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Bruce Madmin

19-01-02, 02:49 PM (GMT)
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"New Mini-poll ideas please"
 
   The current poll has run and run and we need a new one. Be nice to start the year with something not too flippant.... so any ideas?! Thanks muchly....


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: New Mini-poll ideas please Ann Welsh 19-01-02 1
     RE: New Mini-poll ideas please Bruceadmin 19-01-02 2
  RE: New Mini-poll ideas please Viviane 19-01-02 3
     RE: New Mini-poll ideas please Viviane 20-01-02 4
     RE: New Mini-poll ideas please Bruce Madmin 21-01-02 5
         Next Mini-poll... Bruce Madmin 24-01-02 6
             RE: Next Mini-poll... Viviane 24-01-02 7
                 RE: Next Mini-poll... Helen 24-01-02 8
                     RE: Next Mini-poll... Viviane 24-01-02 9
                         RE: Next Mini-poll... Helen 24-01-02 10
                             RE: Next Mini-poll... Viviane 24-01-02 11
                             RE: Next Mini-poll... Bruce Madmin 27-01-02 12
                             RE: Next Mini-poll... sylvia 27-01-02 13
                             RE: Next Mini-poll... Bruce Madmin 27-01-02 14
                             RE: Next Mini-poll... alison 29-01-02 15

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Ann Welsh

19-01-02, 04:23 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: New Mini-poll ideas please"
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   The poll has been interesting in that it has thrown the 'Others' category to the top of the list so somewhere, some people have strong ideas on this. It would be good to know what 'Others'. Not the subject of a mini poll, just curiosity really. Maybe a new thread?


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Bruceadmin

19-01-02, 05:07 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: New Mini-poll ideas please"
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   All our Mini-polls these days have a (small) 'Add thoughts' link - everybody duly looks up now to check this! - and that takes you to the thread for discussion about the poll. Here is another link to the thread about the new Rambert AD and where thoughts on others etc should go:
http://www.danze.co.uk/dcforum/happening/2332.html

By all means add further thoughts to that thread - we'd really like to keep this one for thoughts on brand new polls. ta


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Viviane

19-01-02, 05:12 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: New Mini-poll ideas please"
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   ...some ideas and loose thoughts popping up in my mind :
(simply skip if these have been covered already !)

-'Which is your favourite/best ballet-theatre' ? (home-country and abroad)
-'What is important for a theatre : the sightlines, the seating-space, the bar (), acoustics, the climatisation, , access by public transport, the programme.....
-'What makes you go every and every time again to the same ballet ?'
-'What made you 'hooked' to ballet : the company, one(or more) favourite stories, a particular dancer, the score, a certain choreography, all previous reasons together .....
-Recently I had a discussion with my daughter concerning..the different tutu's...! I was amazed she preferred the 'plateau'-one to the romantic tutu ! So maybe a poll about dance-wear/costumes ?
-'Is dance-history important to you ?..do you read about dance-history... would you consider to go and see a ballet with rather bad critics, just because it is an important one from the point of history .....ever visited a dance-related exhibition ?'
-'Are reviews by critics important in your decision to go and see a ballet ? or....are the comments of regular-visitors and postings on this site more important in your decision-making ?
-'Apart from going to the ballet and reading Ballet.co..., do you read/buy printed magazines, do you buy the music, video/DVD, do you read books on ballet, do you buy dance-related merchandise goodies, do you collect ballet-memorabilia ?....'
-'Do you prefer a company with the well-known hierarchic system for her dancers or a company where the choreographer is the 'principal' ?'


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Viviane

20-01-02, 10:38 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: New Mini-poll ideas please"
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   Maybe we need a Poll on 'dancers-website's' ?


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Bruce Madmin

21-01-02, 05:12 AM (GMT)
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5. "RE: New Mini-poll ideas please"
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   Splendid list - thank you!

There are some real goodies for the future here, though some of them might be a little hard to 'fit' into our very limited format.

I'd like to do the 'What makes you go time and time again to the same piece?' (changed the words a little). But we need to generate a list of up to 10 reasons for people to vote on. So readers; your thoughts for the list - and don't forget they can only be one or two words in length!

We have a week to work on this, in the meantime I'm going with a poll based on something that came up in the Clement Crisp interview - but I'll write about that on another thread.


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Bruce Madmin

24-01-02, 08:49 AM (GMT)
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6. "Next Mini-poll..."
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   Need to get you all thinking 'cos we want to keep chenging the Mini-polls..

The next one is 'What makes you go time and time again to the same piece?

But we need to generate a lits of up to 10 one or two word anserws for people to vote on. Help! (and ta in anticipation)


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Viviane

24-01-02, 11:46 AM (GMT)
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7. "RE: Next Mini-poll..."
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   Oh dear ! Is this due to an alarming lack of imagination ? Come on ! One must be able to 'place' the reason why one is going time and time again to the same ballet ?!

to start : (some are overlapping...and some too long !)
- the story/- the score/- different cast/- different company/- different choreographer/- favourite dancer (performer-related)/-reworked version/- the venue/- my friend does/- to know it by heart/- to know all versions/- to know all subtilities/- tradition/- the media-hype/- just biased/- to dance it myself/- other


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Helen

24-01-02, 12:40 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: Next Mini-poll..."
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   Well, you're certainly not short of imagination or ideas, Viviane! I think the problem is that the reason is almost always a combination of things - but I suppose "to know all subtleties" would cover that. Or if you live in the North-West of England as I do, how about "because Nutcracker and Swan Lake are the only ballets that ever come here" - not strictly true, but near enough.


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Viviane

24-01-02, 01:10 PM (GMT)
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9. "RE: Next Mini-poll..."
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   LAST EDITED ON 24-01-02 AT 01:15 PM (GMT)


I'm sorry for all my spelling-faults I'm getting a bit lazy and don't use my dictionary anymore ....

Hey ! Yes Helen, I think .."because it's the only ballet that ever comes here" is a valuable reason !
(...imagination & ideas...that's my job, Helen !)
Oh Bruce, how can you squeeze this into one or two words ????
...maybe : 'availability' ?


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Helen

24-01-02, 03:19 PM (GMT)
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10. "RE: Next Mini-poll..."
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   And another one - looking for the perfect performance. "Seeking perfection", perhaps. I do a lot of that!


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Viviane

24-01-02, 03:45 PM (GMT)
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11. "RE: Next Mini-poll..."
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   Helen...you're amazing !


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Bruce Madmin

27-01-02, 09:15 AM (GMT)
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12. "RE: Next Mini-poll..."
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   I've been trying to boil the suggestions down into categories that are as generic as possible.

Just to remind you, the poll question is 'What makes you go time and time again to the same piece?

Here is the provisional list of choices:

Different interpretations
Seeking perfection
Love of a dancer
Seeing subtleties
little dance choice
other

happy to consider one or two more additions or changing words if it makes things clearer - but we have little space remember.

... and thanks for your help!


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sylvia

27-01-02, 01:09 PM (GMT)
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13. "RE: Next Mini-poll..."
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   LAST EDITED ON 27-01-02 AT 01:10 PM (GMT)

I'm being pedantic but what about changing 'love of a dancer' to 'dancers' or adding on 'love of a cast'. In response to Vivane's request that I post something on the subject, I saw Onegin's first cast all three times because that cast was so extraordinary all round and so perfectly balanced. Given that Cooper and Stiefel are guest artists, and all 4 are favourites I never thought the stars would line up for me like this again, so I saw them every opportunity I could.

Otherwise I think the list is great - I can't think of anything else to add to it!

And how about this as an idea for a future ballet.co poll - the death of new narrative/story ballets. Looking at Stephen Baynes' profile in the Independent it makes me sad that he thinks such ballets can't be made or aren't as accepted anymore. And it might provoke some interesting discussion as to why some of the best choreographers go down the contemporary or abstract ballet route.


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Bruce Madmin

27-01-02, 06:29 PM (GMT)
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14. "RE: Next Mini-poll..."
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>I'm being pedantic but what about
>changing 'love of a dancer'
>to 'dancers' or adding on
>'love of a cast'.

I understand and think I'll change to
'love of dancer/cast'

It's not short but hopefully people rapidly understand what it means

>
>And how about this as an
>idea for a future ballet.co
>poll - the death of
>new narrative/story ballets. Looking at
>Stephen Baynes' profile in the
>Independent it makes me sad
>that he thinks such ballets
>can't be made or aren't
>as accepted anymore. And it
>might provoke some interesting discussion
>as to why some of
>the best choreographers go down
>the contemporary or abstract ballet
>route.

Nice one - there is something here I'm sure. I'll start a new Mini-poll thread around these issues after I have got the next poll off and running. Thank you


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alison

29-01-02, 01:15 PM (GMT)
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15. "RE: Next Mini-poll..."
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   LAST EDITED ON 29-01-02 AT 01:16 PM (GMT)

You've missed out "Love of the piece"! And how about "I don't!", so that we don't exclude anyone?


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