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Ann Williams

26-08-01, 01:05 PM (GMT)
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"More poll ideas"
 
   I would welcome fresh ideas for the poll, which we are hoping now to put up at least fortnightly, if not weekly.

So, keep those inspirations rolling in!


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: More poll ideas sylvia 27-08-01 1
     RE: More poll ideas pmeja 29-08-01 2
         RE: More poll ideas Fuzzyface 29-08-01 3
         RE: More poll ideas Robert 29-08-01 4
  RE: More poll ideas Lily 30-08-01 5
     RE: More poll ideas Lynette H 30-08-01 6
         RE: More poll ideas Lily 30-08-01 15
     RE: More poll ideas Bruce Madmin 30-08-01 7
         RE: More poll ideas pmeja 30-08-01 8
         RE: More poll ideas Jane S 30-08-01 9
             RE: More poll ideas pmeja 30-08-01 10
                 RE: More poll ideas pmeja 30-08-01 11
                     RE: More poll ideas Snn Williams 30-08-01 12
                         RE: More poll ideas Ann Williams 30-08-01 13
                     RE: More poll ideas Bruce Madmin 30-08-01 14
                         RE: More poll ideas Helen 30-08-01 16
                             RE: More poll ideas Bruce Madmin 30-08-01 17
                             RE: More poll ideas sylvia 30-08-01 18
                             RE: More poll ideas sylvia 30-08-01 19
                             RE: More poll ideas Bruce Madmin 30-08-01 20
                             RE: More poll ideas Steven 30-08-01 21
                             RE: More poll ideas pmeja 30-08-01 22
                             RE: More poll ideas Jane S 31-08-01 23
                             RE: More poll ideas Amy 31-08-01 24
                             RE: More poll ideas Bruceadmin 01-09-01 25
  Start of New Designer Poll Bruce Madmin 02-09-01 26
     RE: Start of New Designer Poll Helen 02-09-01 27
         RE: Start of New Designer Poll Alexandra 02-09-01 28
         RE: Start of New Designer Poll Bruce Madmin 03-09-01 29
             RE: Start of New Designer Poll Jim 03-09-01 30
                 RE: Start of New Designer Poll Ann Williams 03-09-01 31
                     RE: Start of New Designer Poll Jim 03-09-01 32
     RE: Start of New Designer Poll Bruce Madmin 04-09-01 33
         RE: Results of Designer Poll Ann Williams 10-09-01 34

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sylvia

27-08-01, 11:09 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   Not really inspired, but I don't think it's been done before so...

How about favourite ballet extracts as opposed to full-length ballets, e.g. Don Q pdd, R+J Balcony pdd, etc? Or what would you want to see if you could tailor-make your own gala?


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pmeja

29-08-01, 01:00 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   i'm sure this has been done before too, but what about casting a fantasy gala with anyone from any era? or does that not lend itself to a poll-type format?


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Fuzzyface

29-08-01, 04:19 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   Or how about dead/retired dancer that you really wish you had seen ie Nijinsky, Taglioni etc. (I've got a sneaky feeling that we have done this one before)


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Robert

29-08-01, 04:20 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   Put a few names up and we can all try and decide who Valerie and Venus are!


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Lily

30-08-01, 09:45 AM (GMT)
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5. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   How about...

Set and costume designers...

Which designer (past or present) would you want to design your sets and costumes for your chosen ballet?

I would choose Oliver Messel...


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Lynette H

30-08-01, 09:58 AM (GMT)
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6. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   I like the idea about designers. Our discussions here tend to concentrate on dancers, and we don't perhaps give as much credit as we should to others who contribute to the entire experience.

So - how about - who is the most accomplished designer for ballet

Messel
Georgiadis
Lez Brotherston
Other suggestions ?

Any thoughts on a similar list of favourite ballet photographers ?


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Lily

30-08-01, 01:16 PM (GMT)
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15. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   How about Oliver Messel's nephew - Lord Snowdon?


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Bruce Madmin

30-08-01, 10:59 AM (GMT)
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7. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   I like this one too.. but can't think of other designers at the moment. Messel is right on though


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pmeja

30-08-01, 11:01 AM (GMT)
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8. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   LAST EDITED ON 30-08-01 AT 11:03 AM (GMT)

they don't have to be alive, right?
so for photographers:
maurice seymour
fred fehl
dina makarova
ilya koltun (personal favorite even if no one knows who he is)
leslie spatt (the last three are nicely alive)


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Jane S

30-08-01, 11:02 AM (GMT)
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9. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   LAST EDITED ON 30-08-01 AT 11:03 AM (GMT)

Designer: Sophie Fedorovitch

Photographer: Keith Money


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pmeja

30-08-01, 11:04 AM (GMT)
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10. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   leon bakst?


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pmeja

30-08-01, 11:05 AM (GMT)
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11. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   karinska


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Snn Williams

30-08-01, 11:25 AM (GMT)
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12. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   ...and of course Picasso designed the unforgettable sets and costumes for Massine's 'Le Tricorne'. Hmm..this one's got legs...


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Ann Williams

30-08-01, 11:26 AM (GMT)
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13. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   For 'Snn' read 'Ann'!


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Bruce Madmin

30-08-01, 12:41 PM (GMT)
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14. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   >karinska


Yes, yes, yes, yes! (though I think she only did costumes rather than sets?)


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Helen

30-08-01, 04:00 PM (GMT)
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16. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   Peter Farmer? Benois? Osbert Lancaster?


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Bruce Madmin

30-08-01, 04:33 PM (GMT)
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17. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   >Peter Farmer? Benois? Osbert Lancaster?

love Lancaster!


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sylvia

30-08-01, 09:04 PM (GMT)
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18. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   Have to admit my ignorance in both photography and design, but I'll add my 2 cents anyway.

For photography

Roy Round - his work seems to be everywhere in american ballet
Lois Greenfield


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sylvia

30-08-01, 09:09 PM (GMT)
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19. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   And a perfectly ridiculous suggestion I'm sure in the majority view but I don't care. I thought the Swan Lake production was fantastic, and I know there are others in hiding who think likewise! If there's a poll of any kind, I'd love to include her just for all the controversy she's fuelled.

Yolanda Sonnabend.


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Bruce Madmin

30-08-01, 09:54 PM (GMT)
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20. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   I like the Sonnabend designs too - except the fly-fishing gear for Rothbart!

What about Maria Bjornson then?!! (RB Sleeping B)


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Steven

30-08-01, 10:09 PM (GMT)
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21. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   This is amazing! I thought I was the only person who liked those Sonnabend designs. I'm so sorry that we won't be able to see that production again - I went to the last performance and savoured every moment.

However, I never liked the Bjornson Sleeping Beauty. I prefer the BRB's production with the Philip Prowse designs.

However, here's a poll idea:

Which 'retired' production (and you could include six or seven suggestions) would you most like to see revived?


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pmeja

30-08-01, 10:17 PM (GMT)
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22. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   oliver messel's 1949 sleeping beauty!


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Jane S

31-08-01, 08:32 PM (GMT)
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23. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   Though I don't personally think the Sonnabend Swan Lake works, I'd be very happy to see her on the list for some of the many things she did for MacMillan - the original designs for Symphony, for instance, and Rituals and Requiem - and for what she did for Michael Corder's L'Invitation au Voyage, which I liked so much that I've still got the poster on my kitchen wall, 19 years later.


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Amy

31-08-01, 10:33 PM (GMT)
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24. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   Gontcharova, Cecil Beaton, William Chappell.


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Bruceadmin

01-09-01, 05:01 PM (GMT)
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25. "RE: More poll ideas"
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   Beaton is good but have to draw this too a conclusion now will be going live with a new Mini-poll tomorrow


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Bruce Madmin

02-09-01, 01:10 PM (GMT)
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26. "Start of New Designer Poll"
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I've just put the poll up.

You can see how we arrived at the list we did from some of the above thoughts and exchanges. I suspect that no list would be right for eveybody so do please add any complaints(!), new or fresh thoughts below...
(& thank you!)


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Helen

02-09-01, 03:40 PM (GMT)
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27. "RE: Start of New Designer Poll"
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   I think you mean Osbert Lancaster, not Osbert Sitwell!


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Alexandra

02-09-01, 11:00 PM (GMT)
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28. "RE: Start of New Designer Poll"
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   I'm voting Other, but I wanted it known that I mean Sophie Fedorovitch!


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Bruce Madmin

03-09-01, 04:35 AM (GMT)
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29. "RE: Start of New Designer Poll"
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   >I think you mean Osbert Lancaster,
>not Osbert Sitwell!

Opps - correct and now fixed


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Jim

03-09-01, 08:49 AM (GMT)
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30. "RE: Start of New Designer Poll"
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   If you ever consider photographers I'd have to go for Giles Tapie.


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Ann Williams

03-09-01, 10:58 AM (GMT)
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31. "RE: Start of New Designer Poll"
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   I wonder why, Jim?


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Jim

03-09-01, 05:34 PM (GMT)
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32. "RE: Start of New Designer Poll"
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   >I wonder why, Jim?

He seems to have a gift for taking the most mouth-watering of piccies...


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Bruce Madmin

04-09-01, 06:34 AM (GMT)
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33. "RE: Start of New Designer Poll"
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I just came across the follwoing site with a collection of Ballet Russe backdrops - was looking for things on Bakst:
http://www.butler.edu/dance/br_scenery.html


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Ann Williams

10-09-01, 11:52 AM (GMT)
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34. "RE: Results of Designer Poll"
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Leon Bakst 30.8%
(Barbara) Karinska 21.2%
Nicholas Georgiadis 19.2%
Other 9.6%
Peter Farmer 1.9%
Maria Bjornson 1.9%
Osbert Lancaster 0.0%
Pablo Picasso 0.0%

Firstly, my apologies for omitting Fedorovitch. It was totally accidental - she was on my original list but I somehow mnanaged to leave her off the list I submitted to Bruce. Oh, and while I'm at it I might as well confess that the 'Osbert Sitwell' howler was mine too...

There are no particulr surprises in these results, I think, apart from Osbert Lancaster's lowly position given the sunny glory of his 'Fille' sets. But chacun son got, I suppose.


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