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Carolyn Ten Holter

17-09-01, 01:34 PM (GMT)
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"ROH's new website"
 
   Has any one else had problems with the revamped ROH website? The old one used to tell you who was appearing in which performance, and unless I'm being VERY thick you now can't find that at all. Very frustrating indeed.
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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: ROH's new website Sarah 17-09-01 1
     RE: ROH's new website Shirley 17-09-01 2
         RE: ROH's new website Sarah 17-09-01 3
             RE: ROH's new website eugene merrett 18-09-01 4
             RE: ROH's new website Shirley 18-09-01 7
  RE: ROH's new website Bruce Madmin 18-09-01 5
     RE: ROH's new website Robert 18-09-01 6
         RE: ROH's new website Sarah 19-09-01 8

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Sarah

17-09-01, 10:28 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: ROH's new website"
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   No Carolyn

You are not thick. Rather the ROH is not supplying cast lists, a fact that annoys me greatly. Especially as they are only too happy to take your money online and have you book for performances with only the synopsis to go on.

More than a little immoral and deeply deeply unprofessional.


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Shirley

17-09-01, 10:42 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: ROH's new website"
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   I wouldn't call it immoral.

Perhaps the RB web site has been asked not to advertise the casting or it is just an oversight. Has anyone actually e-mailed them to ask about this - you may receive an explanation.

On the other hand the RB could be moving towards the system some companies use where casting is not announced far in advance. (I think NYCB announce casting 2 weeks in advance.) I know some dancers would much prefer this and it may solve the problem of the audience being disappointed if someone advertised 4 months previously does not dance because of injury etc.

I would hate that myself as I book to try and see as many different dancers as possible but understand why companies and dancers may well prefer it.


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Sarah

17-09-01, 11:10 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: ROH's new website"
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   Well no it is immoral. Firstly a ticket is an extremely expensive item, you may book several many can only afford one. One deserves to know what one is spending money on.

Secondly, the cast lists are available in the written brochure, and should be on the site too.

Thirdly NYCB policy is to place rep over performer it is there artistic credo. This is not the Royal's.

Fourthly, the RB offers exchange tickets if a scheduled dancer is not performing, so management obviously sees this as being a valid part of the programming.

One has a right to know what one is paying for and this includes dancers too. Even if one is ambivalent about who one sees it is an essential part of the performance and therefore one has a right to know about all aspects of the performance. At 63 a ticket this is a moral obligation on the part of the company.


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eugene merrett

18-09-01, 00:49 AM (GMT)
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4. "RE: ROH's new website"
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   It is disappointing that the web site does not have the casting information.

I have always felt that too many web site are more concerned with design then timely and relevant information. The result is material that is in complete or out of date.

What is wrong with having latest info and back ground material in old fashion text format which can be put on the site very quickly.

Even simpler is to have the brochure on a pdf file for downloading or easy access.


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Shirley

18-09-01, 09:10 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: ROH's new website"
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   >Well no it is immoral. Firstly
>a ticket is an extremely
>expensive item, you may book
>several many can only afford
>one. One deserves to know
>what one is spending money
>on.

Yes I book several but in order to see more shows I stand for most of them, sometimes seeing 10 or 12 shows for the price someone may spend on one ticket. I prefer it this way but I still like to know who is dancing even though I may have spent less.

>
>Secondly, the cast lists are available
>in the written brochure, and
>should be on the site
>too.

The casting this season has not all been advertised. In fact the casting I got for period two was a sheet of paper added in the booklet for friends. Not what you would call organised. They web site can't give casting if it has not been announced.
>
>Thirdly NYCB policy is to place
>rep over performer it is
>there artistic credo. This is
>not the Royal's.

This may be true but perhaps the RB is heading in that direction with the new AD. I believe Dowell used to complain about having to give out casting so far in advance.
>
>Fourthly, the RB offers exchange tickets
>if a scheduled dancer is
>not performing, so management obviously
>sees this as being a
>valid part of the programming.

Yes you can exchange tickets for shows but I think you will also find that tickets still state that advertised casting may be subject to change. This is an improved aspect of the box office as I don't think they did this in the past. They would resell tickets for you but don't think they exchanged them if a dancer was injured or changed performance dates - I may of course be wrong here.
>
>One has a right to know
>what one is paying for
>and this includes dancers too.
>Even if one is ambivalent
>about who one sees it
>is an essential part of
>the performance and therefore one
>has a right to know
>about all aspects of the
>performance. At 63 a ticket
>this is a moral obligation
>on the part of the
>company.

Yes I agree it is a major part of the performance but also many people book tickets not knowing the cast as dates are more important to them. It actually surprised me in the recent poll on Ballet.co that casting wasn't essential to more people.



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Bruce Madmin

18-09-01, 07:01 AM (GMT)
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5. "RE: ROH's new website"
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   I'm sure casting will come along. The site is very new and uses new technology (to ROH) and I think they saw the summer holiday as a time for shakedown of an initial release.

The site is now database driven and so should be more easily updated and updated by people in the organisation rather then webmasters. That's the theory and while no site ever appears to have all the information folks want, ROH now seem to have a better platform for the future.


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Robert

18-09-01, 06:50 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: ROH's new website"
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   I believe the Kirov had to be persuaded to publish cast lists for their London visit. I am not sure if that makes them immoral or just a bit naughty.


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Sarah

19-09-01, 09:40 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: ROH's new website"
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   Dear Everyone

I booked my ticket for DQ today over the phone at the ROH and the man on the end told me that it will be the intention at some point to include cast lists, though when they don't actually know.

However, he did advise me to send a message requesting cast lists to the web master at the ROH, through the site. Which I did. I think perhaps instead of posting here, we should all just send a message to the ROH suggesting that this might be in their best interests if the site is to be made full use of.


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