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Jonathan S

23-12-01, 11:44 PM (GMT)
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"Ads and viruses"
   I've had more viruses and unwanted mail in the last month than I have since I owned a computer. I've had two viruses sent - unwittingly - by respected colleagues.

I used to think it would never happen to me, either.

It's nothing to do with ballet, but can I suggest that anyone who hasn't already, gets themselves some antivirus software, and updates their virus definitions at least monthly. It's not expensive, and it's becoming increasingly important to be protected - not just your computer, but people who might receive viruses from you too.

In addition, I recently discovered a strange program called CD_LOAD.exe trying to access the internet for me. When I checked this out, I found that this is a pretty nasty kind of ad profiling software. I then discovered Ad-Aware, free (and only about 880k) from http://www.lavasoft.de/. When I ran it on my machine, I was amazed to find out how many ad profilers were sunk deep into my registry, which I had absolutely no idea about. Ad-aware hunts them all out, and gets rid of them.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Ads and viruses Bruce Madmin 24-12-01 1
     RE: Ads and viruses Jonathan S 24-12-01 2
         RE: Ads and viruses pmeja 24-12-01 3
             RE: Ads and viruses Viviane 24-12-01 4
  RE: Ads and viruses margaret lumley 26-12-01 5

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Bruce Madmin

24-12-01, 07:18 AM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Ads and viruses"
In response to message #0
   >It's nothing to do with ballet,
>but can I suggest that
>anyone who hasn't already, gets
>themselves some antivirus software, and
>updates their virus definitions at
>least monthly.

Agree with all this except with allowing the updating to go for up to a month - thats far too infrequent I think (though better than nothing!).

I think people should be looking to do this every few days. A week is a long time even. Alexandra over at BalletAlert does it every day I think. Very wise.

I'm using Norton and it seemes to have a setting that will cause it to go off and update in the background whenever you are on line. If I sound a little caucious its because I use ADSL/Broadband and it might just work differently for Modem users.

The other thing worth considering is ditching Microsoft for doing email. Most viruses target shortcomings in Outlook and while MS has fixes each time something is found, few people apply them and some Viruses are coming around a second time even. Better to use another email client since it is far less likely to be targeted (and may even be built better!). For what its worth I use Eudora (http://www.eudora.com/) though its now used by very many and I'm starting to worry that it might be targeted at some point. However good anti-virous software scans all incoming email for you so I see it as double protection.

There are a lot of nasty people out there and the site gets attacked from time to time - particulalry when I'm on holiday I notice! A sad old world at times.

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Jonathan S

24-12-01, 10:05 AM (GMT)
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2. "RE: Ads and viruses"
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   >The other thing worth considering is
>ditching Microsoft for doing email.

I've come to this conclusion, too, and having tried Eudora I love it anyway, quite apart from the security aspect. I'm still midway between the two though - the full version (without ads)costs money, and transferring all my account details, message rules, addresses etc. will take some thought and time.

I also agree with you about checking for viruses at least once a week, rather than once a month. My brother thinks I'm mad not to have a digital ID and send encrypted mail where possible, so I've now paid my $14.95 to Verisign as well.

Computer and Internet sales people tell you everything is free, and that everything you need is already loaded and running on your shiny new compuer. No wonder so many people, if they have antivirus software at all never update it, and resent the (tiny) amount it costs to register for another 12 months of updates from Norton.

I find overcautious people boring, and I don't want to spend half my time securing my PC like a fortress, nor had I reckoned on 35 here, 7.95 there, $17.95 there on bits and pieces of software to do what other programs do for free. I now find, however, that this is not overcautious at all - it's the hidden cost of having a PC, and the hidden necessities of running one that that AOL woman in the silly dress would not dream of telling you about.

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24-12-01, 10:08 AM (GMT)
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3. "RE: Ads and viruses"
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   a related link from today's new york times:


very interesting article about spammers and the like and how they are proliferating, especially, it says, in the last 3 months.

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24-12-01, 10:18 AM (GMT)
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4. "RE: Ads and viruses"
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   In my country too, newpapers are reporting today about emailviruses. Past year one had to cope with an incredible increase. From 1 virus on 4.500 emails at the beginning of the year to 1 virus on every 400-500 emails last months !
Interesting website on this problem : http://www.Wildlist.org

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margaret lumley

26-12-01, 10:01 AM (GMT)
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5. "RE: Ads and viruses"
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   I unfortunately have been infected by viruses on three occasions in the last 6 weeks- and I used to update my Macfee virus checker every Sunday. After the second occasion- I update my virus checker every day and check my E_mail on my Palm before I log in. Most would think that is over the top- but the havoc 2 of these viruses has caused is considerable. On the third occasion the anti-virus software could not get rid of the virus at first- it meant that I could not use my laptop for 2 days while it was being got rid of. Do not underestimate the inconvenience this can cause

I can only apologise if I have unwittingly passed it on to anyone else.


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