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Ann Williams

28-07-01, 11:59 PM (GMT)
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"Ismene Brown in the Telegraph today"
 
   I thought Ismene Brown's piece in today's Telegraph on Dowell's performance as the RB's AD was both thoughtful and thought-provoking. She makes one point, however, that I think needs clarification (at least to me). She states that 'The Royal Ballet School's decline under (Dowell's) contemporary Dame Merle Park contributed to his problems...'

Does anyone here know if it is a general opinion that the RBS declined under Dame Merle's leadership rather than Ismene Brown's own opinion?


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  RE: Ismene Brown in the Telegraph today Bruce Madmin 29-07-01 1
  RE: Ismene Brown in the Telegraph today Bruce Madmin 29-07-01 2
     RE: Ismene Brown in the Telegraph today martinjay 29-07-01 3
         RE: Ismene Brown in the Telegraph today Bruce Madmin 29-07-01 4

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Bruce Madmin

29-07-01, 06:31 AM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Ismene Brown in the Telegraph today"
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   the link:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=005643547143274&rtmo=V1u5VPkx&atmo=rrrrrrrq&pg=/et/01/7/28/btdow28.html


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Bruce Madmin

29-07-01, 07:12 AM (GMT)
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2. "RE: Ismene Brown in the Telegraph today"
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   A good piece, though personally I think the Percival one last week had a slightly wider sweep (http://www.danze.co.uk/dcforum/happening/1899.html)

Re the RBS I'm on the very edge of my understanding, indeed probably gone over, but I'll put down a brief thought or two which will hopefully coax out more rounded (and correct?!) views.

The RBS created by de Valois had its own pretty unique training - a mishmash of things she had picked up and welded together. It gave RB/SWRB young dancers that fitted in and ultimately helped give the companies a unique style, and one which was dearly loved.

As I understand it Park has made the training much more mainstream on the basis that ballet is now more international and ultimately they are creating dancers for not just RB/BRB. Of itself this does not seem an outrageous thing to do - why create a special product when only a proportion get jobs in those companies? In any event RB and BRB have changed and take in more dancers from 'outside'.

The problem seems to be that a schooling that seemed to work - at least in some dimensions - has been replaced by something which appears to have struggled in the implementation. The result seems to have shown up as less winning in international competitions and fewer stars being developed (in this I don't count those who might do a final year in the upper school). The RAD Adeline Genee competitions have regularly been dominated by non UK entrants and in that its possible to see why the school is now run by somebody from 'outside'.


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martinjay

29-07-01, 01:34 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: Ismene Brown in the Telegraph today"
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   I found the article to be well-balanced, thought provoking and, I think, about right. Time will tell.

Regarding the School, I don't know enough and can't therefore comment usefully, but Bruce, does it matter a great deal if British trained dancers don't win competitions?


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Bruce Madmin

29-07-01, 09:38 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: Ismene Brown in the Telegraph today"
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   >but Bruce, does it
>matter a great deal if
>British trained dancers don't win
>competitions?

Of course it does! Most of the best Principals have won competitions when they were younger. Not sure if anybody has done the research but I suspect that success in competitions is one of the single best predictors of future high success - in ballet particularly. And of course anybody at a dance school has already effectively won several competitions just to get into the school. But none of this means that lack of success in competition bars you from making it into the big league.



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