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helena

23-07-01, 05:36 PM (GMT)
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"where is Mr B?"
 
   i know the details of the RBs new season have been released a while back and overall it looks like an exciting programe lots of new work and not too much of oone choreographer. i do however feel it is a shame that there is no balanchine or robbins work included.
i know it is hard to stage balanchine what with the balanchine trust but i do feel i would like to see mayube even just one peice of his this season.
i know the royal has been using robbins the concert to pad out its mixed bills for the past few years but he did create many other ballets!!! and i would love to have the opportunity to see some of those!

anyway id love to hear everyones thoughts on the matter!!


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: where is Mr B? Hannah 29-07-01 1
     RE: where is Mr B? helena 30-07-01 2
         RE: where is Mr B? Catherine 30-07-01 3
             RE: where is Mr B? helena 30-07-01 4
                 RE: where is Mr B? Anneliese 30-07-01 5
                     RE: where is Mr B? helena 31-07-01 7
                         RE: where is Mr B? Anneliese 31-07-01 9
                 RE: where is Mr B? Catherine 31-07-01 6
                     RE: where is Mr B? helena 31-07-01 8

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Hannah

29-07-01, 10:11 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: where is Mr B?"
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   If you get the chance you should try and see San Fransico Ballet at the Opera House in August, they will definately be dancing Balanchine (P.S I am sorry the bad spelling, it's never been my strong point)


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helena

30-07-01, 02:10 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: where is Mr B?"
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   yeh thanx i will try to go see it!! its a shame though that the only representation of balanchine is from visiting companies!!


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Catherine

30-07-01, 04:55 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: where is Mr B?"
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   Worst is the same thing at POB, even if we have two pieces of Balanchine next year with Prodigal Son and Violin Concerto and I forgot Western SYmphony (three movements version by School of Dance). Mister B Repertory is so rich and so unknown. We have piece in POB they don't dance since 10 or 20 years. It's a true shame. Is it because Balanchine trust ask for money to make repeat his ballets. I don't know. It's true that we have the luck to have full length Jewels since next season, but I think Mister B is forgotten by all the classical troup and even they dance it as Kirov or POB, they always dance the same ballets.
At POB dancer as audience dreams about Who Cares ?


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helena

30-07-01, 07:50 PM (GMT)
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   at least you have a few of his works!
this is not going to be a popular opinion but i think the brithish overlook balanchine in their constant obbsession with macmillan!


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Anneliese

30-07-01, 09:53 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: where is Mr B?"
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   I think that your opininon will be a bit more popular than mine - i don't actually think much of Balanchine's choreography - having liked several works at first sight, closer acquaintance has made me think "dull, repetitive" in many cases. This particularly applies to Serenade, and to a lesser extent to Symph. in C. His Midsummer Night's Dream had one good pdd and that's it IMO. A bit hard to put my finger on exactly why, but I think the steps are just not as interesting as Ashton's, and no character ever comes through - just pretty patterns on a stage. For me, Ashton wins every time!


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helena

31-07-01, 02:18 PM (GMT)
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   annelise maybe the reasons u find the charachters lacking in serenade is beacause it is a plotless ballet!!! maybe u would enjoy some of his more humourus works such as stars and stripes or western symphony or his modern works agon,4 temperments etc......


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Anneliese

31-07-01, 08:58 PM (GMT)
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9. "RE: where is Mr B?"
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   Even in a plotless ballet you can project character!


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Catherine

31-07-01, 12:27 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: where is Mr B?"
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> this is not going to
>be a popular opinion but
>i think the brithish overlook
>balanchine in their constant obbsession
>with macmillan!

You are lucky to see MacMillan works or Ashton works because in France they always forget the great french choreographer as Lifar. They never pass ballet from him.
English have the luch to conserve some tradition. Perhaps if I saw each year a piece by MacMillan or Ashton, I would want something else, but I think troup as POB or ROH must conserve tradition and repertory. They should give every year works from their famous choreographers as Lifar, MacMillan, Ashton and naturly Balanchine, Robbins (who is really a master too). You have the luck to see Onegin.

It's not at all the case in POB where they prefer make pleasure to direction than to audience and especially dancer. I don't know what you think about ROH season, but for POB, it's a very sad season next year with too many contemporary works. Each balle could be considerated as a little masterwork as Notre-Dame de Paris, Ek's Giselle, Preljocaj 'Parc but all in the same season just Bayadere and Don Quixote like you, it's very few. I'm sad they never do MacMillan works (except Manon which is a masterwork), or Ashton ballets. I dream to see all his ballets, from Birthday Offering to A month in a country.

To conclude, yes we saw ballets by balanchine but it's not the more interesting, and it's always the same. They should give other pieces we never saw than always take the same. Against we have the luck to have this three piece this year.
What do you think about Ross Stretton season. It seems from France, than achieved season was really interesting with this Dowell' season made for his pleasure with all the ballets he love and audience seems to love.


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helena

31-07-01, 02:21 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: where is Mr B?"
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   catherine, i feel ross strettons season has good foundations but is far too repetitive the long runs of giselle, romeo mand juliet andnutcraker are the same productions of the ballets that have been in the repetooire for at least the last 3 years!!
and of course there is no balanchine or robbins!!


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