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Cindy

23-02-01, 03:01 PM (GMT)
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"Sarah Wildor"
 
   jANE did you see the smae ballet as I, Sarah was fine, ,maybe a little miscast, but danced the lise pretty well, who else found her bland!!!!!! opinion 13.02.01


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Sarah Wildor Annabel 23-02-01 1
  RE: Sarah Wildor Paul A 23-02-01 2
     RE: Sarah Wildor Michael 23-02-01 3
     RE: Sarah Wildor (is fine!) Bruce Madmin 23-02-01 4
         RE: Sarah Wildor (is fine!) Ann Williams 23-02-01 5
             RE: Sarah Wildor (is fine!) Anneliese 24-02-01 13
                 RE: Sarah Wildor (is fine!) Shirley 24-02-01 15
                 RE: Sarah Wildor (is fine!) gbhorsman 28-02-01 20
                 RE: Sarah Wildor (is fine!) gbhorsman 28-02-01 21
                     RE: Sarah Wildor (is fine!) Kate R 28-02-01 22
     RE: Sarah Wildor meru 23-02-01 6
         RE: Sarah Wildor jANE 23-02-01 7
             RE: Sarah Wildor eugene merrett 24-02-01 8
                 RE: Sarah Wildor Annabel 24-02-01 9
                     RE: Sarah Wildor Jane S 24-02-01 10
                         RE: Sarah Wildor Claire S 24-02-01 11
                             RE: Sarah Wildor Bruce Madmin 24-02-01 12
                             RE: Sarah Wildor Jason 24-02-01 14
                             RE: Sarah Wildor Franck 24-02-01 16
                             RE: Sarah Wildor Barbara 26-02-01 17
                             RE: Sarah Wildor Martin Cooper 27-02-01 18
                             RE: Sarah Wildor Jim 27-02-01 19

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Annabel

23-02-01, 04:57 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Sarah Wildor"
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   Bland? how can Ms Wildor be bland? Maybe my opinion is a bit biased as I love anything she dances in! A great fan i'am...and her beauty just adds to her beautiful dancing.


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Paul A

23-02-01, 05:08 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: Sarah Wildor"
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   No this was a really flat performance - Fille can be unfunny. An audience of corporate stuffed shirts did not help but the only funny bits were the mishaps ie cock-up with the ribbons in act one, Stieffel couldn't get them unknotted after the cat's cradle so had a short lumpen strand to stream to Lise, bits falling off the maypole. Also bad stage management - wrong drop cloth flown in at the end of the first scene, Lise getting the wrong side of the back cloth as she changed sides for her variation in the picnic pas de deux.

More importantly Wildor was pallid. Stieffel ok but dodgy in the lifts (the bum lift only just go there) and didn't make sense of the Bolshoi flourishes in the solos (it looked as though he had lost balance rather than deliberate when he uses the floor). William Tuckett did a goodish clog dance but otherwise did not register - too flat, missing some visual gags, out of time with the music when chiding Lise - too contained. Alain (can't remember who was tedious. excellent cockerel (Justin Meissner) and hens, friends sloppy with their ribbons.

In a word BORING - did not linger for act two.


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Michael

23-02-01, 08:15 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: Sarah Wildor"
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   I found Sarah Wildor the most flat Lise ever, so miscast, she should stick with, Ondine and The Dream, why so much fuss is made of her is beyond reason, does the Royal only like the tiny fussy dancers, or the big flashy dancers, such as Zanowsky.
Stiefel tried, but failed to convince, many of our own R.B boys would have made a better Colas, and we have girls I am sure who could wip up an interesting Lise, come on Anthony, letes get it together before your finale.


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Bruce Madmin

23-02-01, 09:39 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: Sarah Wildor (is fine!)"
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   Oh dear, oh dear!

I know for myself that if a performance does not gel at all then it just seems to spiral down and I'm better leaving as well. And nothing will subsequently ever convince me it was anything other than horrid... but there are always other views of course..

I quite enjoyed the night I have to say. Yes there were technical hitches but its a ballet that can ride through things like that and I found the ribbon problems more amusing than not. Bedsides Stiefel I think it was Nunez who had the problems - a last minute stand-in. Regrettable but these things happen.

I enjoyed Sarah's performance which I found touching and mischievous. I'm a simple soul at times (well most of the time) and she made Lise come alive for me. Stiefel is a lovely mover but the lack of stage personality means he does little for me in dramatic pieces, but I know others who feel very differently. I thought the Cockerel and hens quite the best I've seen in a long time and I just loved Tuckett's Simone. Perhaps its because I saw both acts but I don't understand the reference to Tuckett being too flat and missing gags - I saw lots of great things here but he is developing his own Simone with his own mannerisms. I actually think he will become as good a Simone as David Bintley who is the best I've seen to date (but I'm a late developer of course!)

All in all I came away happy enough and would certainly see Wildor and Tuckett again in it.... not boring for me anyway!


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Ann Williams

23-02-01, 11:00 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: Sarah Wildor (is fine!)"
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   Absolutely agree with you Bruce - I thought Wildor was lovely. Thank goodness were're both simple and unsophisticated enough to enjoy performances like hers without being spoiled with too much technical knowledge!

I'm glad you remember Bintley's Simone, because so do I, and I'm now going to bang on a bit about it. I saw an utterly magical performance in about 1993 (?)with Bintley as the widow and Karen Paisey as Lise. Their door-key mime was hilarious. Bintley 'fell asleep' managing to suggest ear-splitting snores with rythmic shudderings of his shoulders. Paisey stealthily tried to remove the key from his apron pocket and when the widow awoke suddenly she made a lengthy and elaborate pretence of trying to catch a fly, following its imaginary movements up and down with her eyes. Finally she 'captures' it and carefully grinds it into the floor, but the widow is still suspicious and keeps trying to bend down to inspect the mangled corpse. Lise tries to pull her away, but she keeps bobbing back to peer down at the floor. This was not only very funny, but there was actually an element of suspense about it too.

When do you see it done like that these days? It seems to me that the mime in 'Fille', which is such a vital element, is getting fainter and fainter, like an old and fading photograph.

What a pity.


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Anneliese

24-02-01, 04:34 PM (GMT)
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13. "RE: Sarah Wildor (is fine!)"
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> I saw an utterly
>magical performance in about 1993
>(?)with Bintley as the widow
>and Karen Paisey as Lise.
>Their door-key mime was hilarious.
> Bintley 'fell asleep' managing
>to suggest ear-splitting snores with
>rythmic shudderings of his shoulders.
>Paisey stealthily tried to remove
>the key from his apron
>pocket and when the widow
>awoke suddenly she made a
>lengthy and elaborate pretence of
>trying to catch a fly,
>following its imaginary movements up
>and down with her eyes.
> Finally she 'captures' it
>and carefully grinds it into
>the floor, but the widow
>is still suspicious and keeps
>trying to bend down to
>inspect the mangled corpse.
>Lise tries to pull her
>away, but she keeps bobbing
>back to peer down at
>the floor. This was
>not only very funny, but
>there was actually an element
>of suspense about it too.
>
Isn't this absolutely standard? I'm sure I saw this 2 years ago and on the 1980s video too!

I'm interested by the complete diversity of opinion here, though. I have to admit I haven't seen Wildor dance much, but when I did I thought she was musical and expressive but technically pretty shaky (literally - wobbly!) so I can't really imagine her doing work as flashy as is required for Lise's solos, and I can't really imagine her in comedy either. There is really no excuse for not getting that cat's cradle right, though, and shame on the dancers for not ensuring that it was absolutely foolproof!

So, you regulars, was Wildor just having an off night?


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Shirley

24-02-01, 09:52 PM (GMT)
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15. "RE: Sarah Wildor (is fine!)"
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   There is
>really no excuse for not
>getting that cat's cradle right,
>though, and shame on the
>dancers for not ensuring that
>it was absolutely foolproof!

It's called live theatre and things do go wrong! I've seen the cats cradle mucked up so before and I'm sure it will go wrong again! Every performance is different and that is why we keep going back otherwise we may as well get our favourite ballet video out and watch it again and again and again!


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gbhorsman

28-02-01, 00:15 AM (GMT)
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20. "RE: Sarah Wildor (is fine!)"
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   Having performed Fille many times in Australia and seeing quite a few performances around the world, I must comment on the stress that is put on the dancers to make all the bits with the ribbons work. I can tell you that however many times you rehearse these bits, your heart is always in your mouth for the cats cradle because it is very tricky and only takes a bit of rosin or sweat on the ribbon for it to all go horribly wrong. There is always a sigh of relief from the corps at the end of the may pole dance when it all comes out right at the end too. Maybe you should try some of these moves with a friend and see just how difficult it can be. Also you not only have to worry about ribbons, but steps, acting and performing in this fun but very difficult ballet.


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gbhorsman

28-02-01, 00:21 AM (GMT)
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21. "RE: Sarah Wildor (is fine!)"
In response to message #13
 
   >There is
>really no excuse for not
>getting that cat's cradle right,
>though, and shame on the
>dancers for not ensuring that
>it was absolutely foolproof!

Having performed Fille many times in Australia and seeing quite a few performances around the world, I must comment on the stress that is put on the dancers to make all the bits with the ribbons work. I can tell you that how ever many times you rehearse these bits, your heart is always in your mouth for the "cat's cradle" because it is very tricky and only takes a bit of rosin or sweat on the ribbon for it to all go horribly wrong. There is always a sigh of relief from the corps at the end of the may pole dance when it all comes out right at the end too. Maybe you should try some of these moves with a friend and see just how difficult it can be. Also you not only have to worry about ribbons, but steps, acting and performing in this fun but very difficult ballet.


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Kate R

28-02-01, 08:08 AM (GMT)
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22. "RE: Sarah Wildor (is fine!)"
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   Thank you Greg for going straight to the point. If people only judge Fille on whether the cats cradle works, they are very sad and misguided.


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meru

23-02-01, 11:31 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: Sarah Wildor"
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   Have you tried BRB? I am currently working with them,and the atmosphere and the energy of the company just made the performances fabulous!I really think they have a lot going for them after the re-opening of Hippodorome.


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jANE

23-02-01, 11:55 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: Sarah Wildor"
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   Sorry but I find Wildor the wrong choice for Lise, so precious, her mime is none existent,, Lise is a wilful girl,a strong character, were as Wildor is a silly simpering,waving of the hands, weak Lise, Stiefel,great dancer but not a Colas, I have been disapointed by the two performances I have seen, Yoshida and Mukhamadovbeat them hands down.


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eugene merrett

24-02-01, 06:09 AM (GMT)
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8. "RE: Sarah Wildor"
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   Shock!!!Horror!!! Sarah Wildor gets a less then flattering review!! Judging from some of the comments made earlier about her one would think she the prima ballerina of the company (move over Sylvie!).

I am sure that Wildor did a very good job in the acting department. But La Fille is so demanding technically that it needs someone with a very fine technique.

Ms Wildor does a great job with some of the Macmillan works - especially Juliet which is not so demanding but I have seen her struggle in more difficult roles.


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Annabel

24-02-01, 09:45 AM (GMT)
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9. "RE: Sarah Wildor"
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   Well the Dance critics liked Sarah Wildor's Lise well enough..and lets just say that i'll agree w/ thier point of view


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Jane S

24-02-01, 01:33 PM (GMT)
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10. "RE: Sarah Wildor"
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   Interesting how we all seem to want different qualities in a Lise. I wouldn't say Wildor's performance on Wednesday was the best I've seen from her, but I still enjoyed it a lot and I certainly don't find her miscast. The performance I saw her do with Sansom at the RFH two years ago was one of the best Lises I've seen.

Incidentally the frontcloths at the end of the first scene may be different but they weren't a mistake - they've being doing it like that for all of this run (on the nights I've been there, anyway).


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Claire S

24-02-01, 04:12 PM (GMT)
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11. "RE: Sarah Wildor"
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   This just shows how subjective it all is. I love Sarah Wildor - I've seen her Lise twice - with Sansom and Stiefel - and thought she was perfect. I would have liked to see her Juliet but I don't like Zelensky or Cope much (!). We all have ourfavourite dancers and one person's ideal is another's antithesis. Personally, I find Bussell bland and dull (though I like her in Monotones) and always find myself booking for the Wildor/Benjamin/Hatley/Yoshida/Cojocaru performances now Durante has gone, though I have accidentally booked a Guillem Giselle (I wanted the matinee and the box office gave me the evening!)and I'm really looking forward to it - a WHOLE DAY of Giselle!

Claire


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Bruce Madmin

24-02-01, 04:33 PM (GMT)
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12. "RE: Sarah Wildor"
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   >Personally, I find
>Bussell bland and dull (though
>I like her in Monotones)
>and always find myself booking
>for the Wildor/Benjamin/Hatley/Yoshida/Cojocaru performances now
>Durante has gone,

Rojo is missing - if you have seen her fine, if not you need to 'cos I think you will like her, possibly a lot.


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Jason

24-02-01, 08:04 PM (GMT)
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14. "RE: Sarah Wildor"
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   Personally I wonder how Sarah Wildor became a principle,she has such a limited style,canot manage the big classics,such as Swan Lake and The Beauty, and proved herself in not managing Lise in The Fille, with so many exellent first soloists, why Sarah Wildor for the promotion, completly the wrong choice, not strong enough in character or stamina, she struggled with her Sugar Plum in Nutcracker during the Christmas season, thankfully she had Johnathan Cope to support her.
I hope the next female to be promoted will have all it takes to be a star of The Royal Ballet.


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Franck

24-02-01, 10:10 PM (GMT)
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16. "RE: Sarah Wildor"
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   I completely agree with Jason. Wildor is a good first soloist but not a principal


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Barbara

26-02-01, 01:15 PM (GMT)
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17. "RE: Sarah Wildor"
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   This wide variety of opinion is absolutely fascinating, particularly as I thought Wednesday was a wonderful evening and felt that the audience was well and truly 'into it'. Can't wait to see Ethan Stiefel again - and I thought Sarah was really adorable as Lise (the first time I had seen her dance this role). I have really enjoyed my 'Fille' trips to the ROH (2 x Irek/Miyako and this one).


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Martin Cooper

27-02-01, 03:26 PM (GMT)
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18. "RE: Sarah Wildor"
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   I agree that Sarah Wildor is perhaps not ideally cast as Lise. Her jump is not strong which reduced the impact of her variation in the Essler 'Pas de Deux'. However she has a feeling for Ashton's choreography and a dramatic conviction that gets right to the heart of the character. Maybe her performance didn't project through all the House but from the stalls I found her performance both moving and funny and what more can one ask.

I am a little suprised by some of the previous comments on this thread. Sarah's performances as Ondine and Chloe were outstanding and to me she is perhaps the finest exponent of the 'English style' of dancing currently with the RB, with its emphasis on grace, musicality and naturalistic acting. If there is no place for a dancer of Sarah's type as a principal with the RB then I fear for our ability to do justice to our dance heritage.


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Jim

27-02-01, 04:22 PM (GMT)
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19. "RE: Sarah Wildor"
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   >to me she is perhaps the finest exponent of the 'English style'
>of dancing currently with the RB

I cannot disagree with that. I saw her as "The betrayed girl" in the Rake's Progress (De Valois gala) and I thought she was delightful.


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