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momo

11-12-01, 01:52 PM (GMT)
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"Winter Dreams"
 
   Does anybody know something about this MacMillan ballet?Is it a 3 act ballet?


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Winter Dreams jhanner 11-12-01 1
     RE: Winter Dreams AEHandley 12-12-01 6
         RE: Winter Dreams Bruce Madmin 12-12-01 7
             RE: Winter Dreams jhanner 13-12-01 8
  RE: Winter Dreams Bruce Madmin 11-12-01 2
     RE: Winter Dreams lara 11-12-01 3
         RE: Winter Dreams Richard J 11-12-01 4
  RE: Winter Dreams Margaret 11-12-01 5

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jhanner

11-12-01, 04:52 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Winter Dreams"
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   It was originally a pas de deux piece created for Bussell and Mukhamedov not long after he came to the RB , based I think on the three sisters by Chekhov. I think it was created after it came to light that the height gap (and the fact allegedly that Irek's style of "reality" acting in love scenes didnt coincide with Darcey's acting skills) wasnt going to work for them so a long term partnership was out. this was a sort of make up piece to get them working together.

The piece worked really well so they expanded it to a long one act ballet I think. You can get it on video I think with Darcey IRek and I think Viviana durante in it. At any rate, its a really good Macmillan piece and they often trot out the "farewell" pas de deux at galas. Amazon should have it (or the ROH shop) as I dont think its out of production.

I am sure others will be able to fill you in better than I on this


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AEHandley

12-12-01, 04:03 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: Winter Dreams"
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   I think you've actually got the chronology wrong here - MacMillan created the pdd on Darcey and Irek because everyone was thinking "wow, the next Fonteyn and Nureyev". Because it was created on them, around them, the problems that would be caused in (particularly) Manon due to the height difference didn't show up. When they came to rehearse Manon it quickly became apparent that they didn't really make a good pair unless the work was tailor made.


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Bruce Madmin

12-12-01, 05:52 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: Winter Dreams"
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   >I think you've actually got the
>chronology wrong here - MacMillan
>created the pdd on Darcey
>and Irek because everyone was
>thinking "wow, the next Fonteyn
>and Nureyev". Because it
>was created on them, around
>them, the problems that would
>be caused in (particularly) Manon
>due to the height difference
>didn't show up. When
>they came to rehearse Manon
>it quickly became apparent that
>they didn't really make a
>good pair unless the work
>was tailor made.

Absolutely right and to continue the story... Darcey and Irek were scheduled to dance in Manon that season - I think it was coming back after a rest. Irek was doing double time because he was also scheduled to dance it with Viviana Durante too.

The partnering problems in Manon between Darcey and Irek proved insurmountable and with something like 10 days to first night the partnership was withdrawn and it was announced that Viviana would cover for Darcey. There was a bit of sigh at that point - sad for Darcey and also many fans were booked for the 2 separate casts and would now see one twice.

The rest however is kind of history as Viv 'n Irek really set the place alight. I remember booking again to see them do it for a third time. I've always seem them do it over the years but there was something magic about the first run. It also had a lot to do with Derek Rencher (G.M.) who I always saw as almost as vital ingredient as them and regrettably as the decade continued he was afflicted by injury increasingly.

Sorry for twittering on but those performances were my all time favourites (to date!)


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jhanner

13-12-01, 01:01 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: Winter Dreams"
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   I agree -I never saw the first run, but the memory of Irek and Viv whenever I saw them in Manon still burns pretty strongly


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Bruce Madmin

11-12-01, 05:08 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: Winter Dreams"
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Some reviews of Winter Dreams (or sections of it in soem cases):
http://www.ballet.co.uk/cgi/reviews_database_search/db_search.cgi?production=Winter%20Dreams

Anybody can do a search of Reviews like this by going into the Links, Reviews - Advanced Search, page and typeing in the name of the production, dancer, company, or reviewer etc.


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lara

11-12-01, 07:18 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: Winter Dreams"
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   This is one of my favorite ballets with Irek. Shows his sensitivity and his strength - a couple of the leaps are amazing. The passion he brings to a role is unforgettable.

Adam Cooper has a nice role as one of the Hungarian soldiers and does a lovely pas de trois with Durante and, and....oh darn, forgot his name...Stephen ??

I can't see the problem with the height difference between Darcy and Irek here - perhaps the choreography minimizes it? It seems that most ballerinas are taller than their partners while on pointe.

www.dancebooks.co.uk has Winter Dreams video


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Richard J

11-12-01, 08:07 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: Winter Dreams"
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   “Dreams of happiness are frustrated by apathy, social convention and geographical circumstance and the family feels that it is in exile.”

This is taken from Kenneth MacMillan’s own programme notes, in which he says that although the characters in the ballet are named after those in the play (Chekhov’s “Three Sisters”), he did not attempt a balletic reworking of the whole story. Sometimes the choreography reflects the inner life of the characters, at other times the narrative. He also tried to capture the atmosphere and melancholy of Chekhov’s masterpiece.

The original idea for the music came after Kenneth MacMillan and Philip Gammon were listening to a recording of Tchaikovsky’s piano works, and were drawn in particular to the Romance in F, opus 51. This became the basis of the ‘Farewell’ pas-de-deux, which also included (as a change of style and mood) an arrangement of the song ‘Does the day reign?’ The pas-de-deux was first performed for the Queen Mother’s 90th birthday gala at the London Palladium.

The pdd was expanded into a one-act ballet. As well as piano music, traditional Russian music for guitar ensemble was also included. This was taken from the earliest published source of Russian traditional music - a source that would almost certainly have been known to Tchaikovsky and Chekhov.

I saw Winter Dreams in 1992; it was then fairly new, with Mukhamedov as Vershinin, the army officer who loves Masha, the middle sister (Darcey Bussell). (Unfortunately Masha is married to the local school teacher, Kulygin, though she feels somewhat trapped in her marriage, and in provincial life; Kulygin was played by Anthony Dowell). My lasting impression was that this is an intimate piece, and I would have loved to have seen it in a more intimate setting. The guitar ensemble was placed on stage behind the dancers.


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Margaret

11-12-01, 09:30 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: Winter Dreams"
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   Winter Dreams was broadcast by the BBC and the video I have is of that staging. It is one of my favourites and also includes a documentary about Irek called "The power and the Art".
The eldest sister (Olga) was danced by Nicola Tranha, the middle (Masha) by Darcy Bussell and her husband by Anthony Dowell. The youngest (Irina) was danced by Viviana Durante, with Stephen Wicks and Adam Cooper as the two rivals for her affection.
I think it was the first ballet that Macmillan created for Irek, who plays Colonel Vershinin.


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