3
         RE: An antique 'Fille' katharine kanter 26-04-02 5
             RE: An antique 'Fille' AnnWilliams 26-04-02 6
     RE: An antique 'Fille' alison 26-04-02 7
         RE: An antique 'Fille' Brendan McCarthymoderator 26-04-02 8
             RE: An antique 'Fille' AnnWilliams 26-04-02 9

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katharine kanter

25-04-02, 12:18 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: An antique 'Fille'"
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   LAST EDITED ON 25-04-02 AT 02:02 PM (GMT)

Ann,

I have a feeling that "La Fille", in its original version, dates from just before the French Revolution. I haven't seen the production you refer to, but it sounds like the reconstruction by Ivor Guest, a Swedish ballet master, who must be in his seventies by now.


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David L

26-04-02, 00:00 AM (GMT)
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4. "RE: An antique 'Fille'"
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>Ann,
>
>I have a feeling that "La
>Fille", in its original version,
>dates from just before the
>French Revolution. I haven't
>seen the production you refer
>to, but it sounds like
>the reconstruction by Ivor Guest,
>a Swedish ballet master, who
>must be in his seventies
>by now.


With respect, dear Katharine, I believe you are thinking of Ivo Cramer.

Ivor Guest is a British dance historian, whose publisher I am proud to be.


David.


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Jane S

25-04-02, 04:15 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: An antique 'Fille'"
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   It was the Ballet du Rhin, I think (based in Mulhouse in France) - but I don't have my programme here to check the details - I'll look it up tomorrow if no-one else does it first.


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Renee Renouf Hall

25-04-02, 04:26 PM (GMT)
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   Dauberval's La Fille Mal Gardee was created in Bordeaux in 1789, and I think the premiere was literally days before le quatorze juilliet or the storming of the Bastille. His Lise was his wife Mlle Theodore. Ivor Guest in his wonderful work Ballet of the
Enlightenment gives an account of it.

Carlos Carvajal, a ballet master and choreographer who lives in San Francisco, danced and choreographed in Bordeaux for two years following the dissolution of the de Cuevas company. He said that he would swear some of the original costumes are still extant, and he was quite aware he was dancing in one of the old Opera Houses in France. It would be intriguing to determine just what documents and costumes do exist there in one of the heartlands of
French wines. When you follow the plot and think of the location, it's such a logical tie in with an agricultural/viticultural society.


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katharine kanter

26-04-02, 09:17 AM (GMT)
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5. "RE: An antique 'Fille'"
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   DAvid,

You're absolutely right ! Senility is creeping up, or rather galloping...

But we still haven't figured out whether Ann saw the Cramer version.


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AnnWilliams

26-04-02, 09:54 AM (GMT)
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6. "RE: An antique 'Fille'"
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   Katharine -
I have a feeling that Jane is right, and that it was Ballet du Rhin. We'll wait and see when she looks out her programme.

Whatever, I would pay good money to see this version of 'Fille' again. It wasn't remotely like what we would think of as classical ballet today - much more like a pastoral pantomime with quite a lot of dancing. I loved it.


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alison

26-04-02, 01:18 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: An antique 'Fille'"
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   I thought the company, whichever it was, was based more around Metz/Nancy, and Ballet du Rhin doesn't sound right to me. Was it Ballet du Nord or something? My memory's got a hole in it just at the wrong point. I know that for some reason or other I didn't go to see it, and ended up really regretting it.


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Brendan McCarthymoderator

26-04-02, 01:38 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: An antique 'Fille'"
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   LAST EDITED ON 26-04-02 AT 02:55 PM (GMT)

See http://www.opera-national-du-rhin.com/saison2001-02Ang/danse/repertoire/fillemalgardee.htm


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AnnWilliams

26-04-02, 02:39 PM (GMT)
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9. "RE: An antique 'Fille'"
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   Brendan, you genius! That's exactly it. Some idea of the feel of the work can be got from the costume the woman in the picture is wearing, and the fact that she is dancing in heeled shoes - everyone wore heeled shoes, even the men.

How do we set about enticing the Ballet du Rhin to bring this lovely work over here again?


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