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Ann Williams

03-03-01, 10:14 AM (GMT)
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"A technical question"
 
  

I didn't quite know where to post this question, so please forgive me, Bruce, if it's in the wrong place (plus it isn't strictly a 'technical' question).

How much should I be paying for a replacement inkject cartridge (black) for my printer? I ask because I was utterly shocked yesterday to have to pay £27.99 for a cartridge for my modest
Hewlett Packard printer, which I bought last year for about £80.00. In other words the cartridge (a flimsy plastic container measuring about 2.5 sq.in ) costs more than a third of the printer itself! Given that I will have to buy a cartridge about three times a year, can this possibly be right? I bought it in Dixons, but the price was more or less the same in Rymans and Smiths, so I assume that it is Hewlett Packard themselves who are setting the price.

There may be some simple and obvious reason for the enormous cost of these cartridges, but I just don't know it. Can anyone enlighten me?


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: A technical question Stuart Sweeney 03-03-01 1
  RE: A technical question Bruce Madmin 03-03-01 2
     RE: A technical question Ann Welsh 03-03-01 3
  RE: A technical question Sonia 03-03-01 4
     RE: A technical question eugene merrett 03-03-01 5
  RE: A technical question Caz 04-03-01 6
  RE: A technical question Robert 05-03-01 7
     RE: A technical question Ann Williams 05-03-01 8
         RE: A technical question Bruce Madmin 05-03-01 9
  RE: A technical question alison 07-03-01 10

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Stuart Sweeney

03-03-01, 10:42 AM (GMT)
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   Ann, I don't know why they are so expensive. However, it's not essential to replace them. For the past 2 years I have been refilling the same Lexmark cartridge with ink. The company I use is called Selectafont on 01189 885643 and for about £12 you can get enough ink for about 10 refills plus instructions geared to your particular model.

I have noticed no deterioration in quality and of course if it does run out at a critical moment you can quickly refill. The Company advises that you should not expect more than 8 refills before the contacts get passed it, but I have done more than that although I am having to refill more frequently and eventually will have to buy another cartridge. Shock, horror!

It's dead easy - my DIY skills are such that I usually get someone in to change lightbulbs. You use a hyperdermic to inject the ink through an airhole at the top with my cartridge and takes about 3 minutes after the first time.

They do ink for colour cartridges, but that looks more more complicated and messy as you have to take the top off the cartridge.

And in case you're wondering, no I don't get commission.


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Bruce Madmin

03-03-01, 10:44 AM (GMT)
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   Afraid its par for the course - cartridges are where companies make lots of money. I often think they make little on the printer and everything out of the running costs. You can find third party replacemenst sometimes or packs that enable you to refil a cartridge yourself. However I never found these very satisfactory - they never performed as well as the proper ones.

When buying a printer its one of the things worth looking at. HP will never be cheap but their enginerring is good and you will readily find new cartridges. Other printers may be cheaper initially, or have cheap cartidges even, but finding them 2 years down the tracks can be problematic. I have a lot of respect for HP.

For what its worth the toner catridges for my Xerox laser printer are over £90 a time...


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Ann Welsh

03-03-01, 12:24 PM (GMT)
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   LAST EDITED ON 03-03-01 AT 12:27 PM (GMT)

LAST EDITED ON 03-03-01 AT 12:26 PM (GMT)

I got a recycled black Inkjet Printer cartridge from my local Office World for my HP printer for, I think, about £10. The company supplying them are called Ink Again. However, I think I read somewhere that HP are taking such recycling companies to court for undercutting their prices as the shop didn't have any last time I called in, only Refill kits which I find a bit messy. There's a rather good inexpensive magazine called 'Computer Active' which comes out fortnightly specially for computer duffs like me. The issue of 22 Feb-7 March has an excellent article on just this subject - worth a read. The mag also has lots of adverts for cheap cartridges, etc. to buy through the net.
PS: the article does warn out the over-use of refill kits - Stuart, be warned


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Sonia

03-03-01, 01:05 PM (GMT)
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   if you email me I can tell you were to buy, cant say the name on ballet pages as it would be advertising and I would get a slap on the hand.


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eugene merrett

03-03-01, 07:16 PM (GMT)
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   I had a hunch that the printer cost are subsidised in order to induce people to buy cartridge. My new HP 930C cost less the £140 yet its print quality and speed are superb. A few years ago it would cost several hundred pounds for the same performance. Given that printers are primarily mechanical devices why should there be any fall in price?

However I think I will go to Ink refills instead of buying new cartridges. This is also going to be the policy for my company which have many HP printers. Official reason - to protect the enviroment REAL reason - save a few pounds!


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Caz

04-03-01, 03:11 AM (GMT)
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   Try buying them online from Insight UK


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Robert

05-03-01, 11:45 AM (GMT)
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   Ann
I know this is not about ballet but you can buy compatable ink cartridges reasonably cheaply. Staples sell them as do other shops. I buy mine by phone 0800 0267023 they will always give you a price and post to you.


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Ann Williams

05-03-01, 08:48 PM (GMT)
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   Thank you everyone for these responses. I know it's possible to buy cheaper alternatives, but when I spoke to the marketing person at HP on Friday she warned me against using them as they could possibly 'damage' the printers! I suppose she has to say this sort of thing. I bought 'Computer Active' as recommnended by Ann and the relevant article is extremely helpful and clear. Interestingly, it says exactly what Bruce says - that in the light of falling printer prices the manufacturers have to make a profit somehow and do it by artificially hiking the component prices. Now that's what I call cynical marketing. Where will it all end? Video machine prices are tumbling - does this mean we will soon have to pay a fortune for tapes?

I've strayed far from the topic of ballet - my apologies for bending your ears like this, but I may have something further to say on the subject later, if Bruce permits.


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Bruce Madmin

05-03-01, 11:12 PM (GMT)
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   >I've strayed far from the topic
>of ballet - my apologies
>for bending your ears like
>this, but I may have
>something further to say on
>the subject later, if Bruce
>permits.

Its fine with me - I guess I was confortable with this because it involves computers/Internet and that, after all, is the only way to get to us.


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alison

07-03-01, 12:51 PM (GMT)
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   Don't forget that the first time (or two) the toner starts to go, you can shake the cartridge a bit from side to side and that'll usually give you an extra few days/weeks/months depending on how heavily you use the printer!


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