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Ann Williams

31-07-01, 04:21 PM (GMT)
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"Next poll"
 
   Bruce will shortly be putting up the results of the current poll, but meantime I've had an idea for next week's poll. What about 'which ballet might make a first-time ballet viewer become a lifelong dance fan?' No need to stick strictly to ballet - all forms of dance are acceptable, ranging from Tap Dogs to Balanchine's 'Agon' (that's the widest stretch I can imagine..). We're aiming for a choice of about eight different works, so any ideas would be most welcome.


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Next poll Paul A 31-07-01 1
     RE: Next poll helena 31-07-01 2
         RE: Next poll pmeja 31-07-01 3
             RE: Next poll Liz P 31-07-01 4
                 RE: Next poll Anneliese 05-08-01 14
  RE: Next poll Bruce Madmin 01-08-01 5
     RE: Next poll sylvia 02-08-01 6
         RE: Next poll Brendan 02-08-01 7
             RE: Next poll Pete 02-08-01 8
     RE: Next poll AK 03-08-01 9
         RE: Next poll sylvia 05-08-01 13
     RE: Next poll Margaret 03-08-01 12
  RE: Next poll Jane S 03-08-01 10
     RE: Next poll helena 03-08-01 11
         RE: Next poll Sonja 07-08-01 16
  RE: Next poll Isobel Houghton 06-08-01 15
     RE: Poll Results Ann Williams 18-08-01 17

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Paul A

31-07-01, 04:39 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Next poll"
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   Elite Syncopations

Fountain of Bakchisarai

Edward II

Aureole

Onegin

Fille

Coppelia

- yes those have did it for me or restored my faith!


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helena

31-07-01, 06:02 PM (GMT)
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   for me the sheer beauty of dancing that is showcased in balanchines serenade is undeniabley moving and even though one would think it would not hold a newcomers attention as it is plottless its elegance and fluidity is captivating!!!


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pmeja

31-07-01, 09:41 PM (GMT)
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   facade.

swan lake.

coppelia

gaite parisienne


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Liz P

31-07-01, 10:03 PM (GMT)
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   Romeo and Juliet every time

Some other possibilities
Swan Lake
Swan lake (Bourne)
Manon

I'd also add Nutcracker and Coppelia as ballets children often see first.

I remember being completely bowled over at fifteen when I first saw Troy Games


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Anneliese

05-08-01, 10:32 PM (GMT)
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>
>I remember being completely bowled over
>at fifteen when I first
>saw Troy Games

Me too! (at about the same age!) I love that piece! And The Green Table is another work that might convert a certain type of person.


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Bruce Madmin

01-08-01, 08:09 AM (GMT)
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5. "RE: Next poll"
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   Well I'm putting up a list that I know Ann had up her sleeve at the outset. Its such a great list I think..

Bintley's "Still Life at the Penguin Cafe"
Forsyth's "In the Middle"
Christopher Bruce's "Swansong"
Matthew Bourne's "Swan Lake"
Mark Morris' "Sandpaper Ballet"
Ashton's "Fille mal Gardee"
MacMillan's "Romeo & Juliet"

My first ballet ever was Swan Lake (a Russian one) and both Still Life and Swansong made me think that dance/ballet could cover a hell of a span.

Anyway this is a great poll idea I reckon and I'm still not sure how I'll vote...


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sylvia

02-08-01, 09:44 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: Next poll"
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   Rather obvious choices mine...

Romeo and Juliet
Swan Lake (both Petipa + Bourne)
Coppelia
The Dream
Theme and Variations
Jewels

A buddy of mine suggested Giselle. I think Giselle (my favourite no less) has a bit of a mixed reaction from new audiences, from instant addiction to complete boredom.


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Brendan

02-08-01, 10:02 PM (GMT)
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   Fille certainly. Also Swan Lake (Petipa). Its redemptive power resonates for me everytime I see it.


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Pete

02-08-01, 11:49 PM (GMT)
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   LAST EDITED ON 02-08-01 AT 11:54 PM (GMT)

A toughie!

I think it all depends on the age & attitude of the potential convert.....
for a child I think Swan Lake (Petipa/Ivanov) definitely. For an adult, Bourneís production may be more relevant. (although I prefer Petipa!)

Sleeping Beauty
The Nutcracker
(Deaneís for the nippers & Wright/Ivanov for both)
Coppelia
Midsummer Nights Dream
Giselle
Romeo & Juliet

(Iíve never seen Sandpaper Ballet, Iím looking forward to it now!)

Dreary and unimaginative many may say, and I agree to a point. We do get tired of the same production rolled out at Christmastime year after year, but maybe it is justified if it recruits new ballet fans...


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AK

03-08-01, 07:12 AM (GMT)
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9. "RE: Next poll"
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   Great list Bruce-very glad to see Swansong on it - I know children are supposed to start at Nutcracker and Coppelia (my own did ) but my grand daughter was a huge fan of Swansong when she was only just able to talk and at 4 watches intently most of what Rambert do but still aspires to be Aurora sweeping down the staircase!


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sylvia

05-08-01, 06:06 PM (GMT)
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   I'm tempted to add A Month in the Country after Saturday night. I've never been so entranced before. But I don't think children take to it too well. During the matinee there were lots of noisy squirmy kids in front of me and on my right who looked bored and wondering when the action was going to start.


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Margaret

03-08-01, 07:11 PM (GMT)
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   I am very interested in this poll as I am looking for a ballet to take my daughter-in-law to. She has never seen any ballet, enjoys theatre, musicals etc and would like to come 'to see if I like it'. My thoughts originally when we fist talked about it were - Fille or Romeo and Juliet

As Fille does not seem to be on during this season, it will probably be Romeo and Juliet (it being her favourite Shakespear). We are also thinking of A Christmas Carol which is on at Woking before Christmas - I have never seen this, can anyone comment on how suitable it is? Thanks.


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Jane S

03-08-01, 03:04 PM (GMT)
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   I'd like to see something for people who might immediately fall in love with 'patterns and music' ballet - Serenade probably.

And maybe Alvin Ailey's Revelations? - one of the most irresistible-at-first-sight pieces I know.


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helena

03-08-01, 05:47 PM (GMT)
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   JANE i agree with u tottally!!! sometimes the sheer beauty of somthing so simple like the begining of serenade is enough to bring tears to ypurds eyes ....it certainley did for me the 1st time i saw it!!


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Sonja

07-08-01, 11:29 AM (GMT)
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   ...depending on the age of the "first-time viewer":
For the younger ones definitely La Fille;
otherwise Romeo or Onegin for those who like the stories.
My "personal eye opener" was Don Q - for the sheer fun of it!


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Isobel Houghton

06-08-01, 02:42 AM (GMT)
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   Dear Ann

An idea for a future poll: "Is the British school still able to train dancers with the required virtuosity demanded by modern ballet companies/audiences?"


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Ann Williams

18-08-01, 11:45 AM (GMT)
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17. "RE: Poll Results"
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   Question:

Which of these might turn a first-time dance viewer into a lifteime fan?

Results:
Swan Lake (trad) 30.1%
Swan Lake (Bourne) 15.4%
Serenade 9.8%
Romeo & Juliet 9.8%
Fille mal Gardee 8.9%
Still Life 8.9%
Swansong 6.5%
Other 6.0%
Coppelia 4.1%
In the Middle 2.4%

We are full of surprises! I never would have put the traditional Swan Lake first on this particular list - too complex and remote from real life IMO, but there you go. I'd agree about Bourne's SL though, but I'm surprised that 'Fille' wasn't placed higher - I would have put it in first place! Glad that the beloved 'Serenade' did well, though..

'Other' scored higher than either 'In the Middle' or 'Coppelia'. Hmm...wonder what it's like?


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