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Bruceadmin

12-04-02, 10:35 AM (GMT)
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"RB Carmen Bill"
 
   Somebody must have seen this! How's it looking? I'm there tomorrow and looking forward to it....


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: RB Carmen Bill Robert 12-04-02 1
     RE: RB Carmen Bill Virginia 12-04-02 2
         RE: RB Carmen Bill alison 12-04-02 3
             RE: RB Carmen Bill Virginia 12-04-02 4
                 RE: RB Carmen Bill Paul A 12-04-02 6
             RE: RB Carmen Bill Lynette H 12-04-02 5
                 RE: RB Carmen Bill Tomoko.A 12-04-02 7
                     RE: RB Carmen Bill Pete 12-04-02 8
                         RE: RB Carmen Bill Tomoko.A 12-04-02 9
                             RE: RB Carmen Bill Viviane 14-04-02 10
                             RE: RB Carmen Bill Brendan McCarthymoderator 14-04-02 11
                             RE: RB Carmen Bill Viviane 14-04-02 12
                             RE: RB Carmen Bill Robert 15-04-02 13
                             RE: Video of Por Vos Muero rama 23-10-02 46
                             RE: Video of Por Vos Muero alison 23-10-02 47
                             RE: Video of Por Vos Muero Viviane 23-10-02 49
                             RE: Video of Por Vos Muero alison 23-10-02 48
  RE: RB Carmen Bill alinaromania 15-04-02 14
  RE: RB Carmen Bill Jane S 16-04-02 15
     RE: RB Carmen Bill Shirley 17-04-02 16
         RE: RB Carmen Bill Bruce Madmin 17-04-02 17
             RE: RB Carmen Bill AnnWilliams 17-04-02 18
         RE: RB Carmen Bill AnnaM 17-04-02 19
             RE: RB Carmen Bill Jim 17-04-02 20
                 RE: RB Carmen Bill AnnaM 17-04-02 21
                     RE: RB Carmen Bill Robert 17-04-02 22
                         RE: RB Carmen Bill Robert 17-04-02 23
                             RE: RB Carmen Bill Paul A 18-04-02 24
                             RE: RB Carmen Bill Robert 19-04-02 25
                             RE: RB Carmen Bill Paul A 19-04-02 26
                             RE: RB Carmen Bill sylvia 20-04-02 27
                             RE: RB Carmen Bill Cathryn 22-04-02 28
                             RE: RB Carmen Bill sylvia 22-04-02 29
                             RE: RB Carmen Bill alison 22-04-02 30
                             RE: RB Carmen Bill sylvia 24-04-02 31
                             RE: RB Carmen Bill sylvia 24-04-02 32
                             Tamara Rojo in Carmen Bruceadmin 25-04-02 33
                             RE: Tamara Rojo in Carmen Robert 25-04-02 34
                             RE: Tamara Rojo in Carmen Lily 25-04-02 35
                             RE: Tamara Rojo in Carmen alison 26-04-02 36
                             RE: Tamara Rojo in Carmen Brendan McCarthymoderator 26-04-02 39
                             RE: RB Carmen Bill alison 26-04-02 37
                             RE: RB Carmen Bill sylvia 26-04-02 38
                             Standbys alison 26-04-02 40
                             RE: Standbys Paul A 26-04-02 41
                             RE: Standbys sylvia 26-04-02 42
                             RE: Standbys alison 29-04-02 44
                             RE: Standbys David M 28-04-02 43
                             RE: Standbys vivian2 29-04-02 45
                             ****This thread not for discussion of Gong/Tryst/Carmen ****... Brendan McCarthymoderator 23-10-02 50

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Robert

12-04-02, 10:50 AM (GMT)
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1. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   Not seen it yet but slightly annoyed that if I had not bothered to book up, in advance I could have used the cheap seat/glass of champagne offer that dropped into my email box twice yesterday!


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Virginia

12-04-02, 12:14 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   I went on Wednesday, but was feeling a bit shy of saying anything before the rest of you had a go! I enjoyed myself - I did book in advance but still got the free champagne & programme - and so did the friend I took, who is not particularly a ballet fan. I found In the Middle less exciting than when I saw it at the Enduring Images rehearsal, though Nunez was very good. Not sure whether this cast lacked energy, or whether it's just seeing this ballet several times. I did enjoy the final pas de deux very much, and I do love the way Forsyth makes such strong choreography - in his hands dancing on pointe isn't about delicacy and ethereality, it's about steel.

As for Por Vos Muero, I know it's been rejected by the critics, but I rather like it - it creates its Revenge Tragedy atmosphere very effectively, and after -In the Middle- it's fun to have something which suggests narrative. And I enjoy the music & the poetry which do generate lots of feeling. This time I had a programme, so could read the translations, but I think I'd got the gist the first time.

Carmen was much the best thing about the evening. Dramatic, funny, well-danced. Such wonderful music - and after 2 ballets to tapes, lovely to hear live musicians. I didn't understand the polka-dot sets, but they didn't seem to matter much. I thought Guillem was wonderful, sexy, powerful, fluid and spiky at the same time, Murru excellently sad, and Cope brilliant (and funny) as Escamillo, hugely enjoying himself. And Yanowsky as M had some wonderful flowing movement which she did beautifully. I don't know if it was meant to be funny, but there were funny bits, and I enjoyed the choreography on the whole, very different but interesting and expressive. Only there were times when it seemed the movement undercut rather than heightened the mood, so that the intensity of feeling which Guillem, Murru & Cope seemed to be building up so effectively in various scenes, was undermined rather than pushed to the limit.

What did other people think?

Virginia
Did anyone else think the Evening Standard review odd, saying
"The Opera House is buzzing: three "new", "advanced" ballets have arrived after what seems like months of dying maidens in tutus. By the end of the evening the audience was shell-shocked, but this is more a comment on their regular fare than what was actually on stage."
Since 2 of the 3 pieces had been playing in the previous bill, and Forsyth is hardly new to RB audiences anyway, I thought this comment bizarre! And (as part of the audience on Wednesday) I didn't come out shell-shocked, and didn't notice anyone else who fitted that description!


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alison

12-04-02, 01:40 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   >I enjoyed myself - I
>did book in advance but
>still got the free champagne
>& programme

Was that the one for which they attached vouchers at the bottom of the letter enclosing the period 4 booking form, or have I missed out on something?!

>Did anyone else think the Evening
>Standard review odd, saying
>"The Opera House is buzzing: three
>"new", "advanced" ballets have arrived
>after what seems like months
>of dying maidens in tutus.
>By the end of the
>evening the audience was shell-shocked,
>but this is more a
>comment on their regular fare
>than what was actually on
>stage."

I wasn't there, but did hear that a few people walked out ...

>Since 2 of the 3 pieces
>had been playing in the
>previous bill, and Forsyth is
>hardly new to RB audiences
>anyway, I thought this comment
>bizarre!

Weird, but that seems to be part of the new critic's "take" on the Royal Ballet.


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Virginia

12-04-02, 04:21 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   >Was that the one for which they attached vouchers at the
>bottom of the letter enclosing the period 4 booking form,
>or have I missed out on something?!

Yes I think so - I'd already got tickets via a friend when it arrived.

>>By the end of the evening the audience was shell-shocked,
>>but this is more a comment on their regular fare
>>than what was actually on stage."
>
>I wasn't there, but did hear that a few people walked out ...

Really?! I didn't see that! Do you know which ballet they walked out from?

Virginia


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Paul A

12-04-02, 04:29 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   Do you know which ballet they
>walked out from?
>
People certainly clanked out of "In the Middle.." when it was new here in 1992. But judging by the reviews it sounds now to have lost some of its crackle.

Expect a vicarious review next week - my wife will be there but I won't get to it myself.



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Lynette H

12-04-02, 04:26 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   I didn't see anyone walk out, but there seemed to be a number of people who decided to sit the Forsythe out - I don't think they were late, it seemed more of a deliberate choice.

In the Middle not as strongly danced as earlier this year (Yanowsky and Kobborg excepted). Thought Nunez slightly tentative - but then this is her first appearance after injury.

Por Vos was pleasant but unexciting and Christopher Bruce does this sort of thing rather better, with more human warmth and less portenousness.

I liked the Carmen more than I have other works by Mats Ek (liked his Giselle: didn't enjoy his Swan Lake at all). Guillem was very striking, and Ek's style sits well on her body. Not a particularly touching work though - I'm sure we are meant to sympathise more with Jose than we actually do. The cast worked their socks off but overall the evening isn't a successful mix.


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Tomoko.A

12-04-02, 06:23 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   Can anyone let me know the running time of this mixed programme ?
According to Sylvie in The Telegraph interview, Carmen lasts about 45 minutes ? I need to know in advance what time the whole bill finishes when it starts at 7:30 pm. Thanks.


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Pete

12-04-02, 07:26 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   According to the casting sheet, the bill finishes at around 10.05pm (plus 10% tip for curtain calls etc.), so around 10.10pm-10.15pm.


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Tomoko.A

12-04-02, 11:07 PM (GMT)
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9. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   Thanks Pete ! I can catch a 10:35 train. That's a relief.


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Viviane

14-04-02, 08:34 PM (GMT)
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10. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   Well, I suppose you're all speechless and recovering from the shock ???


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Brendan McCarthymoderator

14-04-02, 08:56 PM (GMT)
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11. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   Clement Crisp was spot-on. I have to say I found Carmen one of the most unutterably tedious hours of theatre I have had to endure for a very long time. Whether I would have thought better of the work had it been designed by someone other than Ek's longtime collaborator Marie-Louise Ekman, I'm not sure. But once the curtain goes up and it's 'that look' again, my heart sinks.

But I'm more and more impressed by Por Vos Muero and hope to come back to this subject at the end of the month.....


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Viviane

14-04-02, 09:15 PM (GMT)
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12. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   LAST EDITED ON 14-04-02 AT 09:17 PM (GMT)

Thanks Brendan,
I think I've made the right decision not to travel to UK to see
Guillem with a cigar...instead I went to see the future of ballet

I have 'Por Vos Muero' on video and it's one of the gems I cherish...hope to hear you at the end of the month !


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Robert

15-04-02, 03:55 PM (GMT)
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13. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   I wish I had sat the Forsythe out, anything would have been better than listening to such an unpleasant racket broadcast over loudspeakers. The Duarte was quite nice in a Rambert sort of way. Rambert would I believe have provided live music, Mark Morris certainly would. Incidentally some of the original dances done to the music are more interesting than Duartes.
I enjoyed Carmen, and was pleased to hear good live music. It is original and interesting and very well danced. I was not sure of the set but we must be thankfull for small mercies. I thought I saw vague visions of the Ballet Joos perhaps someone who remembers them might correct me.


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rama

23-10-02, 12:38 PM (GMT)
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46. "RE: Video of Por Vos Muero"
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   >LAST EDITED ON 14-04-02
>AT 09:17†PM (GMT)

>
>Thanks Brendan,
>I think I've made the right
>decision not to travel to
>UK to see
>Guillem with a cigar...instead I went
>to see the future of
>ballet
>
>I have 'Por Vos Muero' on
>video and it's one of
>the gems I cherish...hope to
>hear you at the end
>of the month !

- re your video of 'Por Vos Muero' - can you let an Australian fan of the work know where he can buy a copy and have sent down under?

Thanks

Ian


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alison

23-10-02, 01:12 PM (GMT)
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47. "RE: Video of Por Vos Muero"
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   I saw it the other day - it's a "Three works by Duato"-type thing, and I think danced by his company. Can't offhand remember what the other two works were, but I seem to remember that Jardi Tancat wasn't among them. You could always ask Dance Books (URL in the Links section).


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Viviane

23-10-02, 01:17 PM (GMT)
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49. "RE: Video of Por Vos Muero"
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   Ian,
"Por Vos Muero", "Duende" and "Arenal" is available on DVD called "Three by Duato" through Amazon.com
Don't miss the great reviews on Amazon about it !


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alison

23-10-02, 01:12 PM (GMT)
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48. "RE: Video of Por Vos Muero"
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   I saw it the other day - it's a "Three works by Duato"-type thing, and I think danced by his company. Can't offhand remember what the other two works were, but I seem to remember that Jardi Tancat wasn't among them. You could always ask Dance Books (URL in the Links section).


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alinaromania

15-04-02, 06:23 PM (GMT)
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14. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   Wait for Tamara.

CC's right except that ITM confirms
that the rest of Ross's EuroBabble
is there for a reason.

Darcey is still brilliant 10 years
on, and the rest of the troupe is
now up there with her.


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Jane S

16-04-02, 11:00 PM (GMT)
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15. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   Well, this was something I haven't seen before: at the end of Carmen tonight Guillem was presented with a tree, several inches taller than her and with its roots wrapped up in black polythene, ready for planting. Fortunately she didn't have to hold it whilst taking her bows. (My husband says it was an orange tree.)


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Shirley

17-04-02, 06:45 AM (GMT)
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16. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   It was actually a cherry tree ( I only know because it was at the stage door before the show).


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Bruce Madmin

17-04-02, 09:13 AM (GMT)
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17. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   Flowers being so passe these days, I must look out that old Fordson tractor that Tamara and I have often talked of and I know she lusts after....


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AnnWilliams

17-04-02, 11:22 AM (GMT)
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18. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   Jim - Own up, now. It was you who sent Sylvie that cherry tree, wasn't it?


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AnnaM

17-04-02, 11:30 AM (GMT)
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19. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   >It was actually a cherry tree ( I only know because
>it was at the stage door before the show).

A cherry tree?!
Is she supposed to hang herself from it or what?
Come on!
I am sure they had best of intentions, it being a symbolic and sweet gesture and all, but how much MORE impractical can you get?!
As much as she travels, a cherry tree does not qualify as hand luggage exactly. Talk about getting carried away...

But then again maybe Tamara with her brand new tractor could help her haul it across Europe!


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Jim

17-04-02, 12:09 PM (GMT)
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20. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   >A cherry tree?!
>Is she supposed to hang herself
>from it or what?

She loves cherry blossom.


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AnnaM

17-04-02, 12:20 PM (GMT)
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21. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   >She loves cherry blossom.
Apologies Jim, if I stepped on your toes. It was not meant literaly.


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Robert

17-04-02, 01:44 PM (GMT)
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22. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   Re Sylvie
Someone should have sent her a tobacco plant!
Jim you still have not owned up!


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Robert

17-04-02, 01:51 PM (GMT)
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23. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   Re Carmen
Artsworld are broadcasting Matt Ek's Carmen tonight(Wed) and tomorrow afternoon. I do not think it is the RB version, but it is proceeded with a programme on Matt Ek, which could be interesting.


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Paul A

18-04-02, 08:17 AM (GMT)
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24. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   Some thoughts from my wife (I didn't see the performance):

- what a pleasure to see three ballets where the woman is not manipulated as an object.

- what a beautiful line Bussell has (my wife spotted her in the corps in the late 80s before she became a star).

- in Por Vos Muero, impossible to judge whether the near naked bodies were male or female, they were so emaciated. Horrible.

- Guillem not convincing as Carmen: her body ugly and scrawny. A very internalised performance.


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Robert

19-04-02, 00:57 AM (GMT)
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25. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   Darcy Bussell may have a beautiful line but the canned soundtrack was terrible, I just felt sorry for her. At least the Matt Ek had decent music.


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Paul A

19-04-02, 08:18 AM (GMT)
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26. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   Robert agree. When I saw In the Middle when the RB first acquired it I thought - why? The performance style and the top down lighting obscured the dancers' individuality and personality.

To me it was a denial of the RB's classical heritage though I appreciate I'm missing something here. The friend who saw the performance this week with my wife thought it a fusion of what she imagined ballet and contemporary dance to be about.


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sylvia

20-04-02, 02:38 AM (GMT)
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27. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   LAST EDITED ON 20-04-02 AT 03:02 AM (GMT)

I went into Carmen on Friday half-expecting it to be a wasted evening since the first 2 ballets were seen recently and I'm not a huge fan of Mats Ek. But I was pleasantly surprised. I enjoyed Carmen enormously. It shrugged off my jetlag and had me captivated the whole way through. Sylvie is beyond fantastic. Her Carmen doesn't seem so much a woman or even human, but more an animal or spider the way she uses her long limbs and predates on men. She comes across as very sexy and very powerful.

Massimo Murru I had a hard time picking out near the beginning but his despair was hilarious and very touching. Jonathan Copeís Escamillo made me laugh aloud. His grand entrance in bronze lame, the way he shakes his bonbon for a good 60 seconds at the audience and struts around the stage has to be seen to be believed. I was sitting at the front of the amphitheatre so I couldnít really see, but was he doing this with a straight face?

The choreography IS ugly. The positions Carmen strikes are horrible but so humorous it doesnít make me cringe the way say some of MacMillanís stuff does. It's original and fascinating and the emotions and drama get across, though admittedly I didnít have a clue what was going on for most of the ballet. Guess I should have read the programme notes. The business with Carmen dragging scarves out of Jose and Escamillo from leaves a lot to the imagination! Still the beautiful music pulls it through (will we ever get to see Roland Petitís version?) and everything clicks into place at the end. The portable Swiss cheese sets and the stunning super-garish costumes only add to the humour. I really have to give full marks to the dancers because they looked so confident in themselves in a style that must be so new to them. Hearing them shouting was so strange, and must have been even stranger for them. Definitely not Royal Ballet and to be truthful I can only take Ek in small doses, but a fun ride for me. Lord help us if Stretton really does invite Ek back to create something for our dancers. I canít wait to see what Tamara Rojo makes of the role.

In the middle was excellent Ė Zenaida Yanowsky especially and I havenít tired of it yet. I canít really say the same for Por Vos Muero. I can sort of see why critics find it so shallow. Itís still very beautiful and I love the first big group number, but itís less enjoyable with subsequent viewings. The ballet doesnít really hold attention and I found myself drifting halfway. The poor lighting in both had me squinting for most of the way trying to pick out dancers. Still I thought this triple bill as a whole was the most interesting mix of ballets so far in the season.


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Cathryn

22-04-02, 10:32 AM (GMT)
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28. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   I actually really enjoyed all three ballets, which wasn't what I expected. I loved 'in the middle' - it was so different to everything else i'd ever seen before by the royal ballet. the start is so dramataic and impactful. i was sat in the v.v. cheap seats with several people who had never been to the ballet before and they loved it. darcey was fabulous and was surrounded by some amazing dancers as well.
'por vos muero' i also enjoyed, mainly due to the music, which was just beautiful. i also though zenaida yanowsky (apologies for dodgy spelling) was fabulous. i've never been a big fan of hers but she was breathtaking.
carmen -hmmm. music is wonderful, sylvie was certainly dramatic - great dress!! the choreography was pretty ugly in places, but the sight of Jonathan Cope in lame shaking his bum was worth the price of the ticket alone!!
but all in all, it was a fab night - i saw a whole new side to ballet that night and it was great!


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sylvia

22-04-02, 10:45 AM (GMT)
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29. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   I remember seeing that next season's Carmen has a school matinee. If a few kisses between Romeo and Juliet earns roars and hoots then I can't imagine what their reaction will be to this production!


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alison

22-04-02, 01:47 PM (GMT)
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30. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   Alternatively, perhaps they'll cut it? I seem to remember that they did that with a bill containing The Judas Tree a few years ago.

I was there on Friday as well: thought I'd seen the RB do In the Middle somewhat better in the past - it did feel a bit tame, overall. I think it was Katharine who was upset at one of the critics complaining that it wasn't dangerous enough, but I can see what s/he means, now, I think. It's not that you want any of the dancers to put themselves at risk of injury, but I did feel that a lot of them were playing just a little too safe. It seems to me that it needs to be danced with such attack that you feel there's a chance of someone at least falling off point.

Por Vos Muero looked better from lower down in the house than it did from the amphitheatre, but I'm still not that impressed with it. I'm starting to wonder if Jardi Tancat, the first work I saw by Duato, was a one-off in terms of my liking his work. However, I'm not sure why, but I was really quite taken with Carmen (having seen it on TV before I suppose the shock was a little muted). I particularly noticed Vanessa Palmer, as one of the supporting girls, who seemed to be having a whale of a time (must be all those harlots she's danced in Romeo and Juliet preparing her for it), and I shall be interested to see what Rojo makes of the lead role this week.


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sylvia

24-04-02, 02:55 AM (GMT)
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31. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   LAST EDITED ON 24-04-02 AT 09:32 AM (GMT)

Carmen on 23/4 was wonderful! Tamara Rojo as the seductress herself, Thomas Whitehead as Jose and Bennett Gartside as Escamillo, all so very different from 1st cast but absolutely no doubt they were just as good. Again they seem to really throw themselves into the choreography and dance with so much enthusiasm and conviction. Tamara's great! Really sexy and exotic with her dark hair against the bright red dress, arresting from the moment she ran on and started screaming on stage. Thomas Whitehead impressed me to no end. I thought he made an even better and more vulnerable Jose than Murru, equalling Tamara in spite of Jose's wimpier status. So I'll definitely be looking out for him in future performances. And I enjoyed the wierd choreography even more this 2nd time. Bizet's music is fantastic of course, and I think Ek has used it so well. And I love the sets, the gigantic bullet-ridden fan, enormous silver ball and all.

The size of the audience was a but concerning! I think it was only half-full, the emptiest I've ever seen the auditorium and so depressing. It's a shame triple bills don't seem to sell well without Sylvie Guillem's name attached. I think it's worth seeing for Carmen and it's 2nd cast alone.


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sylvia

24-04-02, 03:00 AM (GMT)
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32. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   BTW, does anyone know what happened in In the Middle? Rather confusing the way Roberto Bolle seemed to substitute for Edward Watson half-way especially since Watson was dancing in PVM and Carmen later.

And does anyone remember who the other 2 substitutions were? Thanks!


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Bruceadmin

25-04-02, 07:59 AM (GMT)
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33. "Tamara Rojo in Carmen"
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   I got to see Tamara in Carmen last night - wonderful, wonderful dancing full of wit and passion. I dearly love Guillem, but Tamara inhabits this role the better I think.

I do like the Ek as well - not for any stupidity with the story (and it is stupidly really) but for its quality of movement. Just stunning in its quirkiness and physical displaying of inner thoughts and turmoil. Yanowsky also looked stunning and she needs to be fed good stuff or she will shortly go.

Carmen got an awful lot of applause at the end and I'm really pleased it is coming back next season. The place was only half full, though perhaps that's more a reflection on the other two pieces having been seen already and not being so admired. It's got to he point where I just decided to turn up for the EK - Middle has lost much power and the Duato capering is pleasant the once. The Ek I can mine for years.

I always remember Tamara and Ek because I interviewed her a few years ago (when she was starting to make a name at ENB, after dancing in Scottish Ballet) and she talked about Ek's work, though from the sidelines and hoping that at some time she may get the opportunity to work with him. I've just looked it up...

"I would love to do Mats Ek. A great choreographer and I always, always wanted to go off and work with him. He doesn't even know me, but maybe one day I will be able to do it. Hope so. He is very modern in the steps and in the way of using your body - he makes you move EVERYTHING!"

And last night it was lovely to see her moving the 'everything' (including cigar!).

My old interview is here if you are interested:
http://www.ballet.co.uk/may98/interview_tamara_rojo.htm
We also have the recent BA/David Bain interview as well:
http://www.ballet.co.uk/magazines/yr_02/apr02/interview_rojo.htm


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Robert

25-04-02, 05:47 PM (GMT)
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34. "RE: Tamara Rojo in Carmen"
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   Perhaps people realise that the music for most of the evening is canned!
PS It is only worth going for the EK.


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Lily

25-04-02, 07:43 PM (GMT)
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35. "RE: Tamara Rojo in Carmen"
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   Does anyone know whether the music for Por Vos Muero and that fab version of Carmen is available on CD?

It was brilliant. I thought I'd treat my somewhat stuffy by fantastic old dad to a night of modern ballet and he, somewhat surprisingly, thought that Carmen was one of the best things he had ever seen - laughed his head of in parts.

Jenny Tattersall really stood out in the Ek - it would be good to see her in bigger roles in the more modern rep!

Long live Ek's Carmen!


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alison

26-04-02, 12:55 PM (GMT)
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36. "RE: Tamara Rojo in Carmen"
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   I forgot to check in the programme, but I think the music is Rodion Schehedrin's (sp?) Carmen Suite, isn't it, in which case I'm sure it'll be available on CD.


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Brendan McCarthymoderator

26-04-02, 01:24 PM (GMT)
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39. "RE: Tamara Rojo in Carmen"
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   LAST EDITED ON 26-04-02 AT 01:25 PM (GMT)

Rodion Shchedrin's Carmen Suite will feature in this year's Proms. For details see Prom 39 8.00 pm, Sunday 18th August (scroll down the page - there are two Proms on the 18th).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms/whatson/dailyevents/1808.shtml


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alison

26-04-02, 01:05 PM (GMT)
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37. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   Half-full and they *still* weren't offering standbys? I'm getting very annoyed about this. How do they expect to encourage new audiences if students and the like can't get in cheaply when there are plenty of seats available? I understand that there was a "2 for the price of 1" offer, but I wonder how many people entitled to standbys actually turn up in pairs? I know that in the days of the standby queue before the House closed most people seemed to turn up on their own. The lack of audience might also to some extent have been due to lack of publicity over casting - I don't imagine that casual visitors bother checking on the website.

But anyway, I digress. What struck me quite forcefully in both Carmens' performances was that they felt a little too nice and clean for my liking. I'd expected something a little more ... sordid, perhaps, but I can't remember from seeing it on TV whether that was an accurate expectation or not. Possibly it was just due to the costumes, but I thought that both of them, with their hair curled, obviously new, bright red, flouncy dresses and a red flower in their hair, looked rather too much like young girls off to a party or perhaps to their first ballet at the ROH! Perhaps the costumes need a little gentle "distressing".


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sylvia

26-04-02, 01:17 PM (GMT)
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38. "RE: RB Carmen Bill"
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   Alison, I didn't check if they had student standbys but the top price seats were reduced to about £25 so I guessed they were available. I didn't much like the 2 for 1 offer either. I did notice that the seats in the stalls filled out quite a bit before Carmen. I don't know if this was just people moving down from other seats or a lot of people decided to come for Carmen alone. Sylvie seemed to get quite a bit of publicity, though to tell you the truth I wouldn't have seen much of it if it weren't for this board. I think it's such a shame that Tamara wasn't publicised as well - I thought she was a star in herself - she would have been a big enough draw to pull in bigger audiences.


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alison

26-04-02, 01:31 PM (GMT)
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40. "Standbys"
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   >Alison, I didn't check if they
>had student standbys but the
>top price seats were reduced
>to about £25 so I
>guessed they were available.

If only the ROH were that consistent, Sylvia! Unfortunately, it wouldn't by any means be the first time that they've had plenty of seats to spare, had effectively half-price offers on top tickets but refused to do standbys. The blurb in the booking leaflet says that standbys "are sold at the Management's discretion and are not always available", but the way things are going I think "are hardly ever available" would be more accurate. It hardly helps broaden people's horizons - I'd go and see most things for £12.50 or £15, but frankly I'm not interested in going to see the Duke Bluebeard/Erwartung opera bill for £45 or whatever it was they were offering. I think that since the House reopened I've had perhaps 3 standbys out of them, and 2 of them were for performances where there were far fewer empty seats than there have been for either the Cross Cultures or Enduring Images bills. I didn't think to check the Friends offer line in time for Carmen, but I suspect from past experience that there wouldn't have been anything on that either, although someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not planning on renewing either of my standby entitlements when they expire ...


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Paul A

26-04-02, 01:42 PM (GMT)
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41. "RE: Standbys"
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standbys "are sold
>at the Management's discretion and
>are not always available", but
>the way things are going
>I think "are hardly ever
>available" would be more accurate.

Sounds as though the days of making a cash offer literally on curtain up are over. They used to accept anything rather than not sell a seat.

May be worth a try if you have enough front!


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sylvia

26-04-02, 03:31 PM (GMT)
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42. "RE: Standbys"
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   I agree it's a little bizarre! I managed to get standbys for Onegin back in December but failed in everything else. But student friends of mine had the opportunity to quiz some of the senior staff about the lack of student prices and student standbys and they were just adamant that they would avoid it at all costs. Part of me can't blame them. They know how sneaky the regulars can be at zeroing in on less than popular performances and casts and that some of us are comfortable to wait to see if standbys become available, and they won't risk it and we just shouldn't wait in hope. Still I can't help grousing!


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alison

29-04-02, 01:19 PM (GMT)
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44. "RE: Standbys"
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   Yes, Onegin was the only ballet standby I've had since the House reopened, I think. I can't see the logic of their thinking at all. So what happens? If standbys aren't on offer, the customers either don't bother buying tickets at all, or they go for seats at cheaper than standby prices. (Whether they stay there or not may be another matter). Either way, the ROH loses out on income, which doesn't strike me as being very responsible in an organisation that gets around £20m public subsidy. There are, I'd estimate, somewhere in the region of 20,000 Friends of Covent Garden, all paying upwards (sometimes very considerably upwards!) of £60 per head for, among other things, the possibility to get standbys, only these no longer appear to be forthcoming. Perhaps we should start a whole new thread on this point ...


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David M

28-04-02, 09:36 PM (GMT)
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43. "RE: Standbys"
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   Hello,

When i was getting tickets for the Wednesday evening performance on the Wednesday morning , the box office was very helpfull, advising myself that the auditorium was only going to be 60% full.

They suggested I buy the cheapest ticket available,( I got three in the Upper Slips), then when we attended the performance that evening , see what seats were empty ( and there were a lot of them i can assure you)and basically upgrade .

We did.

David


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vivian2

29-04-02, 10:04 PM (GMT)
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45. "RE: Standbys"
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when will they realise that audiences want what they want and cannot be reeducated like a bunch of kids


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Brendan McCarthymoderator

23-10-02, 01:26 PM (GMT)
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50. "****This thread not for discussion of Gong/Tryst/Carmen *******"
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   This is an old thread and not for discussion of the triple bill that opened on 22nd October. Thoughts about that programme on a new thread please!


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