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David M

25-03-02, 07:23 PM (GMT)
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"What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
 
   Hello,

With the 2002/2003 Royal Ballet programme soon to be announced , I was wondering what contributers to Ballet.Co would choose if they could nominate either

1)A full length classical ballet

2)A one act ballet

3)A ballet based on a particular film/book/play/poem etc, which has yet to be created.

which would be performed by the company in the coming season.

This subject may have been covered previously, If so I apoligise, but i thought it may be a bit of fun for people like myself who have only just started to use Ballet.Co

Plus who knows , it may be read by the ballet office at the ROH,and they just might take note of any suggestions if there was enough support for one particular work.

The only criterea required for the nominated works is that they must not have been danced before by the Royal Ballet.


I will kick off proceedings with my own choices.

Classical ballet - Le Corsaire.


I know i hear some of you groan but i think it is a great fun romp of a ballet. I think there are six good central roles for the dancers, giving ample opportunity to see lots of differant dancers in various roles, the whole company can be used to good effect , and I am sure it would put bums on seats , which in these times of economic hardship at the ROH counts for a lot.Plus my last reason for wanting this ballet staged is quite simple, i really enjoy it.

One act ballet - Western Symphony / by Balanchine.

I have two differant casts from NYCB on video performing this ballet and i never fail to " Come Home Happy and Smiling " after watching either of the two copies.

The ballet requires some amazing virtuoso dancing,it is extreemely funny and amusing , the music is well known and has a feel good factor about it. PLUS again i really enjoy it.

My last choice ,

A ballet based on a film / book / play / poem etc which has yet to be created.

My choice would be based on the film - Moulin Rouge.

The mind boggles with what could be done here , the possibilities are endless.

The sets, costumes, great music,fantasy,spectacle, usual ballet story in that some one has to die, is all there and the possibilities for the choreography are mind blowing.


It may even help attract that elusive new audiance that is always being talked about and looked for when you mention ballet.

I look forward to hearing anyone elses choices if you care to answer.

Tace Care

David


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  RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... Richard Jones 26-03-02 1
     RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... gd 26-03-02 2
         RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... Tim Powell 26-03-02 4
         RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... alison 26-03-02 6
     RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... MAB 26-03-02 3
         RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... meunier 26-03-02 5
             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... Paul A 26-03-02 7
                 RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... Robert 26-03-02 8
                     RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... Paul A 26-03-02 9
                         RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... Robert 26-03-02 10
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... tortie14 26-03-02 11
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... Paul A 27-03-02 12
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... trogadmin 27-03-02 13
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... Bex 27-03-02 14
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... Paul A 27-03-02 15
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... AEHandley 27-03-02 16
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... Paul A 27-03-02 17
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... AEHandley 27-03-02 18
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... MAB 28-03-02 19
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... AEHandley 28-03-02 20
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... Paul A 28-03-02 21
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... tortie14 28-03-02 22
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... AEHandley 28-03-02 23
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... AnnWilliams 28-03-02 24
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... alison 28-03-02 27
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... MAB 28-03-02 25
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... AEHandley 28-03-02 26
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... Helen 29-03-02 28
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... David M 01-04-02 29
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... AEHandley 01-04-02 30
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... David M 01-04-02 31
                             RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet... AEHandley 02-04-02 32

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Richard Jones

26-03-02, 00:39 AM (GMT)
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1. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   LAST EDITED ON 26-03-02 AT 01:04 AM (GMT)

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Personally I'd be happy to give most of the 19th century war-horses a bit of a rest (though I've always time for a good Swan Lake - no production totally satisfies, so that seems to be part of its allure!).

I'd prefer the RB to go for a repertoire which is musically strong, which does not have silly kitsch stories (stories are great if they deal with real drama and real characters with depth, but...), and which brings in some work we rarely see.

E.g.

The afternoon of a faun - Robbins (when was that last done by the RB? I saw it decades ago with Jenny Penney and Sir Anthony - it's wonderful).

Familiar and unfamiliar Balanchine -

The Four Temperaments; Orpheus (which I've only seen once - it's a subdued but fascinating score, and this ballet helped to clinch NYCB's future when the company emerged from previous Kirstein/Balanchine enterprises). I'd also like to have a look at something by Mr B that I haven't seen, e.g. Mozartiana

And there's always time for Serenade and Symphony in 3 Movements
(I'd also add Apollo, which I never tire of, and Agon, but I guess there has to be a limit here!)

The Song of the Earth - MacMillan
(because the music is wonderful and I haven't seen this ballet - I think BRB did it not that long ago, but the RB needs to start on its journey through MacMillan's work, and not just the most obvious pieces)

The Protecting Veil - Bintley (which some of the critics couldn't understand because they have no feel for the spiritual, as Bintley has; amongst all new ballets I have seen during the last few years, this is the one I most want to see again)

Symphonic Variations - Ashton (good to have the appetite sharpened by pure dance work in the English style)

New choreography for Appalachian Spring (about time a large ballet company got hold of this fine score - a gift! - and there's more Copland besides)

New choreography for Vaughan Williams' 'Job' - too fine a score to let the dust gather on it; I've not seen the original production (which has been revived in recent years) but have been told it now looks very dated

A revival of Stravinsky's 'The song of the Nightingale' - is the 1925 Balanchine choreography which starred the very young Markova in the leading role preserved in any way? I doubt it somehow. If not, here is another good choreographic opportunity -it's a good Hans Anderson story, with wonderful opportunities for exotic design.

Tudor's Romeo and Juliet (to the music of Delius). Now that Tudor seems no longer to be 'persona non grata', his interpretation of everyone's favourite love story should reach our theatres. When revived by American Ballet Theatre in 1971 a critic referred to it as "one of the most brilliant and interesting of recent ballets..what might be compared to a Botticelli frieze..an emphasis on elegant, agitated, fastidiously sensual flow rather than on volume..". In the Boston Globe it was regarded as "an extraordinary ballet..the perennial story in intimate terms...the elegiac, rich-textured score seems at first too impressionistic to support the tragedy.. in fact it reinforces the ballet's delicate romanticism and isn't overpowering.. a rethinking of every aspect of the narrative ballet..."

I think we are missing out somewhere! Tudor's piece provides an antidote to constant revivals of the Prokofiev score; it's good to have a change of view on this story from time to time.

On the other hand, please spare us from predictability, from half-baked work which is put on just because the choreographer happens to be alive (physically if not artistically), and from new scores of the neo-sub-Tchaikovsky variety by the present day equivalents of the 19th century house composers at the Maryinsky. These belong to the theatres which do the lesser breed of Musicals (pale shadows of the real thing). We need new work, but we also need artistic excellence.

I guess I've slightly overfilled the quota allowed, even though I would pass on the 3-act classic option in order to see more work of this kind. There is so much fine music waiting for choreographic revival - it just needs artistic imagination to make it happen.


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gd

26-03-02, 11:06 AM (GMT)
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2. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   Corsaire - great kitsch quota pity about the plotline, choreography and music
Western Symphony - gets my vote for the most UNSUITABLE ballet that the RB could perform (perhaps thtat's the subject of another survey).
Song of the Earth - we're getting anyway
I've limited myself to pieces not seen in recent years - my list would be MUCH longer if I could plead for Nijinska again etc.

My votes are as follows:
3 Act:
recreation of Ashton's full-length SYLVIA(which Christopher Newton feels confident he could stage).
or
MacMillan's ANASTASIA

1 Act:
MacMillan's REQUIEM - this sublime ballet not seen at Covent Garden for over 15 years or SOLITAIRE
or
Ashton's WEDDING BOUQUET (funny and witty) or JAZZ CALENDAR (very trendy again)or acquire CAPRIOL SUITE before it disappears from everyone's conciousness.
or
Cranko's LADY AND THE FOOL.
or
de Valois' CHECKMATE or RAKE'S PROGRESS - shocking omissions from the repertoire, especially now...


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Tim Powell

26-03-02, 11:29 AM (GMT)
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4. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   Lady and the Fool with a little pruning and Bussell,Cope and Ciriaci in the leading roles sounds good to me.


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alison

26-03-02, 01:40 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   LAST EDITED ON 26-03-02 AT 01:41 PM (GMT)

Restricting us to ballets the RB has never performed is a bit harsh, I think, when there are so much neglected works in the back catalogue, so I'm going to include a few of those as well.

Full-length (ish) works: I'd love to see La Sylphide *somewhere*, and with Kobborg in the company it'd be ideal, although I'm not sure how well other members would cope with Bournonville.
Not sure about Anastasia - with Wildor and Durante gone (and a shortage of dramatic men, although Watson could be interesting) it might be a little difficult filling lead roles.
Could they borrow Hobson's Choice from BRB, d'you think?

New works: absolutely nothing based on an existing book/opera just because it's well-known. There are enough companies using that as a method of getting bums on seats without the Royal starting as well.

One-acters: Agree with Gerald totally about Requiem, which was the only one of Macmillan's choral/vocal works we didn't see last year. BTW, it was last performed by the RB in 1990, which isn't *quite* 15 years ago.
Ditto some of the de Valois works, and Wedding Bouquet, which must have been out of the rep for over a decade now.
Also support MAB's suggestion about some Petit - something Britain has been seriously short of in the last 15 years or so.

Perhaps we should nip over to the Australian Ballet site and see what else Ross Stretton could transfer to the RB - I did notice that there were some ballets in the rep which might actually suit the company.


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MAB

26-03-02, 11:26 AM (GMT)
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3. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   No difficulty in answering question 1, it would have to be a full length Raymonda. Either the Nureyev version or the Grigorovitch version. On balance I think I would opt for Grigorovitch although I prefer Nureyev's up-beat ending. It would be perfect for the RB.

For a one act ballet, I would like to see something by Roland Petit. It saddens me greatly that the man who is arguably the greatest living choreographer, has mostly been ignored in the UK. There is a lot of choice; his ballet Le Jeune Homme et La Mort is rightly celebrated, though I don't think the RB has the right kind of "sexy beast" for the male role, but Darcey Bussel could be great as La Mort. His very recent Queen of Spades is stunning, although again difficult to cast and Le Loup is one of the most beautiful works I have ever seen. So any of those really. And by the way, if we are to have Carmen in the rep. Why the Ek version? Why not Petit's?

A completely new work? Great idea, but who would choreograph it? If MacMillan were still with us, I would suggest Flaubert's Madam Bovary. And I always wondered why no one has adapted Shakespeare's As You Like it for dance. With the heart of ballet being the pas de deux, a play with no less than four amorous couples would offer a feast of dance opportunities. It also has a happy ending.


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meunier

26-03-02, 11:40 AM (GMT)
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5. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   Full length

I would like to suggest Balanchine's Harlinquinade for the full length (2 act) work. Would prove very popular with families, I'm sure and prove exciting from a dance perspective for both the adults and RBS students.

One Act

Definitely not ANASTASIA - Please - not that - After Diamonds in Jewels - how can one even consider looking at that waste of the music in the second act. If it must be, (and only 'if') then only the 'original' act please, the last one. My selection for one act, however:-

Liebesleider Waltzer (sp? forgive)
Agree: Robbins Afternoon of a Faun

Adaption:-

Well, the simpler the story line the better in ballet.
Would like to suggest Shaw's Candida for something with a solid British root to it. Could be challenging dramatically, choreographically and still please a far too traditional audience. Not to be performed in the main house, however. Should start small in Lindbury or Clore. Let's not have any more huge wastes of money. The House has already been Burnt.


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Paul A

26-03-02, 01:45 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   No full lengths please, but grant you could have Cinderella or Fille for Christmas.

Yes to Wedding Bouquet. The one-act Bayadere please, Sons of Horus, Consort Lessons, Requiem, Varii Capricci.

Is Cyrano revivable? Agree about strictures on literary adaptations - would Neumier's (?) Lady of Camelias be acquirable?


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Robert

26-03-02, 04:11 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   I agree that Cranko’s 'Lady and the Fool'should be revived but what about his 'Pineapple Poll' enough to liven up any gloomy triple bill. I would also like to see work by Ninette De Valious revived particularly 'The Rakes Progress'.
Roland Petit really should be shown, his Carmen was wonderful so was Le Loup. He is still around, could he be persuaded to do something for the RB perhaps in memory of his old girl friend, Margot. Massine who was highly regarded in his day has been neglected for years (except by the Troks!)
I believe ENB put on David Parsons ‘The Envelope.’ could the RB use it? Quite avant guard enough to satisfy all the modern dance freaks but danced to really good music, David Parsons is a really good and innovative choreographer, what’s more he is not usually miserable.
Is it not time for the Royal Ballet to commission something from Matthew Bourne? His own company appears to be defunct or permanently resting while he is successfully doing shows. He has done more for creating new audiences for ballet and /or dance than all the rather phoney outreach from Covent Garden put together. His full length Cinderella was excellent and well danced by several Covent Garden dancers.
At Christmas they should revive ‘The Tales of Beatrix Potter’, difficult to dance but a sure hit. It is quite ridiculous to compete with all the other Nutcrackers, even one with the same choreographer, when you have something exclusive and so very good languishing in the store.
Sorry but I have broken the rules about revivals.


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Paul A

26-03-02, 04:36 PM (GMT)
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9. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   >I agree that Cranko’s 'Lady and
>the Fool'should be revived but
>what about his 'Pineapple Poll'
>enough to liven up any
>gloomy triple bill. I would
>also like to see work
>by Ninette De Valious revived
>particularly 'The Rakes Progress'.

These works are much too small to register in the ROH and I suspect the Linbury too small.

>At Christmas they should revive ‘The
>Tales of Beatrix Potter’


Please no! Or cut it to 20 minutes max. The film was bad enough!!


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Robert

26-03-02, 10:01 PM (GMT)
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10. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   Paul
I saw The Rakes Progress at Covent Garden (with Helpman!)I still have the programme. It did not seem too small then and they have not enlarged the stage. Lady and the Fool is a matter of opinion, I think it would be OK. Sorry about Beatrix Potter, I know lots of people considered it too long, including Ashton! I do not agree.


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tortie14

26-03-02, 11:40 PM (GMT)
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11. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   I think Ross Stretton has plenty of ideas for new ballets so I'm just voting for stuff from the RB repetory.

Fille, Fille, Fille please in the depth of winter its the perfect tonic.

I would also like to see almost any Ashton but particularly Two Pigeons, Scene de Ballet, Birthday Offering (they have enough technically strong girls to do it now) and definitely agree Wedding Bouquet has been away too long. Rendezvous but with the old costumes and sets please.

Pleeeeeze not Anastasia. Mayerling is coming which gets my vote. Always Gloria (I think my favourite MacMillan) and yes, I agree about Requiem. Manon always a pleasure.

Dances at a Gathering - Robbins.

I'd vote for Pineapple Poll (for fun factor and good humour) and I would like to see Lady and the Fool out of interest.

And for something different for a change - how about Napoli or Flower Festival at Genzano? Kobborg would be in his element!

Thanks for asking.


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Paul A

27-03-02, 08:31 AM (GMT)
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12. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   Can imagine the impact Helpman must have had. Judging this from seeing a RBS performance which was well done but seemed lost on the stage. Likewise - forget the title - of the de Valois work revived by BRB in 1998, seemed small scale for a theatre like the Hippodrome. Job again didn't project well in the ROH (granted sitting a long way upstairs).

Lady and the Fool I've only seen an extract and would like to discover: judging on my impression of Pineapple Poll - small in response to the score, feel it needs more in the corps to amplify it.

I'm really lost about Beatrix Potter - I never experienced the books so the characters are of no interest but the choreography - just lots of skipping about.


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trogadmin

27-03-02, 09:22 AM (GMT)
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13. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   >Likewise
>- forget the title -
>of the de Valois work
>revived by BRB in 1998,

The Prospect Before Us and it was a hoot!

I would like to see an "underwater" ballet, perhaps Atlantis, Jaws or The Deep.


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Bex

27-03-02, 02:29 PM (GMT)
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14. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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What about that Helpmann version of Hamlet the Royal had years ago, the photos in Keith Money's books about Nureyev & Fonteyn looked stunning, was it ever recorded in notation & has anyone ever seen it?

Agree with the call for Ashton's Sylvia, the score is fabulous, bet the choreography has some gems too.

Anastasia was a revelation, ok some people quibble with the plot & the stiching together of the 3 symphonies by 2 very different composers, but come on there was a lot of brilliant choreography in there & the three interpretations I saw over 2 days were sensational.


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Paul A

27-03-02, 03:22 PM (GMT)
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15. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   >
>What about that Helpmann version of
>Hamlet the Royal had years
>ago, the photos in Keith
>Money's books about Nureyev &
>Fonteyn looked stunning, was it
>ever recorded in notation

We last saw this in the early 80s - a lot of dramatic exits and entrances and stagey posturing with a florid set by Leslie Hurry. The music carries it but not sure whether this would stand another look: looked a bit cobwebby and a relic of its time. It is well calculated to make its effects but its OTT quality may make it look overblown now.


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AEHandley

27-03-02, 04:41 PM (GMT)
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16. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   >I'm really lost about Beatrix Potter
>- I never experienced the
>books so the characters are
>of no interest but the
>choreography - just lots of
>skipping about.

Having sat through wall to wall repetitions of the video lately, perhaps I can stick my oar in here?

1) Peter Rabbit is 100 yrs old this year so the RB are missing out by not jumping on the bandwagon

2) There is some fabulous choreography in amongst the skipping about - the pigs' pdd and also the 2 bad mice, not to mention Jeremy Fisher, and a great variation for Johnny Town Mouse. (OTOH I could cheerfully shoot Peter Rabbit, notwithstanding the fact that it's Alexander Grant under that fur.)

3)HOWEVER the film had some superb casting with dancers who put the effort in, and also the long shots/links/filmic effects made it rather beautiful. On stage far too much is cut and the effect is twee and trite, and the dancers didn't seem to take the care and pride in the work to make the characters "real" and so the beauty of the good choreography didn't come across.

The film enchanted me aged 10, and enchants my 2.5 year old now, and although the music is stuck in my head and is driving me INSANE the overall effect of the film is still charming (faint praise I know but...) Perhaps it should stick on film, ideally, but hey, it's a far more fun way to end a triple bill than Leaves are Fading! And for a bit of fun, don't read the cast sheet and try to guess who's under the masks (now how about THAT for a ballet.co quiz...)



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Paul A

27-03-02, 05:17 PM (GMT)
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17. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   Anneliese - can't see it! At least we agree on Bayadere!!


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AEHandley

27-03-02, 09:57 PM (GMT)
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18. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   Well I can see where you're coming from - there is an awful lot of skipping about and whisker twitching! And I wouldn't claim it's exactly the noblest example of the art... but neither would I say that it's all rubbish. Horses for courses and it would give people something to complain about other than endless Nutcrackers and anything that sends you out of the ROH with a smile on your face would be a bonus!


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MAB

28-03-02, 10:22 AM (GMT)
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19. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   When I first contributed to this thread, I stuck to the rules and only chose ballets that had never been danced by the RB. But as everyone else wants revivals, how about these?

Ashton: The Two Pigeons, a ballet for which a revival is way overdue. Also how about Cinderella as a Christmas alternative to Nutcracker? Imagine Alina Cojocaru in the title role!

Macmillan: The Four Seasons and La Fin du Jour would head the list, but MacMillan was highly prolific and there are a lot of his works that deserve revival.

Cranko: I always hoped they might have revived Taming of the Shrew for Guillem. I think she would be superb as Katherine. I would also like to see a revival of Poem of Ecstasy, again with Guillem. I adored that Gustave Klimt style set and Scriabin's passionate music.

Balanchine: Ballet Imperial.

Robbins: Dances at a Gathering or In the Night, preferably both.


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AEHandley

28-03-02, 11:00 AM (GMT)
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20. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   I like some of your suggestions but please PLEASE don't revive things "For Guillem". All that means is that no-one else gets to dance them and I personally don't like her dancing very much. I love Month in the Country but why oh why can I only see it with Guillem and Cope (although I have to say that when I saw this last year I was at long last impressed by Cope - I'd always found his dancing dull before)? Surely this cries out for Benjamin and Kobborg!

Balanchine - no thanks. Unless it's Apollo. Most of his stuff doesn't bear watching more than once - just plain boring IMO.
Macmillan- Solitaire and Syncopations (I'm fed up with all this dreary stuff we're getting atm, I don't pay £100 for a night out to be depressed).

Ashton - anything really, all we ever get is Fille (which I love, but he did SO MUCH that's never performed any more). Having said that, Cinderella doesn't do much for me - the score's a bit weak, which doesn't help. But maybe a revival would change my mind? If Belinda Hatley ever recovers she'd be great in it.

Robbins - yes, anything, it would make a change.

And I too would LOVE to see Shrew, but preferably with a dancer with a sense of humour.


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Paul A

28-03-02, 11:24 AM (GMT)
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21. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   Shrew with Guillem would be good - with Acosta? Or invite Ferri to guest? Vishneva? Can't think of any other plausible Petruchios. (Sigh we never saw Mukhamdeov in this!) - but the problem here is the score, reminded of Beecham's comment that Scarlatti (Vivaldi?) - sounds like skeletons rattling in the wind.

Never been convinced that the RB and Balanchine are made for each other - the steely, leggy quality the opposite of the demands of "English/ Ashton style". Balanchine does grow on you Anneliese - but it's taken me nearly 20 years to discover that. Some of classical showcase works are presumably good for discipline/ technique. Shame on you - Cinderella is a marvellous score in the theatre. Act 2 absolute masterpiece - Hatley was excellent in this. Shame about the first scene - and what do you do about the sisters?! Dowell and Mukhamdeov?

A lot of MacMillan is lugubrious (mightily depressed by My Brother, My Sisters) but would love to see Valley of Shadows or Different Drummer (maybe for Watson in the Wayne Eagling role). I can't remember Solitaire but have the notion it was good. Elite Syncopations I think has had its day (or needs 10 minutes pruning out of it). Danses Concertantes came up well when we last had that.



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tortie14

28-03-02, 11:46 AM (GMT)
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22. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   LAST EDITED ON 28-03-02 AT 11:47 AM (GMT)

Paul - I agree about Balanchine and the RB - having seen a lot when the company came over with Mr B in 1980 (thereabout) and seen his stuff done "properly" and been very enthusiastic I have been very disappointed by RB. I think the one they do nicely is Seranade. And somebody mention Lieberslieder Waltzer - I have vivid memories of sitting through seemingly endless hours of it - so I strongly lobby against that one being revived.

I'd vote for Cinderella at Christmas because I love it and it has my favourite costumes for the stars. This was the one that turned me onto ballet when I saw it as a child. But you are right the Sisters would be a challenge - seen some poor offerings recently, tends to be hammed up too much and ends up very unfunny.

I would also vote for Les Sylphides - I'll duck while objects fly!


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AEHandley

28-03-02, 11:59 AM (GMT)
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23. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   >Shrew with Guillem would be good
>- with Acosta? Or invite
>Ferri to guest? Vishneva? Can't
>think of any other plausible
>Petruchios. (Sigh we never saw
>Mukhamdeov in this!) - but
>the problem here is the
>score, reminded of Beecham's comment
>that Scarlatti (Vivaldi?) - sounds
>like skeletons rattling in the
>wind.
>
That's the problem with casting Guillem - shortage of men to dance with her! Acosta would be good (is he tall enough for Sylvie? Could Tamara bring this role off?), but I think so would Kobborg (but he'd have to have a TINY partner and I think that would need to be Benjamin rather than Cojocaru who I doubt could handle this). Hmm didn't know it was set to baroque harpsichords - that would be a downside for me too. Indeed the list of roles we never saw Irek in is FAR too long!

>Never been convinced that the RB
>and Balanchine are made for
>each other - the steely,
>leggy quality the opposite of
>the demands of "English/ Ashton
>style". Balanchine does grow on
>you Anneliese - but it's
>taken me nearly 20 years
>to discover that. Some of
>classical showcase works are presumably
>good for discipline/ technique.

Actually Balanchine has grown OFF me! I liked serenade, symph in C, Ballet Imperial at first sight but then found them unbelievable "same-y" whenever I saw them again. A lot of port de bras and that's your lot. Uninventive I felt but I know I'm in the minority here.


>Shame on you - Cinderella is
>a marvellous score in the
>theatre.

Only seen it live once - Darcey & Jonny on autopilot on Xmas eve matinee so not best example.

>Act 2 absolute masterpiece
>- Hatley was excellent in
>this. Shame about the first
>scene - and what do
>you do about the sisters?!
>Dowell and Mukhamdeov?

Now THERE's a thought!

>A lot of MacMillan is lugubrious
>(mightily depressed by My Brother,
>My Sisters) but would love
>to see Valley of Shadows
>or Different Drummer (maybe for
>Watson in the Wayne Eagling
>role). I can't remember Solitaire
>but have the notion it
>was good. Elite Syncopations I
>think has had its day
>(or needs 10 minutes pruning
>out of it). Danses Concertantes
>came up well when we
>last had that.

Syncopations IS dated but it still puts a smile on my face! I'm not familiar with a lot of MacMillan, though, so I'm at a disadvantage here.

But De Valois would be good - rake or checkmate I think.


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AnnWilliams

28-03-02, 12:23 PM (GMT)
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24. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   Personally, I could happily survive on a diet of Balanchine and Ashton alone - intellectual (dare I use that word?) and spiritual nourishment of the highest order. A little MacMillan fibre would be welcome too - I particularly agree with whoever suggested 'Different Drummer', which I think is a truly groundbreaking piece, for all its faults.

High on my wish list would be Balanchine's mysterious 'La Somnambula' which is hardly ever performed anywhere these days. I've got it on video with Ferri and Baryishikov and I never tire of it. I am delighted that the RB is bringing back Ashton's 'Scenes de Ballet' at last and I hope it won't be too long before we see 'Daphnis & Chloe' and 'A Wedding Bouquet' again.

I also hope we can get a Nijinksa evening, to include her elusive 'Le Train Bleu' (the RB does both her 'Le Noces' and 'Les Biches' fairly regularly, but you can never have too much of her in my view).

New works? Why doesn't the RB invite the likes of Russell Maliphant and Mark Baldwin to create something for them? Cathy Marston? And I for one have certainly not given up on either Tuckett or Page....


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alison

28-03-02, 05:44 PM (GMT)
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27. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   >High on my wish list would
>be Balanchine's mysterious 'La Somnambula'
>which is hardly ever performed
>anywhere these days. I've
>got it on video with
>Ferri and Baryishikov and I
>never tire of it.

Ann, what other delights have you got in your video collection that I don't know about? I meant to add La Sonnambula to my list above but forgot. But would it be the same without Baryshnikov?

>New works? Why doesn't the
>RB invite the likes of
>Russell Maliphant and Mark Baldwin
>to create something for them?
>Cathy Marston?

Quite.


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MAB

28-03-02, 02:19 PM (GMT)
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25. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   I am sorry if my suggesting Guillem in certain roles caused offence but the role of Katherine in Taming of the Shrew calls for a dancer with a very strong, forthright personality and Sylvie Guillem certainly has that. The leading role in Poem of Ecstasy is "The Diva", again that seems to point to Ms Guillam. Most importantly both of these roles should be danced by older women. The role of The Diva was created for Fonteyn when she was in her 50's and is about a celebrated stage star looking back on her life. NOT suitable for a 20 something.

Balanchine "boring"? Anything but! Go and see Who Cares when ENB dance it at the ROH and see if that bores you. I'll admit MacMIllan created some some very depressing ballets but Elite Syncopations, The Four Seasons, The Seven Deadly Sins and La Fin du Jour are all up beat and send the audience home happy.

Cannot agree with your view of Prokofiev's score for Cinderella though.


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AEHandley

28-03-02, 02:35 PM (GMT)
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26. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   >I am sorry if my suggesting
>Guillem in certain roles caused
>offence

Not offence - just dismay! I don't find her an appealing dancer at all (would rather see almost anyone else) and it seems that if Guillem demands a role then no-one else in the company is allowed to dance it, which is tough on the audience too.

>but the role of
>Katherine in Taming of the
>Shrew calls for a dancer
>with a very strong, forthright
>personality and Sylvie Guillem certainly
>has that. The leading
>role in Poem of Ecstasy
>is "The Diva", again that
>seems to point to Ms
>Guillam. Most importantly both
>of these roles should be
>danced by older women.
>The role of The Diva
>was created for Fonteyn when
>she was in her 50's
>and is about a celebrated
>stage star looking back on
>her life. NOT suitable
>for a 20 something.
>
There are enough 30 somethings around without having to go for Guillem... as I said, the main problem is that she demands all the performances of things.

>Balanchine "boring"? Anything but!
>Go and see Who Cares
>when ENB dance it at
>the ROH and see if
>that bores you.

I have seen it once on TV and found it enjoyable, but on the whole I find his works lacking in imagination and variety. Dull dull dull choreography

>I'll
>admit MacMIllan created some some
>very depressing ballets but Elite
>Syncopations, The Four Seasons, The
>Seven Deadly Sins and La
>Fin du Jour are all
>up beat and send the
>audience home happy.
>
>Cannot agree with your view of
>Prokofiev's score for Cinderella though.
>
Well there you go. I don't think it stands up without the visuals.


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Helen

29-03-02, 01:52 PM (GMT)
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28. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   Bex mentions Helpmann's Hamlet. I saw Nureyev do it, but not with Fonteyn. Ophelia was Lynn Seymour, Hamlet's mother was Monica Mason. It was on the same programme as the premiere of Ashton's Dream with Sibley and Dowell, and (just to show that not everything was perfect) MacMillan's forgettable Images of Love. Nureyev was brilliant as Hamlet, of course - not that there is much dancing in it, but it needs a very, very strong theatrical personality, and I don't think there is anyone at the moment who could do it. I remember Nureyev being interviewed on the radio about it and saying how interesting he found it to portray a "broodink Dane". That's not a typing error; that is how he pronounced it. I think he meant Hamlet, not Erik Bruhn, but I felt there was a connection there!

And please, please, no more Guillem in Fonteyn roles.


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David M

01-04-02, 08:34 PM (GMT)
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29. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   Thanks to every one who replied to this topic.

A lot of the ballets mentioned I had previouly not heard of before , and to me all the replies were exreemly interesting.

Revivals seemed to be at the fore to a lot of the suggestions which i had not taken into account in my original message , so the following isa small list of revivals i would like to see performed.

Elite Syncopations / Galantries ( both not nominated by anyone)/ Birthday Offering / La F/G / Le Sylphide.

Take Care

David


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AEHandley

01-04-02, 09:23 PM (GMT)
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30. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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>Elite Syncopations / Galantries ( both
>not nominated by anyone)/ Birthday
>Offering / La F/G /
>Le Sylphide.
>

Not trying to be picky but needing to clarify - would that be Les Sylphides or La Sylphide?

(chopin/lots of women in white vs scottish, old witch, one woman in white)


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David M

01-04-02, 10:33 PM (GMT)
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31. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   Hi to AE Hadley,

When i read your message , it brought a huge grin to my face, thank you.

Sorry re my spelling of the ballet I nominated as a ballet I would like to see performed at the ROH . As I sat typing the message I thought , I bet you get the spelling wrong David , and yes I did ,you should have referred to the programme notes you had in front of you ,but thought you knew better.


To clarify , I would really like to see the ballet set in Escosse , featuring witches , and in the second act , a corp de ballet dressed in costumes much as the corp in Giselle are wearing at the moment(i think).

Kobburg would be just right as the male lead , and to partner him , Alina C.

Thanks again for correctimg myself and bringing a huge grin to my face .

Take Care

David
PS

I am prejuduce to wantng to see this ballet located in Escotia, I am Scottish.


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AEHandley

02-04-02, 01:05 PM (GMT)
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32. "RE: What ballet would you most like to see The Royal Ballet perform."
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   Thanks!

Much more exciting for the RB than Les Sylphides and a must for Kobborg! Who would you choose as Madge? Irek, perhaps?!


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