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alison

14-04-01, 04:57 PM (GMT)
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"Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
 
   Well, just in case you weren't absolutely sure, a star is definitely born! Alina Cojocaru made a lovely Giselle in Act I -very bright and full of life (look at her Clara in the televised Nutcracker performance at Christmas for some idea) and she also did one of the best-judged mad scenes I've seen in a long while. Her madness was completely in character with what had gone before, yet it was obvious that something terrible had happened to her mind, and with her hair loose she looked unbelievably young and fragile. In the second act, she was suitably wispy and otherworldly, and danced beautifully, and you really felt her relief when dawn arrived and her beloved had been saved from the power of the Wilis. It makes me wonder how her Juliet would have been if she'd had time to prepare fully. She was very ably supported by Johan Kobborg as Albrecht (lovely dancing in Act II, where his beaten steps betrayed his Royal Danish heritage) and Alastair Marriott as a very sympathetic Hilarion. I was rather surprised that Kobborg played Albrecht rather low-key in the first act, especially when you compare it with his Romeo of a couple of months back, where his characterisation and interpretation was exemplary, but he certainly come through at the end of the second act, being very moving (and moved). I particularly liked the part where, while in his feverish circling of the stage with jumps, he nearly bumped into Giselle's grave, and the sudden realisation of his grief, even through his exhuastion, was heartrending to behold.

No time to write more now - will try and add a bit next week.


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee Stuart Sweeney 14-04-01 1
  RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee Claire S 14-04-01 2
     RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee Tomoko.A 14-04-01 3
         RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee Tomoko.A 14-04-01 4
             RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee meru 14-04-01 5
                 RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee Anneliese 20-04-01 10
             RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee Naoko S 15-04-01 6
     RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee Romi 17-04-01 7
         RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee Claire S 17-04-01 8
             RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee Mark 18-04-01 9
  RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee alison 23-04-01 11
     RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee Tony Newcombe 03-05-01 13
         RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee alison 03-05-01 14
             RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee Dame Antoinette Sibley 09-05-01 16
  RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee xandy 03-05-01 12
     RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee alison 03-05-01 15
         RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee S 10-05-01 17
         RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee Catherine Malynicz 12-05-01 18
  RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee Renee Renouf 12-05-01 19
     RE: Kobborg Michael LL 13-05-01 20
         RE: Kobborg alison 14-05-01 21

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Stuart Sweeney

14-04-01, 05:14 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
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   Many thanks Alison - I'm really looking forward to her performance on Tuesday evening.


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Claire S

14-04-01, 06:41 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
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   The Royal Ballet is blessed with some very fine Giselles but I have never been quite so moved as by this afternoon's performance. Cojocaru was delightful in act one and her mad scene, as Alison says, was very finely judged. She was a tiny abandoned waif and when she slipped from Albrecht's arms to fall dead on the floor, I felt a sense of shock - even though I've seen goodness knows how many Giselles before!

Act 2 was just stunning, with Kobborg really coming into his own. He's a dancer who acts every step and inhabits his role rather than just playing it. What an acquisition he has been for the Royal and I'm glad to see how much he's scheduled to dance in the summer season. If only we hadn't missed out on his Colas (lucky Washington)!

It was good this afternoon to see so many young dancers in good form. Nunez (peasant pas de six with Putrov) has a very warm stage persona, and I'd like to see Putrov given a chance at a leading dramatic role. The ladies have had more chances this season and have repaid Dowell's faith in them, what about the men now?

I've had some wonderful days/evenings at the ballet, but today truly ranks as an unforgettable one. I'd be interested to hear how it compared to Wednesday night.


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Tomoko.A

14-04-01, 07:39 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
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   I was there too and felt very fortuante to see Alina's debut performance as Giselle. It was not only the best Giselle I've ever seen, but also one of the best ballet performances for me. I don't normally cry watching Giselle, but today I just couldn't stop crying throuhout Act 1. When the curtain came down, I really felt exhausted as I was so into every second of the performance. I will never forget this Giselle as long as I live !!


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Tomoko.A

14-04-01, 09:50 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
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   Correction - I cried throughout Act 2 ! (not act 1)
Alison, I was looking around before the performance and during interval if you might be there. Schame I didn't see you.


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meru

14-04-01, 11:40 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
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   I thought Vennesa Palmer was very impressive as the Martha...
Though she was not very amused by the Russian conducter!


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Anneliese

20-04-01, 12:43 PM (GMT)
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10. "RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
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   I'm glad to hear that - I was offered the chance to go to the dress rehearsal with Vanessa's best friend but couldn't organise the childcare - I'd have loved to see her dance Myrthe.


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Naoko S

15-04-01, 11:20 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
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   I was there too and thoroughly enjoyed the performance. It's been quite a while since I last saw this production was led by a convincingly young dancer. Cojocaru was a fresh, innocent young girl in Act I who made anyone to feel like rushing onto the stage to protect her from the ordeals she's destined to go through. In Act II she was persuasive as a maiden who died with nothing but a pure faith in the existence of true love - though personally I didn't get the impression she utterly succeeded in creating a super-natural world. Unlike Tomoko, Giselle always draws me to tears (what a great ballet this is....); that afternoon Cojocaru's youthful, fragile Giselle moved me in a different way more a skilled/experienced ballerina could have done to the role.

That said, the biggest pleasant surprise came from another young dancer - Ivan Putrov. Indeed I was tempted to think how it would have been if he had been partnered with Cojocaru on the occasion. What a promising dancer he is - with a secure technique, a true prince-like-looks one day he would without doubt make a great danceur noble. A friend of mine told me he was originally from Kiev as Cojocaru; it's a great joy to see young dancers from my favourite company, Kiev Ballet, are achieving this good. I'm now really looking forward to seeing them together in RB's summer season (in SB pdd).


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Romi

17-04-01, 02:50 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
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   >I'd be interested to hear
>how it compared to Wednesday
>night.

Claire,
It is too difficult to make a comparison between Wednesday evening and Saturday matinee since the leading couple were outstanding on both performances as many have already said.
Both Rojo and Cojocaru danced Giselle beautifully and Kobborg, of course, was an excellent Alblecht and a partner. I think Cojocaru was really fortunate to have him as her partner on such a big occasion.
I found pas de six lead by Nunez & Putrov on Saturday looked strongly danced than one on Wednesday.
Also Vanessa Palmer's Myrtha on Saturday was better too... She has been so good everything she does this season (Her Harlot on Monday's 'R&J' matinee proved again this)
Having said that I enjoyed both performances all in all. Well, If I would've been given another chance to see either performance, I go for Cojocaru & Kobborg performance - but I know it really comes down to the personal taste.


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Claire S

17-04-01, 10:35 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
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   >It is too difficult to make
>a comparison between Wednesday evening
>and Saturday matinee since the
>leading couple were outstanding on
>both performances as many have
>already said.
>Both Rojo and Cojocaru danced Giselle
>beautifully and Kobborg, of course,
>was an excellent Alblecht and
>a partner. >

Thanks for the reply, Romi. I know how difficult it is to compare - I hate it when people ask "Who's your favourite Giselle" "your best Romeo" etc. You HAVE given me a flavour of Wednesday night's performance, though. I wish I'd been lucky enough to be at both.


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Mark

18-04-01, 02:05 AM (GMT)
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9. "RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
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   claire - if you read Ismene Brown in the Telegraph of April 17, she perfectly sums up the two performances. For me, Cojocaru was a glorious Giselle, much helped by Kobborg; but the Rojo and Kobborg combination was truly exceptional, an elemental performance such as one doesn't see very often. We are indeed lucky to have such unique and world class artists - many thanks to Anthony Dowell and Monica Mason.


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alison

23-04-01, 05:55 PM (GMT)
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11. "RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
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   Okay, since I can't edit this after more than 2 hours (since when's that, Bruce? I'm certain I've done it before!), here is what I can remember of the rest of my thoughts:

Something I forgot to say in my verdict on Cojocaru (written in great haste while waiting for a train) was that her Giselle in the second act was rather more flesh-and-blood woman, still desperately in love, than is usually portrayed.

Having given this a good write-up, and over a week since I saw it, I'm therefore still at a loss to know why, overall, I was still less than satisfied with the performance. It can't have been the principals, who were all fine, or the corps (ditto), yet I went away afterwards with a curious feeling of flatness, as if the ballet hadn't really got to me. Perhaps, ironically, it had something to do with the fact that, having been criticising ENB's production for not being as good on detail and overall as Sir Peter Wright's - and having since then seen a very good performance by ENB which overcame most of my criticisms - I felt that *this* performance was somewhat lacking. If I come to any more conclusions after seeing Rojo and Hatley in the role, I'll let you know.


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Tony Newcombe

03-05-01, 05:23 PM (GMT)
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13. "RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
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   Alison, I thought it was only me that had the same reservation about the second act. I agree with you about her being too much flesh and blood. It was still a remarkable performance but I feel that a lot of people have got a bit carried away. Where do you go after you have danced the perfect Giselle at the age of nineteen.


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alison

03-05-01, 05:45 PM (GMT)
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14. "RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
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   No, one of the critics mentioned it as well. I thought Belinda Hatley's interpretation was better there: the same almost-desperation to save her lover, yet at the same time you really felt she was now other-worldly.


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Dame Antoinette Sibley

09-05-01, 02:34 PM (GMT)
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16. "RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
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   Dear Alison

you really don't know what you're talking about. Cojocaru was the finest Giselle i have ever witnessed and God knows I've seen a few



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xandy

03-05-01, 05:09 PM (GMT)
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12. "RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
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   hi Allison,
I was reading the evening standard (I don't normally, i was just going somewhere on the tube and got one on the way in) and found an article on Alina Cojocaru and it has re-ignited my interest in ballet. I used to go with my parents when i was younger (i'm 21 now, so older than Alina!) so I have a vague knowledge of what it is all about. Today I was trying to find how to get tickets for Giselle, but i notice that she isn't doing it anymore. I decided that I would like to see her in other things, because she sounds fairly amazing (not being a technical purist of any kind, I would just appreciate how much she is doing at such a young age, which is an amazing achievement). After going to the Royal Ballet homepage and looking at the listing of future events I didn't really achieve much. Can you (or anyone else who reads this) help me? Could you recommend ballets for the fairly uninitiated but interested and particularly any with Alina in.
here is my e-mail: a.d.boxall@lse.ac.uk

thanks to anyone who helps me..


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alison

03-05-01, 05:50 PM (GMT)
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15. "RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
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   Hi, Xandy, and welcome to the site! I think if you look around here a bit (Contexts, maybe?) you'll find that Bruce has (or at least, he used to) some suggestions about accessible ballets.

Unfortunately, Alina isn't scheduled to be dancing anything much until the end of the season, apart from one Titania in The Dream and a performance or two of the Awakening pas de deux from the Sleeping Beauty. In a way, promoting her's done her a disservice, since as a First Soloist she would still have been dancing corps de ballet and small soloist roles, but now she's a principal most of those will be denied her. I fear she may be doing the balletic equivalent of sitting around twiddling her thumbs quite a bit this summer!

Can I suggest you re-post your enquiry about ballets as a separate item? It's got a bit lost down here on the bottom of a fairly elderly thread.

Good luck ...


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S

10-05-01, 12:54 PM (GMT)
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17. "RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
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   Hi Xandy,

I'm 21 too!
RB has a bunch of leaflets you can pick up at ROH detailing when Cojocaru will be dancing the Sleeping Beauty extract. The casting for those mixed performances look really good.


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Catherine Malynicz

12-05-01, 04:51 PM (GMT)
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18. "RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
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   ONLY Titania?? Personally, I'd love to see her in that. Not only is it one of Ashton's most wistful and beautifully crafted ballets, but the pas de deux and characertisations challenge even seasoned dancers. Short it may be, but as with all Ashton's work, full of quality and beauty. Xandy should take the time and make it a priority. After all, some of our most luminous dancers have proved themselves in this work - think of Sibley and Dowell, for starters, and then remember Sarah Wildor ...


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Renee Renouf

12-05-01, 05:21 PM (GMT)
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19. "RE: Cojocaru's Giselle- 14/4/01 matinee"
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   Heaven knows when The Royal Ballet will ever visit San Francisco again. It danced several memorable Giselles there. In particular, in the first of the two Giselles I saw with Fonteyn and Nureyev he convinced me in the second act that Giselle was a figment of his imagination, exactly as it should be, for both artists. My guess is, having seen Kobborg at the Jackson Competition, that he is capable of the same focus and intensity - an artist to his core.
It's also marvelous to notice that some of the post Fonteyn
generation read the postings. I have some marvelous memories of
Sibley and Dowell in The Dream on the stage here in San Francisco.


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Michael LL

13-05-01, 04:06 AM (GMT)
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20. "RE: Kobborg"
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   Renee - Just to say that I think Kobborg is the finest Albrecht now dancing. He is indeed capable of that intensity, and it worth travelling across continents just to see his entrechats in Act II !


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alison

14-05-01, 01:00 PM (GMT)
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21. "RE: Kobborg"
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   Oh yes, absolutely! And his landings were so quiet, as well. I remember thinking that ENB's Dmitri Gruzdyev, who's renowned for cat-like landings himself, would have sounded almost like an elephant in comparison!


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