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Helen

05-11-01, 05:41 PM (GMT)
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"Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
 
   In the December Good Housekeeping magazine there is a three-page article obout Darcey Bussell and Phoebe, with some gorgeous photos. Worth looking at.


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Wendy Glavis 06-11-01 1
     RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping sylvia 06-11-01 2
         RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Tomoko.A 06-11-01 3
             RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Helen 06-11-01 4
                 RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Carly Gillies 07-11-01 5
                     RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Anneliese 07-11-01 6
                         RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Anneliese 09-11-01 7
                             RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Shirley 09-11-01 8
                             RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Anneliese 09-11-01 9
                             RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping eugene merrett 09-11-01 10
                             RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Bruce Madmin 09-11-01 11
                             RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping jhanner 09-11-01 12
                             RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Anneliese 09-11-01 13
                             RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Shirley 10-11-01 14
                             RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Anneliese 10-11-01 15
                             RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Robert 10-11-01 16
                             RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Jim 10-11-01 17
                             RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Carly Gillies 11-11-01 19
                             RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Anneliese 11-11-01 20
                             RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Pete 11-11-01 21
                             RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Anneliese 11-11-01 22
                             RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Shirley 11-11-01 23
                             RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping Shirley 10-11-01 18

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Wendy Glavis

06-11-01, 01:42 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   LAST EDITED ON 06-11-01 AT 01:53 PM (GMT)

Thanks Helen, I'm just off to the shops!

By the way, I see on Darcey's web site:
http://www.darceybussell.com/

that there's a competition for children (run by the ROH and the Sunday Times) to win tickets for 'Nutcracker' on the 28th December to see Darcey and Jonathan. (And meet them afterwards! And win money to help with transport!!)

Unfair, unfair. Why don't they have competitions for older ballet fans?? (Who probably need the money more than the children do.)


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sylvia

06-11-01, 04:46 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   Ditto to that Wendy.

The newsletter also says that she'll be dancing Beyond Bach with Jonathan Cope - looking forward to that one. And wow - what really surprised me is that she was doing pointe work the week before her baby arrived.


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Tomoko.A

06-11-01, 06:28 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   I couldn't find a copy of the December issue anywhere ! There were only November ones and I was told December ones would be on sale this coming Saturday. I live in Salisbury, not too far away from London ! Helen, is it definetely in the December issue ?


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Helen

06-11-01, 09:18 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   Tomoko - and anyone else who can't find it - yes, it definitely is the December issue. I've just checked to make absolutely sure. I was given a subscription to GH as a present, and mine arrives through my letter-box, so perhaps I get it early.


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Carly Gillies

07-11-01, 01:06 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   Found my copy at Sainsburys today.
Nice piccies, but thought article about invisible underwear was more educational


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Anneliese

07-11-01, 08:52 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   For those interested in the gory birth details, the Hello! article was more informative, but the GH one was more "real"!


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Anneliese

09-11-01, 12:59 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   Note that Darcey said that the Sugar Plum was "one of the most technically difficult pieces, really exhausting and strenuous", and she used to watch Lesley Collier in "Ohmigod" amazement when DB was still a student.

I watched my BRB vid yesterday after reading this and thought yes, the female variation certainly requires much more control than eg Odette or Odile, and would seem more effortful from Darcey than Miyako, but it's much shorter than almost anything else in the rep.!!! Anyone else have a view here?

BTW Irek's work in this pdd was quite the best I've seen. I've never seen anyone partner a tutu fairy quite like this - his total focus was on Miyako, giving the impression of someone utterly in love with this beautiful fragile creature - not so much concentrating on showing her off and not dropping her as dancing with her, which we don't often see in the Tchaik ballets. It's hard to put into words but the partnership was wonderful. I think a lot of it was to do with eyeline and focus, if I try and analyse it, but it was impressive anyway.


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Shirley

09-11-01, 01:52 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   Annelise - have you seen Darcey perform the Sugar Plum Fairy for you to say she that it would be more effortful for her than Miyako. The last time I saw her I wouldn't say she made it look effortful at all.

Athough the actual time spent on stage for Sugar Plum is short in comparision to say Swan Lake, the variation for the female I believe is longer than Swan Lake act 3 and just as demanding.


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Anneliese

09-11-01, 03:46 PM (GMT)
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9. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   No, fair cop, I haven't seen Darcey's Sugar Plum. However, on the whole big dancers *seem* to put in more effort than tiny ones in certain types of mocement and Miyako is the most "effortless" of the RB principals, no question. That particular solo is so tightly held that it just seems to work better with shorter legs!

Do you really think that the variation is demanding compared with all the other big pdds? It was a serious question not a denigration of Saint Darcey - I wondered if it was a role that Darcey found didn't particularly suit her or if it really was a toughy or if it was just dodgy editing when all she'd said was it wasn't an easy role despite the fact that it only lasts a couple of minutes or something like that.

Perhaps I should repost this under a different heading to get more opinions?



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eugene merrett

09-11-01, 03:53 PM (GMT)
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10. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   Personally I want to see Darcey back where she belongs - in the Daily Telegraph and enlightening us about what is to be done about the Homeless!


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Bruce Madmin

09-11-01, 04:43 PM (GMT)
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11. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   Welcome back Eugene - the place is never the same without you!!


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jhanner

09-11-01, 04:48 PM (GMT)
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12. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   indeed -but GH is almost like a Telegraphs woman supplement so its almost as good a place for her.

Having briefly read the article, I think she may wish to rethink her Xmas decorations once Phoebe is up and about and trying to eat the ribbons on the tree


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Anneliese

09-11-01, 04:51 PM (GMT)
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13. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   She had a recipe slot in yesterday's Daily Mail - I think she's working hard to promote her new company! She didn't do a very good job at that in the GH article, though - if I hadn't known I wouldn't have known IYKWIM. Still, all good ballet publicity.

I am now going to start a new thread without the words Good Housekeeping in the title to get some more responses to my ballet question.


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Shirley

10-11-01, 00:46 AM (GMT)
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14. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   I tthought the article was about Ballet and not the new business.

Darcey's newsletter on her site said she was taking a back seat and had actually turned down press requests so I assume she is not actively seeking publicity for either herself or the new business!


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Anneliese

10-11-01, 02:57 PM (GMT)
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15. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   The article was about new parenthood, not about ballet. The HELLO! article pushed her business quite hard - I assumed this was the main reason she'd agreed to photoshoots etc.


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Robert

10-11-01, 03:46 PM (GMT)
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16. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   I do not like to criticise others but why do we always get so many bitchy remarks about Darcy Bussel? Is it just because she may have appeared more often in the Telegraph than the Guardian, which suggests to some that she may be a Tory? Or is it jealousy because she is talented and good looking and seems to lead an uncomplicated conventional married life with a successful husband? People even speculate about the details concerning the birth of her baby, it is most unfair and intrusive. Like all dancers she will not last forever and if she is thinking of what to do next that is understandable. Sensible dancers, football and rugby players have to plan for the future. Have a debate about her dancing ability by all means but leave her private life out of it.


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Jim

10-11-01, 04:03 PM (GMT)
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17. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   > article about invisible underwear was more educational

Eh? Care to elaborate?


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Carly Gillies

11-11-01, 08:48 AM (GMT)
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19. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   Ah now Jim, I wouldn't want to disillusion you.


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Anneliese

11-11-01, 04:08 PM (GMT)
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20. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   Was this aimed at me?

1) I have not been bitchy about Darcey Bussell
2) I asked after her baby was born whether anyone knew whether or not she'd had a c-section. Hardly "intrusive speculation" - a natural question as it would impact on her return to dancing.
3) Anyone who spreads their private life all over the glossies can't really complain when it's discussed


For heaven's sake I just wanted to know if her comment on the Sugar Plum was bad subbing or had basis in fact!


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Pete

11-11-01, 06:00 PM (GMT)
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21. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   Dear me....

1) Refer to 3)

2) This question was perhaps a little tactless at the time as most of the postings were in a congratulatory vein. Granted that at the time you had no idea of Darcey Bussell's difficult birth and maybe your question came from a deeply concerned fan eager to see her back on stage.

3) Seems to give negate your point 1), non?

Be nice!!


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Anneliese

11-11-01, 10:08 PM (GMT)
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22. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   I can't win. As a fellow mother who is part of an organisation that campaigns for good birth experiences for all I was interested in Darcey's birth story. That's all. What's wrong with that?

I cannot see why anyone should object to the fact that I said that I was surprised that the GH article didn't push her new company harder. After all, one assumes that she's in it to provide for her retirement, like the rest of us.

I originally posted here to try and find out if Darcey had been correctly reported. I had a serious ballet question that I wanted - still want - answered. Feel free to abuse me, though, if that gives you pleasure.


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Shirley

11-11-01, 11:06 PM (GMT)
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23. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   >I can't win. As a
>fellow mother who is part
>of an organisation that campaigns
>for good birth experiences for
>all I was interested in
>Darcey's birth story. That's
>all. What's wrong with
>that?

Nothing at all as long as Darcey is willing to talk about it. That was 4 months after the birth and even though all the things in Hello were true it was written rather dramatically! At the time of the birth very few people knew just what had happened and that was the way Darcey and Angus wanted it kept - hence very little press coverage when Phoebe was born.
>
>I cannot see why anyone should
>object to the fact that
>I said that I was
>surprised that the GH article
>didn't push her new company
>harder. After all, one
>assumes that she's in it
>to provide for her retirement,
>like the rest of us.

Perhaps that is because Ballet and Phoebe are her priorities just now - not the new company. Darcey said in her newsletter that she was taking a back seat in the company for now. Your original post said she didn't do a very good job promoting the company in the article - not that you were surprised that she didn't mention it very much.
>
>I originally posted here to try
>and find out if Darcey
>had been correctly reported.
>I had a serious ballet
>question that I wanted -
>still want - answered.
>Feel free to abuse me,
>though, if that gives you
>pleasure.

I don't think you have been abused Annelise. On the other thread I mentioned that Darcey had said before about Sugar Plum being difficult. I was surprised as well when she told me, but, even though Tomoko posted that Miyako had also said it was difficult that doesn't seem to be enough to answer your question. Perhaps someone else can offer a better explaination.

I do know that I was chatting at the stage door on Saturday and brought up the topic of Sugar Plum and a friend said other dancers have also mentioned how difficult the role is. I have forgotten exactly who it was that she said but they were all principals of either the RB or BRB. Sugar Plum isn't the same as dancing Odette/Odile (and I don't think any dancer would say it was) or any other three act ballet but it seems to be thought of as the equivalent of dancing Odile.


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Shirley

10-11-01, 07:04 PM (GMT)
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18. "RE: Darcey Bussell in Good Housekeeping"
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   The Hello! article was a double feature before and after the birth. I think it was a coincindence that the second feature was published soon after the launch of Bussell and Taylor. If I remember correctly Bussell and Taylor was supposed to be launched in April but was put back because of the earthquake in India earlier in the year which affected their workshops!


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