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David M

01-01-02, 09:03 PM (GMT)
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"Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal Ballet. "
 
   Attending performances of the Royal Ballet is one of my main hobbies in life to which i derive great enjoyment , however I have a slight problem.

In the ROH programme , all the main Principles/Soloists are shown along with a few boring notes of their biography ( sorry , but only a personal opinion of the biographies , but couldn't something be done to liven up the biographies a little)

Any way that is not my point .

Through time you learn to idenify various dancer's and by a process of elimation you become aware of dancer's individual name's even though they might not be featured in the programme notes.

However, can anyone tell me is their a web page that features pictures of all the artists in the company , from the corp upwards.

How good it would be to put a name to a face you have saw so often. I am sure that there are enough interested parties out there who would appreciate this info .

Perhaps pictures of the whole company could be featured on this site !!! and if not on the ROH web site.

Any suggestions as to where i might find a web page featuring pictues of all the company with a accomapnying biography would be greatly appreciated .

Thanks in advance to any one who may be able to help me on this point.

David


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal... sylvia 02-01-02 1
     RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal... sylvia 02-01-02 2
  RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal... Margaret 02-01-02 3
     RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal... Helen 02-01-02 4
         RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal... jashdown 02-01-02 5
  RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal... David M 02-01-02 6
     RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal... sylvia 18-01-02 7
         RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal... David M 19-01-02 8
             RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal... sugar plum fairy 21-01-02 9
                 RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal... Robert 22-01-02 10
  RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal... David M 26-01-02 11
     RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal... Bruceadmin 26-01-02 12
         RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal... jhanner 29-01-02 15
     RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal... alison 29-01-02 13
         RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal... sylvia 29-01-02 14
             RE: dancers-email/message board. Viviane 29-01-02 16
             RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal... alison 30-01-02 17

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sylvia

02-01-02, 01:14 AM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal Ballet. "
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   David,

I scour the web pretty often and very thoroughly for ballet related stuff and unfortunately I've never come across a website that features RB artists and certainly not one that goes right down to the corps. I'm pretty sure ballet.co is the best web site there is for this kind of thing.

I agree, it's disappointing the lack of info the RB provides on anyone below solo rank. I would love to put some names to faces especially when it comes to some dancers in the corps who catch my eye.

I'm hopeful though that the ROH website will continue to exapnd and eventually include more biographies as well as photos of the dancers. Maybe we could email them en masse??!!


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sylvia

02-01-02, 05:43 AM (GMT)
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2. "RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal Ballet. "
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   Or here's another thought (though a bit of a long shot) - I vaguely remember the programme for the Anthony Dowell Gala having a huge company photo of all the dancers all of whom are identified. I think the programme notes for the Mixed Bill in August were also very extensive. If you can persuade someone to make a copy then I guess that's something!


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Margaret

02-01-02, 10:52 AM (GMT)
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3. "RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal Ballet. "
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   I sometimes attend the Royal Ballet at Work classes and it is often difficult to put names to faces, especially as you do not have a list of dancers in the class. Sometimes someone else nearby can supply a name, but I am not sure how accurate they are. Dancers also look very different in class from their stage pictures!
I did once ask an attendant if it was possible to have a list of dancers attending, but she told me that they do not know who would be turning up, so could not supply a list.
Any suggestions gratefully received.


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Helen

02-01-02, 02:42 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal Ballet. "
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   Programmes for the English National Ballet and the Moscow Stanislavsky Ballet have passport-type photographs of all the dancers, corps de ballet included. It would be good if the Royal did the same.


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jashdown

02-01-02, 05:47 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal Ballet. "
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   I noticed that in the credits of the Barishnikov Don Q., all the corps de ballet names were mentioned.

Why can't this be done in the productions shown on television of the Royal Ballet?

It surely cannot be that hard to add a few names on the end.

Juliet.


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David M

02-01-02, 09:33 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal Ballet. "
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   Thanks to you all for replying

But how about we all make an effort to help ourelves in recognising all the members of the company .

Suggestion,

1) We all tell five people ( or more) who might be interetsted in putting names to all the dancers ( from the Corp de Ballet upwards) in the Royal Ballet .

2)AND each of the people we inform then e mail the ROH , requsting that pictures and short biographies be featured on the ROH web page of ALL REPEAT ALL THE DANCERS OF THE COMPANY.

This info could be updated once a year at the beginning of the season, but I honestly cannot see no reason why the dancers featuring in the company cannot be updated throughout the year as they come and go.

Only a suggestion to you all , but i am sure that this information would be of most use to many devoted loyal fans of the Royal Ballet.

My e mail to the ROH will be winging its way to them tomorrow morning.

Take Care

David


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sylvia

18-01-02, 05:11 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal Ballet. "
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   Good news! I received a reply to an email this morning saying that the ROH website's

"inclusion of dancers biogs, photos and other written material will be rolled out over the next few months.

There are also other sections, presently in discussion, which we hope will improve the popularity of our site even more."

The website's expanded quite a bit in the last few weeks, for those who haven't visited recently. I think it's definitely looking like one to be proud of.


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David M

19-01-02, 10:39 AM (GMT)
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8. "RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal Ballet. "
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   Sylvia,

Thank you for the info

I e mailed the ROH with my suggestion , but alas did not receive a reply.

But at least they are now going to do something about our request.

Thanks again,

David


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sugar plum fairy

21-01-02, 10:32 AM (GMT)
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9. "RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal Ballet. "
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   I don't know why the RB doesn't put a face to a name on their programmes??it is the same when advertising performances..they always say who the principal dancers are but they don't go down to the principal artists or the corps...i mentioned this to the guy at the stage door when i phoned him for information about David Drew and what he was dancing earlier in the year , anyway the very , very nice man on the phone phoned me back after talking to David ( WOW!!)and he said he would ask the powers to be to try and include information like that programmes and when advertising....haven't seen any info on that yet!!!


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Robert

22-01-02, 09:41 PM (GMT)
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10. "RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal Ballet. "
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   It would have been useful to have pictures of the Royal Ballet at the recent ENB Mixed Bill. I sat just in front of Ross Stretton and co. and spent some time on return home trying to work out all the people I had seen in the audience. Incidentally I did not think Stretton as good in real life as in the RB programme photo. Good manners stopped me from telling him what I thought about his administration!
Robert


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David M

26-01-02, 12:54 PM (GMT)
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11. "RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal Ballet. "
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   Hello,

Thank you to everyone who has replied to this topic and i look forward to seeing the additions to the ROH web page as we requested, HOWEVER we now need to take this topic one step further.

How often after a performance are you exhillarated by the dancing , and upon returning home you pen a letter of appreciation to whoever has impressed you, or more likely because of the writing/ posting / time it takes to be delivered / you put the matter off.

E mail is the answer.

If every dancer was accorded an e mail address on the ROH web page (suitably under their biography and face picture ) then we could all let the members of the company know how much we appreciated a particular performance/or a particular dancers efforts .

I know there is a huge appreciative audience out their for the members of the Royal Ballet, but do the dancers actually realise that, i doubt it. After each performance there are always a small crowd of well wishers at the stage door to see the dancers, but is that enough.

By people like ourselves letting the dancers know what real ballet lovers think about their dancing would i hope be very much a positive/appreciated step.

What do you all think ???????.

It would cost the ROH, next to nothing to set up a hotmail account for each dancer ( e mail addresses are free), so some time this wek end i will e mail the ROH to suggest this idea .Anyone else want to suggest it as well?????

Thanks for Your Time

David


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Bruceadmin

26-01-02, 02:53 PM (GMT)
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12. "RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal Ballet. "
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   I'm aware of some RB plans to do much more on the web and if even half of it comes to fruition they will probably be in advance of every other ballet company website I'm aware of it. I'm sure we will hear more as and when things are ready.

With regard to email accounts and dancers: I think its a nice idea, built as it is on ideas of thanks and praise.... but there is a 'but'. Not everybody is happy all the time with what they see and some can be exceedingly hurtful if they choose, hiding behind anonymous email etc. Everybody needs to be well aware of the downside as well as the upside of such an initiative.

In any event I think if you like a dancer, or performance generally, you might well tell the wider world about it and hopefully encourage more and wider support.... one to one praise is nice but telling everybody is nicer! But I'm not interested in a Hello site or postings where everybody is great etc - not everything we see is always rosie and we owe it to ourselves and all concerned to say, in a constructive way, when things are amiss.


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jhanner

29-01-02, 03:48 PM (GMT)
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15. "RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal Ballet. "
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   this is an idea taken up by of all things the Australian cricket team as well as football clubs. They have a facility to email players/ask general questions and then the (usually pretty facile) comments are put onto a bulletin board. This is a bit hello like at time...

A better example is a football club- Charlton offer a similar message board to discuss the club/players. THese are of course moderated and dont allow direct access to the players so get around the problems of abuse/cyber stalking. The charlton website isnt v.hello but actually a pretty good discussion of current issues with some good feedback from the club

I think it would be a good idea to have something to discuss RB/issues directly on its website.


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alison

29-01-02, 01:08 PM (GMT)
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13. "RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal Ballet. "
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   Yes, a nice idea, but very open to abuse, I'm afraid - imagine being "stalked" via email or something. I believe the dancers at ENB had email accounts, but I don't think the addresses were made public.


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sylvia

29-01-02, 01:31 PM (GMT)
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14. "RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal Ballet. "
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   I've heard and read a few things about a message board coming up soon on the ROH website. I imagine it would be fine to thank individual dancers there and will probably be moderated too.


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Viviane

29-01-02, 06:14 PM (GMT)
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16. "RE: dancers-email/message board."
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   Well, I really don't see the benefit of all this ! And I don't want to generalize this topic into the sports-world !
OK, RB is not the exponent of an 'ideal world'...read : 'there is a lot of lack in good communication : f.i. anouncements, casting-info, general info ....but one is working on this ...I presume ? And, indeed .... one need 'urgently' good info about the dancers, with biographies, pictures... maybe they can find some inspiration in the re-designed website of "Les Ballets de Monte-Carlo" ? : http://www.balletsdemontecarlo.com (unfortunately the 'English'-section isn't working !)
You get informed immediately about the current performance and can choose between a fascination 'Diaporama', a wonderful 'Portfolio' and even a film 'the making of...' to know more details and have a 'taste of the atmosphere 'of the ballet.
Have also a look at the dancers-pages :
http://www.balletsdemontecarlo.com/presentation_fr/index.html?danseurs.html
the principals-biographies are provided with video-pieces and you can 'hear' all dancers introduce themselves. Nice to 'hear' the different characters...but one can ask if this is worth all the effort ? I don't think I will listen a second time Even the answers to questions by the Artistic Director are no more than a 'fait-diver'.
Yes, I think it's the task of the company to profilate themselves and their dancers to the world and nowadays one expect more openness, but we don't need to go that far !
Honestly, I don't think most of the dancers are really interested in direct contact through email ! Does really everything have to become 'mediatized' and what kind of benefit will bring this all to dance itself ?
Ask the webmasters of dancer-related websites what kind of 'interesting' and 'relevant' questions they receive !!!
There are plenty of possibilities to have discussions about dance on the Internet, we have a splendid opportunity here on Ballet.co ! I prefer to see discussions centralised instead of surfing from RB to ENB...And why not - if the occasion occurs- send a compilation of readers-questions to a dance-company, I'm sure communication in this way is a better and more humane solution and is not so budget-consuming.
And for the die-hard fans : take the effort to send a 'personal'
note to thank your favourite dancer, I'm sure it will be hugely appreciated !


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alison

30-01-02, 01:20 PM (GMT)
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17. "RE: Putting a Name to the Faces of the Dancers of the Royal Ballet. "
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   If so, then I certainly hope so. After all, the ENB one wasn't, and look how that got abused.


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