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eugdog

11-03-02, 03:00 PM (GMT)
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"A ballet weekend in Paris."
 
   On the weekend of May 04/05 the Paris Opera Ballet will stage two ballets - Don Q at the Bastille at 1930hrs on May 04 and a rare sunday perfomance of a great triple bill (including Pino Bauch Rite of Spring, Balancine etc) at 1500hrs (palais Garnier). Top seats at the ballet are about £40!!! You can book online at www.opera-de-paris.com. But book soon because the bank holiday all the EuroStar Trains will be sold out - in fact the cheap £79 fares are already gone!!!


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: A ballet weekend in Paris. Jim 11-03-02 1
     RE: A ballet weekend in Paris. eugdog 11-03-02 2
         RE: A ballet weekend in Paris. Jim 11-03-02 3
             RE: A ballet weekend in Paris. AEHandley 11-03-02 4
                 RE: A ballet weekend in Paris. Viviane 12-03-02 5
                     RE: A ballet weekend in Paris. eugdog 12-03-02 6
                         RE: A ballet weekend in Paris. Viviane 12-03-02 7
                 RE: A ballet weekend in Paris. alison 13-03-02 8
                     RE: A ballet weekend in Paris. Viviane 13-03-02 9
                     RE: A ballet weekend in Paris. AEHandley 13-03-02 10
                         RE: A ballet weekend in Paris. eugdog 14-03-02 11
                             RE: A ballet weekend in Paris. Viviane 14-03-02 12
                             RE: A ballet weekend in Paris. Jim 14-03-02 13
                             RE: A ballet weekend in Paris. Helen 14-03-02 14
                             RE: A ballet weekend in Paris. AEHandley 14-03-02 15
                             RE: A ballet weekend in Paris. Mike 14-03-02 16
                             RE: A ballet weekend in Paris. katharine kanter 22-03-02 17
                             RE: A ballet weekend in Paris. Jim 23-03-02 18
                             RE: A ballet weekend in Paris. Bruceadmin 23-03-02 19

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Jim

11-03-02, 03:15 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: A ballet weekend in Paris."
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   >all the EuroStar Trains will
>be sold out - in
>fact the cheap £79 fares
>are already gone!!!

But don't overlook the Eurolines coach service from Victoria (I'm using it in a couple of weeks) - really NOT as gruelling as it sounds and for only £33 you can't complain. And hey, you might even get to go on a ship



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eugdog

11-03-02, 03:48 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: A ballet weekend in Paris."
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   Eurolines coach sevice should get you into Paris in time for the evening show - but if you want to see the afternoon show as well it will mean a grueling overning journey back!! Now that I am reminded of a ship - I am beginning to feel rather nostalgic for those luxury PandO ferries. Those LeShuttle trains are totally souless ( a toilet and a lightbulb are the only things to past the time away!)


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Jim

11-03-02, 04:39 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: A ballet weekend in Paris."
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   > Those LeShuttle trains are
>totally souless ( a
>toilet and a lightbulb are
>the only things to past
>the time away!)

Ha! Yes, at least on a ship you can walk about, smell the sea air, feel the heaving ocean under your feet and actually sense that you are doing something special! Not to mention the bar, of course.


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AEHandley

11-03-02, 10:08 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: A ballet weekend in Paris."
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   Ha! Yes, at least on a
>ship you can walk about,
>smell the sea air, feel
>the heaving ocean under your
>feet

Exactly. Train for me, please!



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Viviane

12-03-02, 08:40 AM (GMT)
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5. "RE: A ballet weekend in Paris."
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   Cheap rates at 78£ ? If you look out for a combination-booking
Eurostar/hotel it should be possible to have it for less.
I never pay more than 60£ for Eurostar, booked through travelagency at least 2 days in advance. To have that price you need to book at least 7-14 days in advance with Eurostar directly.

>Those LeShuttle trains are totally souless ( a toilet and a lightbulb are the only things to past the time away!)

Oh dear ! Some imagination please ! You can do stretch-exercises at the side-barre's (barre not bar ) or make sure you have good company, bring some good music .... I have had the most interesting conversations with other travellers...and time passed too quick ! From the 35 min.crossingtime you are only 25 in the "dark"....

For those Eurolines busses : make sure you have one with a GPS-system !


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eugdog

12-03-02, 01:23 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: A ballet weekend in Paris."
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   When I took the bus to Paris some years ago - what lingered in the mind most of all was the drab countryside we went through. Vast great flat fields for intensive farming. At least on Eurostar it passes at 190 mph! Now if they could improve the food which is disgusting and outrageously priced!

Next time I must think about a package holiday because I paid £100 for my train ticket!


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Viviane

12-03-02, 06:41 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: A ballet weekend in Paris."
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   >Now if they could improve the food which is disgusting and outrageously priced!

You are so right on this Eugene ! I'm definitely avoiding the food on Eurostar...I hate it and make sure to eat something small in advance, otherwise I survive on banana's
...it's even worse at the Eurotunnel check-in points and after eight you simply can't get something to eat !


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alison

13-03-02, 01:09 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: A ballet weekend in Paris."
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   Ah, but Anneliese, there's nothing quite like crossing the Channel in a Force 8 gale (especially on the Dover-Ostend route) .


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Viviane

13-03-02, 01:29 PM (GMT)
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9. "RE: A ballet weekend in Paris."
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   ....and making the crossing on an overloaded ship (yes ! I needed to stay on deck the whole evening !) on a dark, foggy Channel...you hardly saw 5m...only heard all the foghorns from the surrounding ships...and then one started to open the lifejacket-containers...


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AEHandley

13-03-02, 10:58 PM (GMT)
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10. "RE: A ballet weekend in Paris."
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   I know, I know... I have done Gothenburg-Felixtowe in a Force 11 (compounded by the following coach trip to Malvern omigod I thought I'd die), Boulogne-Dover and Cherbourg-Poole in a 6, and Cherbourg-Portsmouth in an 8. The last was the best, because I'd had food poisoning the night before and had been given such powerful drugs by the French doctor that I didn't care! But I don't like boats. I take after my mother... when I asked Dad once why they didn't go down to Santander and do a Parador tour instead of France again his response was "because your b****y mother won't spend 24 b****y hours in a b****y boat, that's why!" and oh my oh my she was right!


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eugdog

14-03-02, 12:13 PM (GMT)
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11. "RE: A ballet weekend in Paris."
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   My first ferry trip was an a run-down ship traveling from Wales to Ireland. It shold have only taken 3 hours but ended but taken 14 hours (overnight) as it was caught in storm and could not dock safely!!!

Practically every one aboard was seasick including myself. The food on board was vile (it was in te good old days of Sealink and British Rail) and perhaps contributed to my seasickness. But after that I never got sea-sick again.

What a contrast to those luxury quasi-Liners that now plough the sea-lanes today.

I also remember seeing my very first dance performances. It was on the Harwich to Hook of Holland route (replace by catamaran today). They had 3 girls dancing to a rock band which was performing well known 80s hits. I remember that I rather liked it!


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Viviane

14-03-02, 12:19 PM (GMT)
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12. "RE: A ballet weekend in Paris."
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   Oh dear ! The "Hoek of Holland-Harwich"-line is rather dull now !


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Jim

14-03-02, 12:27 PM (GMT)
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13. "RE: A ballet weekend in Paris."
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   I can upstage the lot of you! I came back from Antarctica to New Zealand on an American Icebreaker ship. They have no keel (so they can ride up over the ice) and roll like a bitch. We came back successively through the Screaming Sixties, the Furious Fifties and the Roaring Forties. It was often easier to stand on the side wall than the floor, the ship's bell was constantly ringing with the roll, and we were lashed into our bunks at night. I had a fantastic time, and gorged myself for a fortnight on hearty American breakfasts of waffles, maple syrup and sausages. Give me a ship anytime. If a plane goes wrong I can't fly, but at least I can swim a bit!


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Helen

14-03-02, 02:12 PM (GMT)
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14. "RE: A ballet weekend in Paris."
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   My son Julian has done even better (or worse) than that! He once, when a student, crossed the Channel on a "tall ship", a sailing ship, and had to scrub decks and climb rigging like someone out of Billy Budd. When he reached England he couldn't walk on land for a while. He had been on holiday, run out of money, and saw the ship asking for volunteers to work their passage. I notice he hasn't been on water much since.

Let me see, this thread started as "Weekend in Paris", didn't it?


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AEHandley

14-03-02, 03:22 PM (GMT)
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15. "RE: A ballet weekend in Paris."
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   It was often easier
>to stand on the side
>wall than the floor, the
>ship's bell was constantly ringing
>with the roll, and we
>were lashed into our bunks
>at night. I had a
>fantastic time, and gorged myself
>for a fortnight on hearty
>American breakfasts of waffles, maple
>syrup and sausages.

You can go off people, you know... I just wish I had the faintest idea what it was that the Norman doctor injected me with that time as it completely disconnected my stomach from my head - I remember distinctly feeling every huge lurch of the ferry (well not that huge, not like the 23 degree list on the triangle line back from gothenburg but bad enough) in my head while my stomach didn't churn at all.
Horses for courses, as they say!


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Mike

14-03-02, 09:29 PM (GMT)
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16. "RE: A ballet weekend in Paris."
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   Not sure of the availability over the Bank Holiday weekend, but I can thouroughly recommend some of the package deals available over the internet for Paris trips. I've been several times over the last 18 months or so, and have paid between £99 and £149 for Eurostar plus 2 nights B&B, price dependant on whether you want 2, 3 or 4-star hotels, and how central you want to be


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katharine kanter

22-03-02, 09:44 AM (GMT)
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17. "RE: A ballet weekend in Paris."
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   Could not figure out how to put up a new topic, so have posted this here.

With apologies to Bruce, as I've just posted up this review on Ballert Alert as well.

COPPELIA, choreography by Patrice Bart, POB, performance of March 21st 2002


Yank this thing of the boards as soon as possible ! Where was the ol'Vaudeville hook when we needed it ?

Have already seen it twice, walked out at the interval.

For those of you out there who do not know, this is a completely "rethought", if that is the word, "Coppélia" by the POB's former ballet master Patrice Bart. Not a step remains from Saint Léon's original. This Thing dates from 1996, has huge chunks of music glopped in from the opera "Lakhme" and God knows where else, and is an absolute unmitigated mess, cast of thousands galumphing over the stage in all directions, meaninglessly.

Why Bart says he had to bring in that brilliant mime Claude de Vulpian to instruct, is beyond me, because he as simply wrecked all the lovely mime passages in the original.

The dances are messy and complicated, the variations either dull, or dire. The intrigue is impossible to follow, something Freudian and sexually triangular (Where would this country be without a sexual triangle ?)

Lionel Delannoe as Frantz was so much under the weather, that the less said the better, and Elisabeth Maurin as Swanhilda seemed, for whatever reason, terribly ill at ease, even shaky. Perhaps the gruesome choreography had got to them both.

Sole redeeming feature of the evening: some exquisite instants from the twenty-year old Myriam Ould-Braham (whose quality of movement is simply extraordinary) and from that beautiful redhead Fanny Fiat. As for Emmanuel Thibault as one of Frantz's little friends - well, what foreigners must think about seeing a dancer of the extraordinary quality of Thibault, in the seventeenth row third from the left, with Delannoe up front as "premier danseur", is a peculiar question better not raised here.



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Jim

23-03-02, 07:45 AM (GMT)
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18. "RE: A ballet weekend in Paris."
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   Sounds like Katharine has been having a pretty miserable time in Paris lately, what with this and Hurlevent.


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Bruceadmin

23-03-02, 08:56 AM (GMT)
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19. "RE: A ballet weekend in Paris."
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I've posted this up as a new thread. There is a complication because I can't generally impersonate others and so in the index it is shown as my posting. In the post I state whose words they are.
http://www.danze.co.uk/dcforum/happening/2583.html

New posts are initiated by using the Post icon/button at the top of the forum listing you want to post in. For reviews that Whats Happening and this link (which you can bookmark) will take you to the level you need:
http://www.danze.co.uk/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=list&forum=happening&archive=

Phew - I think that covers it!


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