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Catherine

11-03-01, 09:33 AM (GMT)
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"Review from Manon at POB"
 
   The first performance of the serial was last monday and at principal you have Fanny Gaïda as Manon, Nicolas Le Riche as Des Grieux, Kader Belarbi as Lescaut, and Delphine Moussin as Lescaut's mistress. Gaida removed Guérin injuried and who is not sure to dance next sunday.
The ballet is really wonderful, Mc Millan has so many idead of choreography and depincting all the caracters from the beggars to the prostitute, Every caracter is depicted with so many details that you can't see it in one performance.
Hervé Courtain was a briliant chief of the beggars, ligthy dance. As Monsieur de GM, Jean-Marie Didière is absolutely perfect, he's is unwholesome and hatable as wanted, Viviane Descoutures as Madame left her Maitre de corps de ballet for return to the stage for this completely mimed rule and was perfect too.
The problem of the performance was Nicolas Le Riche, he has not understood the Mc Millan style, I don't see his Romeo but read the english criticism, he has no style, he's not clean, and he plays too, it's not a play who come from the deep of the heart. It's Le Riche in Des Grieux not Des Grieux danced by Le Riche. He was really dispointing and the pdd between Manon and him were not believable, no emotion at all.
Fanny Gaïda is against a wonderful Manon a few too "deep" in her interpretation. She thinks too, Manon is someone who think just jewels, money, loves like a little girl Des Grieux, her interpretation in more one of a woman than a little young woman. But she danced well.
Belarbi in Lescaut is absolutely wonderful especially in the drunk pdd with Delphine Moussin and in his death where you're till crying so he depicted a devoted man.
Delphine Moussin whom is was the first Mistress after a first act a few down, was absolutely wonderful in the second act. She danced well and play too well too.
the corps de ballet of the girl was absolutely perfect. In two prostitute, Fanny Fiat and Cecile Sciaux were fun what it need. And in pd3 of gentleman, Isoart was a few up than Belem and Elizabé.
Other day, other cast
Aurelie Dupont as Manon, Jean-Guillaume Bart as Des Grieux, Yann Bridart as Lescaut and Delphine Moussin as Lescaut' Mistress.
Perhaps someone find this couple cold but for me they were wonderful, she is Manon by her youth, she has all understood in the rule, she is a young girl at the beginning with her first love, but she prefer Jewels and money and she is wonderful in the changing of spirit in the pd3 with Lescaut and GM. At the second act she is the established prostitue with the haughty tone which is necessary. And she was beautiful behind the geolier and in the final scene. The scene where she pass from arms to arms of the men is absolutely wonderful especially the second night where she is more technical perfect and more well acting.
Jean-Guillaume Bart has all understand at the Mc Millan's style he looks at Dowell or Legris for the french ballet lovers. His dance is pure and he acts well, not too, he is noble, cheater by love and his dance when he encounters a new time Manon in Madame' Salon is brilliant.
All the pdd were absolutely wonderful even the second performance, Aurélie slipped a few speeder from this arm in a porté in Room pdd, but she's not fallen, and only some personn saw this little fault. They are young, their dance is brilliant it's a beautiful couple who has the same style. Really a great evening for my eyes.
Yann Bridart is not the same Lescaut than Belarbi but he is interesting too and his drunk variation is very well made as his pdd but this last one make les laught than Belarbi with Moussin.
And LEscaut's death is less sad, but he is really good.
Moussin as Lescaut' mistress is better day after day.
Really a good idea to have again Manon, it's really a marvellous ballet.


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Review from Manon at POB Jim 11-03-01 1
     RE: Review from Manon at POB Catherine 11-03-01 2
     RE: Review from Manon at POB Sarah 11-03-01 4
     RE: Review from Manon at POB Susy 12-03-01 12
  RE: Review from Manon at POB Tomoko.A 11-03-01 3
     RE: Review from Manon at POB Sarah 11-03-01 5
     RE: Review from Manon at POB Catherine 11-03-01 6
         RE: Review from Manon at POB Ann Williams 11-03-01 7
             RE: Review from Manon at POB Kate R 11-03-01 8
             RE: Review from Manon at POB Marie 11-03-01 9
             RE: Review from Manon at POB Naoko S 11-03-01 10
                 RE: Review from Manon at POB Catherine 12-03-01 11
                     Guillem/Hilaire Eleonore 12-03-01 13
                         RE: Guillem/Hilaire Yuri 12-03-01 14
                             RE: Guillem/Hilaire Sarah 12-03-01 15
                             RE: Guillem/Hilaire Catherine 12-03-01 16
                     RE: Review from Manon at POB Naoko S 12-03-01 17
                         RE: Review from Manon at POB Catherine 13-03-01 18
                             RE: Review from Manon at POB Catherine 14-03-01 19
                             RE: Review from Manon at POB Estelle 14-03-01 20
                             RE: Review from Manon at POB Jim 14-03-01 21
                             RE: Review from Manon at POB Tomoko.A 14-03-01 22
                             RE: Review from Manon at POB Jim 14-03-01 23
                             RE: Review from Manon at POB Naoko S 14-03-01 24
                             RE: Review from Manon at POB Tomoko.A 14-03-01 25
                             RE: Review from Manon at POB Jim 15-03-01 26

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Jim

11-03-01, 10:44 AM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   >Really a good idea to have again Manon, it's really a
>marvellous ballet.

Catherine, you make me impatient to see this on Thursday. Some of my favourite choreography is in this ballet. Including the pd3 between Manon, Monsieur G.M. et Lescaut and, as you say, the flirting of Manon with all the men while the poor Chevalier watches helplessly. I have seen Guillem/Hilaire Manon partnership twice in London (and with Cope once), but I wonder how you think Yann Saïz will do as Lescaut? I really enjoyed him as the beggar chief in Paquita. In spite of my prejudices, I really do think Sylvie is superb as Manon and I'm sure it will be a good night.

Will there be any other ballet.co readers at this performance?


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Catherine

11-03-01, 11:59 AM (GMT)
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2. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   I don't know how could be Yann Saiz, he could dance well as Paquita and be awful in other way. I don't dare imagine him in this kind of rule against Lescaut'Mistress is Marie-Agnès Gillot and she is wonderful in this rule.
I saw Guillem last time she went to dance Manon at POB and she was well dancing even I prefer some other dancer, I enjoyed it. But in this rule she can't change choreography. I'm afraid against by the audience which is painful when she comes in Paris.


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Sarah

11-03-01, 01:50 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   >Will there be any other ballet.co
>readers at this performance?

Jim, I saw the performance yesterday (saturday, the 10th) with Guillem/Hilaire and Saïz/Gillot as Lescaut and his Mistress. It's difficult for me to say something about this performance because it was the first time I saw Manon. There's so many things to see in this ballet !


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Susy

12-03-01, 09:15 AM (GMT)
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12. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   Guido and I will be at Palais Garnier on Thursday, we look forward to meeting you!


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Tomoko.A

11-03-01, 01:48 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   Thank you for the review, Catherine. I wish I had been there!
I saw Le Riche's Romeo twice and din't think he had a difficulty in dancing the MacMillan ballet. His Romeo made me want to see his Des Grieux too. Was it his first time to dance in Manon ?


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Sarah

11-03-01, 02:14 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   Was it
>his first time to dance
>in Manon ?

Yes Tomoko, it was th first time Le Riche danced Des Grieux.


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Catherine

11-03-01, 02:29 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   It was the first time he's dancing Des Grieux in Histoire de Manon, but it's not to apologize him. Legris or Bart for their first approach of the rule have all understand of the Mc Millan style and the fluently choreography, stylised too. Not dance with strong.


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Ann Williams

11-03-01, 05:08 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   I saw the Friday night (9 March) performance with Dupond as Manon and Bart as des Grieux and, sad to say, I found their partnership utterly without chemistry - and if any ballet needs chemistry between the man and woman, Manon does. It was as if they were both dancing in their own worlds, scarcely aware of each other. I was especially disappointed because I had originally booked to see Guerin and Legris in the roles with Belarbi as Lescaut, but Guerin's injury prevented this. I can't help thinking how much better this older and more experienced team would have been, and it may be that, since both Dupond and Bart are wonderful dancers, their shortcomings here were due to their inexperience in the roles.

In the other roles, Delphine Moussin as the mistress danced exquisitely, but somehow missed the comedy the role demands. Yann Bridard, however, made a terrific Lescaut, totally in control in the drunk scene.

Apart from this, the production looked splendid; Hans-Ake Sjoquist's lighting made the second-act brothel scene really come alive - the room looked richer, deeper and somehow more sinister than I've ever seen it. In fact the second act overall was a great improvement on the first and Aurelie Dupond was in total, glittering control in the 'pas d'action' where she's passed from hand to hand; the whole thing looked very smooth and almost 'easy' - who was that very tall, very strong man who carried her high above his head? I think I heard Deborah Macmillan say that at one time they had had to drop that particular lift because they couldn't find a man strong enough to do it; POB have got the very man!

A word about the beggars. Apart from their excellent dancing, led by Miles Djiniadhis, I have never seen such a convincingly filthy bunch; I half expected to be able to smell them!

So, despite the disappointments, there was a lot of enjoy in the POB's 'Manon'.


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Kate R

11-03-01, 05:45 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   Ann - you should have stayed for Saturday afternoon. The Beggar Chief's time spent sniffing his armpits and grimacing at the audience that might have better employed concentrating on what his feet were doing. I wonder what Lady M would have said about that.


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Marie

11-03-01, 06:16 PM (GMT)
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9. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   the whole thing looked
>very smooth and almost 'easy'
>- who was that very
>tall, very strong man who
>carried her high above his
>head? I think I
>heard Deborah Macmillan say that
>at one time they had
>had to drop that particular
>lift because they couldn't find
>a man strong enough to
>do it; POB have got
>the very man!

Maybe it is Stephane Bullion.


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Naoko S

11-03-01, 10:37 PM (GMT)
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10. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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>I was especially disappointed because
>I had originally booked to
>see Guerin and Legris in
>the roles with Belarbi as
>Lescaut, but Guerin's injury prevented
>this. I can't help
>thinking how much better this
>older and more experienced team
>would have been, and
>it may be that, since
>both Dupond and Bart are
>wonderful dancers, their shortcomings here
>were due to their inexperience
>in the roles.
>


Sorry Ann, but your loss looks more likely to be my gain!

When I booked both Kylian Pro. and Manon it was the former I was rather interested - hoping that Legris would appear at least in one of the pieces (besides, Manon had never been my favourite ballet!) . Now I'm really looking forward to see Manon - especially after having missed to see Legris in another full length ballet; last month in 'Paquita' he was replaced by Martinez at the last minute!

Catherine et al, would you keep us updated on the casting info. - no further change for this Manon run?


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Catherine

12-03-01, 06:58 AM (GMT)
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11. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   I'm surprised Legris missed you in Paquita because he didn't dance the 5 february but was replaced by Bélingard, he danced all his previous dates with Osta, Dupont being injuried.
For the cast, it's not sure that Guérin will dance Manon, it could be Dupont with Legris. the 18, 24 (s) and 27,
this week 13 : Dupont/Bart
14, 24 m : Maurin/Romoli Delanoé or Bridart it seems that Lionel is perhaps injuried
15, 17 : Guillem/Hilaire/Gillot/Saiz
For Kylian Legris would dance Doux mensonges but we don't have again the dates. But by the artistic politic leaded by Direction too many dancer injury because, they dance in same time ballet of different style. It's not the same thing in Royal Ballet : Giselle or Fille mal gardée or Roméo et Juliette are ballets in same style even they are different, they required technic' basis. I'll try to say you cast till I would have it.


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Eleonore

12-03-01, 10:32 AM (GMT)
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13. "Guillem/Hilaire"
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   I saw the Guillem/Hilaire cast on Saturday. They were absolutely wonderful, especially in the first act pas de deux. Guillem's musicality and stage presence shone throughout the evening. I am not a great fan of Saiz's but I thought he was quite good as Lescaut.Did anyone else attend the performance?


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Yuri

12-03-01, 11:48 AM (GMT)
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14. "RE: Guillem/Hilaire"
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   I saw Manon with casts of Guillem/Hilaire on last Saturday. Guillem was perfect in terms of both technics and persence. Her interpretation of Manon was clear and made strong contrast in a changing position of this character. Saiz as Lescaut was brilliant, especially in the drunk pdd in the second act. I also saw Dupond/Bart, Gaida/Le Riche performances. I would say, Dupond/Bart's Manon was more exciting and passionate than that of Gaida/Le Riche. They danced well, but for me, that's it...


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Sarah

12-03-01, 04:55 PM (GMT)
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15. "RE: Guillem/Hilaire"
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   Eleonore, I also saw Guillem/Hilaire on Saturday.
It was the first time I saw Manon as I already said it.
I found Saïz was good as Lescaut and according to Yuri I found that he as well as Gillot were very good in the "drunk scene". What a pity that the "blood-pocket" didn't burst for Lescaut's death...

Juste une chose, Catherine, par rapport au public. Manon est un ballet très différent du Lac et autre Don Q où à chaque fin de variation ou de coda les gens peuvent véritablement crier bravo ! Dans Manon, c'est différent : les variations et pdd sont moins spectaculaires (je devrais dire "font moins d'effet", parce qu'il y a de superbes portés qui ne sont pas des plus faciles), la musique enchaîne souvent assez rapidement, il n'y a pas de saluts "pendant" le ballet et les lumière sont vite rallumées à la fin de chaque acte ; ce qui fait qu'il y a moins cet effet "d'hystérie" du public (à part à la toute fin bien sûr) et ça n'était pas désagréable !


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Catherine

12-03-01, 05:43 PM (GMT)
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16. "RE: Guillem/Hilaire"
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   J'avais vu Manon il y a deux ans et c'est vrai que le public était "sage". Ce ballet n'est pas un ballet à "cirque", comme vous le dites, la musique s'enchaîne et il n'y a pas de variations à proprement parler. C'est plus un ballet d'ambiance. Guillem m'avait bien plu il y a deux ans, excepté, le fait qu'elle n'avait pas la même robe au dernier acte. J'en ai gardé un bon souvenir même si Gaïda, Guérin ou Maurin, à l'époque je n'avais pas vu Dupont, m'avaient paru aussi bonnes et intéressantes.


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Naoko S

12-03-01, 11:34 PM (GMT)
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17. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   Catherine

Merci beaucoup pour info.!

>For Kylian Legris would dance Doux
>mensonges but we don't have
>again the dates.

As long as Legris is casted for the Kylian piece, odds are high he would dance on the first night...? Will keep the fingers crossed for that!


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Catherine

13-03-01, 07:02 AM (GMT)
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18. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   I think Legris must dance first performance of Doux mensonges it's the roll' creator. It will be with Gaida, Le Riche and Moussin.


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Catherine

14-03-01, 12:53 PM (GMT)
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19. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   it seems that Guillem would be injuried on foot and doesn't dance tomorrow night. it will be Gaïda who wille replace her; it's not completely sure but dancer weze pessimistic yesterday night. If she is injuried, it would be better she doesn't dance to not injury more.
it's not sure that Guerin will dance too. She makes the rehearsals of Manon but !!!


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Estelle

14-03-01, 01:25 PM (GMT)
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20. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   Il est affiche sur la premiere page du site officiel de l'Opera
que Sylvie Guillem est blessée et ne pourra pas danser comme prévu les 15 et 17 mars. Le 15, Hilaire et elle seront remplacés par Gaida et Le Riche, et le 17 par Guerin et Legris.

The official web site of the Paris Opera says that Sylvie Guillem is injured, and so won't be able to dance in "Manon" on Mar 15 and 17. On Mar 15, Hilaire and Guillem will be replaced with Gaida and Le Riche, and on Mar 17, by Guerin and Legris.


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Jim

14-03-01, 01:40 PM (GMT)
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21. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   That is sad news, and I wish Sylvie a very fast recovery. Though I am of course a little disappointed, I will come to Paris with high expectation to see Fanny dancing and will give her all my love and applause. Jim


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Tomoko.A

14-03-01, 06:21 PM (GMT)
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22. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   I'm really sorry to hear this news. I would be very disappointed if I were going to Paris all the way from England to see Sylvie. Jim, you are such a nice man to support Fanny ! I wish you a great time at the Opera. A friend of mine is a devoted Sylvie fan like you. She is arriving in Paris tomorrow from Japan just to see Sylvie. I'm not sure how she will handle this. She is going to London afterwards to see her in Concert, so I hope Sylvie will have recovered by then.


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Jim

14-03-01, 08:39 PM (GMT)
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23. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   >She is arriving in Paris tomorrow from Japan just
>to see Sylvie. I'm not sure how she will handle
>this.

Tomoko, I am afraid that I believe I know how your friend will feel. The very first time I went to see Sylvie (back in 1989) she was new to London but had to withdraw from Nikiya because of a fall in rehearsal. It was last minute, and even the casting (distribution) for the performance had been already printed. I had to put a line through "Sylvie Guillem" and write "Maria Almeida". I think most of the audience felt disappointment and the applause for poor Maria was very muted. Well, I hope the Paris audience will welcome Fanny. I always feel excitement to see a ballerina for the first time (I remember Beryl Grey, Margot Fonteyn, Merle Park as if it were yesterday) so, as they say "every cloud has a silver lining". I can see Sylvie several times a year. But, for the sake of your friend, I do hope Sylvie is recovered for The Concert. And for me too - I have a ticket for March 22!


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Naoko S

14-03-01, 10:19 PM (GMT)
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24. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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Oh dear.... a friend of mine just set off to Paris to see HILAIRE & Sylvie tomorrow night.... it doesn't happen so often that Sylvie pulls off due to an injury, does it? As far as I can remember she's one of the most robust (thus professional) ballerinas...

I too sincerely wish her a speedy recovery - don't want to miss her Giselle in April!


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Tomoko.A

14-03-01, 10:21 PM (GMT)
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25. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   I do hope her injury is not serious. I've got a ticket for 30th myself. Jim,I actually envy you as you will be seeing Le Riche. I know he hasn't got good reviews from the ballet.co. readers in France, but I wanted to see him in Manon. I look forward to your review. BTW, were you at the RB's Manon performance on 8th April last year ? I was sitting next to a mad ! Sylvie fan in the balcony. Was it you ?


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Jim

15-03-01, 01:05 AM (GMT)
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26. "RE: Review from Manon at POB"
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   >BTW, were you at the RB's Manon performance
>on 8th April last year ? I was sitting next
>to a mad ! Sylvie fan in the balcony. Was
>it you ?

Errrrm, Sylvie fan? Yes....
Balcony? Yes, that's where I usually go....
Mad? Hmmmm. I've heard it said....

But no, it wasn't me. I haven't seen Manon since 1998 and that was at the Colliseum.



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