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Eugene Merrett

28-01-01, 01:35 PM (GMT)
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"Paquita - really rather good."
 
   I was in Paris yesterday for Paquita. It is very different then one would expect. The heroine Pauita is a noblewoman raised as a gypsy who falls for a French upper class officer. After saving him from assasination she taken to the officer family. She recognizes a family portrait as to be the same as person in her locket _ the only clue she had to her true identity. The weding scene is now all that is performed until this POB restoration.

It is no masterpiece - nor does it have the "must see" choreography like La Bayerdere. But there is a lot a terrific dancing. Even the grand wedding is far more magnificent then the standard Paquita we have seen before. But the best bit was a scene in gypsy's home where the murder of the French officer is to take place. He is enticed their unwittingly by Paquita. The scene is almost pure comedy and it drew many laughs. It also gives Paquita some personality as a clever, brave and resourceful girl (as well as being very sweet!). This is one area it has the advantage over say Raymonda!

In fact only Kirov S. Beauty and NYCB Swan Lake have more dancing then this ballet! It is great fun and I certainly enjoyed it.

A fuller review will follow later.

People might want to consider watching the matinee performance of it next month. The Eurostar will get there in time and there is time for dinner before the last train returns to London. It is only £50!


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Paquita - really rather good. Catherine 28-01-01 1
     RE: Paquita - really rather good. Jim 28-01-01 2
         RE: Paquita - really rather good. Eugene Merrett 28-01-01 3
             RE: Paquita - really rather good. Jim 28-01-01 4
                 RE: Paquita - really rather good. Nikki 28-01-01 5
                     RE: Paquita - really rather good. Jim 28-01-01 6
                         RE: Paquita - really rather good. Liz P 29-01-01 7
                             Travel to Paris Jim 29-01-01 8
                             RE: Travel to Paris Viviane 30-01-01 9
                             RE: Travel to Paris Jim 30-01-01 10
                             RE: Travel to Paris Viviane 30-01-01 11
                             RE: Travel to Paris Jim 30-01-01 12
                             RE: Travel to Paris Ann Williams 30-01-01 13
                             RE: Travel to Paris Eugene Merrett 30-01-01 14
                             RE: Travel to Paris Guido 30-01-01 15
                             RE: Travel to Paris Viviane 30-01-01 16
                             RE: Travel to Paris Jim 30-01-01 17
                             RE: Travel to Paris Jeannie 30-01-01 18
                             RE: Travel to Paris Jim 30-01-01 19
                             RE: Travel to Paris Jeannie 30-01-01 20
                             RE: Travel to Paris Kevin Ng 31-01-01 21
                             RE: Travel to Paris Estelle 31-01-01 22
                             RE: Travel to Paris Susy 31-01-01 23
                             RE: Travel to Paris Kevin Ng 31-01-01 24
                             RE: Travel to Paris Nikki 31-01-01 28
                             RE: Travel to Paris Marie 31-01-01 25
                             RE: Paquita - really rather good. Marie 31-01-01 26
                             RE: Paquita - really rather good. Jeannie 31-01-01 27

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Catherine

28-01-01, 02:24 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Paquita - really rather good."
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   Why don't you add your posting on the POB -Paquita's review I begin to make especially in english for english balletomanes.
I'm glad you love it. But how you find dancers how you speak about anyone ?


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Jim

28-01-01, 03:25 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: Paquita - really rather good."
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   > The Eurostar will get there in time and there is time for
> dinner before the last train returns to London. It is only £50!

Well, Eugene, that maybe the weekend price. For a midweek trip (as I want to do) it costs £300 return, and that's just from London, I have to make it from Leicester! The cheapest flight by scheduled airline is £400 (I got to America for that!) but after some trouble I've got a flight for £210.

How long in advance did you order you ticket, or did you wait for a "return"?


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Eugene Merrett

28-01-01, 04:22 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: Paquita - really rather good."
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   With sole exception of Easy Jet any midweek travel (without a Saturday night stay) is going to be expensive. The ony way you are going to get to Paris cheaply is to get the bus! It takes a whole day (or a sleepless night) but it is cheap and requires no advanced reservation.

Eurostar are offering day trips at £50 but I am sure it requires advance booking. Currently there is nothing in the Paris Opera program I really want to see - But next year I hope to see them more often!

I booked my ticket on the internet in November.


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Jim

28-01-01, 04:43 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: Paquita - really rather good."
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   >The only way you are going to get to Paris cheaply is
>to get the bus! It takes a whole day (or a sleepless night) but
>it is cheap and requires no advanced reservation.

Well I have suffered worse things than that to see my idol (I have twice slept on the ground at St Pancras station with just my coat over me). Presumably the bus goes from Victoria? Anyway we should perhaps take this up by private e-mail rather than bore other readers with our conversation. I'll get back to you.


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Nikki

28-01-01, 04:47 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: Paquita - really rather good."
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   >>The only way you are going to get to Paris cheaply is
>>to get the bus! It takes a whole day (or a sleepless night) but
>>it is cheap and requires no advanced reservation.
>
>Well I have suffered worse things
>than that to see my
>idol (I have twice slept
>on the ground at St
>Pancras station with just my
>coat over me). Presumably
>the bus goes from Victoria?
>Anyway we should perhaps take
>this up by private e-mail
>rather than bore other readers
>with our conversation. I'll get
>back to you.

Your resilence is award winning...im sure Ms Guillem if she ever had the chance would award you 'best fan award'....on another note do you think she knows how you look like since you have been to so many of her preformances?


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Jim

28-01-01, 04:58 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: Paquita - really rather good."
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   >do you think she knows how you look like
>since you have been to so many of her preformances?

I am quite sure that she does. I suppose she thinks to herself "There is that idiot again who insists on speaking in French to me when I can speak better English!".

She came in a RB touring group to Leicester a few years ago and I sent flowers to the stage door before the performance. You can imagine my excitement when I saw them presented to her on stage at the curtain call! And after the performance I was the only one waiting at the stage door, so I had her all to myself for a few moments (except for Monsieur Giles Tapie who I think has the patience of a saint!)


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Liz P

29-01-01, 11:22 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: Paquita - really rather good."
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   I always travel to Paris using air miles, the restrictions are far less in terms of having to stay a Saturday or min 2 nights. The only way to collect them cheaply is by the Sainsbury's reward scheme, each voucher which is worth £2.50 is worth 40 airmiles. You need about 550 plus tax(£30) for a return flight from Birmingham. You can even book single flights for half the miles. Normally you would need to spend £250 to get a voucher but if you buy things with extra miles on or, even better,just give your friends the money for their vouchers you can get to Paris for under £65 !
Anyway my obsession is coming to London this week so the pre-fix anxiety is already starting to kick in!


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Jim

29-01-01, 11:37 PM (GMT)
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8. "Travel to Paris"
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   Thanks for the advice Liz. I'm afraid I don't shop much at Sainsbury's. But today I've discovered a much cheaper way that Eugene suggested. The bus from London to Paris return is only £36! It means you effectively lose 2 night's proper sleep, but you soon forget the fatigue once you've had a good night's sleep!
But this thread is moving away from Paquita!


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Viviane

30-01-01, 08:00 AM (GMT)
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9. "RE: Travel to Paris"
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   >But this thread is moving away
>from Paquita!

Sorry about Paquita Jim but :

If you don't mind driving...
You have to consider Eurotunnel.
For people who don't live in Central London this is a good alternative.
Sure is when you are travelling with friends it's the cheapest way. You can easily book online and have to look out for their
'special offers' (booking 1 week/ or 3 days in advance...etc.and avoid return after 2pm on Sundays)
(very strange : prices are even better when you start in England!)

Last months I have discovered Eurotunnel in a great way (maybe
I was very lucky and had no traffic jams !)
The only negative point : I "learned" this weekend about the speedlimits on British Motorways !


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Jim

30-01-01, 08:13 AM (GMT)
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10. "RE: Travel to Paris"
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   >Sorry about Paquita Jim but :

Errrrrm.... sorry, Viviane, have I missed something? What is there to be sorry about?

>If you don't mind driving...
>You have to consider Eurotunnel.

I would love to drive; my worry is negotiating Paris and parking there



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Viviane

30-01-01, 09:49 AM (GMT)
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11. "RE: Travel to Paris"
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   >Errrrrm.... sorry, Viviane, have I missed
>something? What is there to
>be sorry about?

I just wanted to say that my reply has nothing to do with Paquita. (My God, am I really that bad in your language ?)

>I would love to drive; my
>worry is negotiating Paris and
>parking there

I always left my car at one of the carparks outside the city and take the underground.
Maybe Cathérine or Marie can give some info ?
I have to admit that driving in the centre of Paris is a bit of a war.(and they don't stop at the red lights !)


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Jim

30-01-01, 10:03 AM (GMT)
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12. "RE: Travel to Paris"
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   >(My God, am I really that bad in your language ?)

You're a lot better in mine than I am in yours
I hadn't woken up properly.

>Maybe Cathérine or Marie can give
>some info ?

Well, I was wondering, if it pleases Bruce, that someone might start a thread devoted to travelling arrangements rather than clutter up a thread devoted to Paquita


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Ann Williams

30-01-01, 11:51 AM (GMT)
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13. "RE: Travel to Paris"
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   Jim - travelling by the Metro in Paris is blissfully simple, Just follow the numbered (and coloured) lines. Time between stations never seems to be more than two minutes, the doors always open on the same side throughout the journey, you always know from which direction the train is coming and all trains seem to come at about one minute intervals. Oh, and nearly everyone, station cleaners included, now seems to speak English. The downside of all this is that if we think we've got beggars on the London underground....

But the stumbling block may be finding a suitable car-park, of course.


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Eugene Merrett

30-01-01, 12:21 PM (GMT)
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14. "RE: Travel to Paris"
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   I did take the Eurotunnel once it so delayed I could not make it to Paris in time. I just had to turn around and head back home (after going to the booze shop of course!)


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Guido

30-01-01, 12:56 PM (GMT)
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15. "RE: Travel to Paris"
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   Sorry for the diversion, but as Jim was so intrigued with meeting Guillem at the end of the performances, I would like to say that I will be - probabily - with some friends, in Paris on March 15 to see Manon at Opera Garnier.
Like in other equal circumstances, we usually meet Guillem at the end. When she came to Ravenna last July we attended - unseen by the staff - the reharsal of the ballet. During it we talked very friendly with mr. Tapie (about one hour), then with Hilaire and Guillem herself. We were shocked by her human coté (incredible for us). We all understood that - even if she is one of the greatest danseuse of the moment - she NEEDS contacts with her public. She does not dances only for herself or for the Theater administration, but for us.
And when we met her in Paris three days after, we were afraid she could have thought: 'Oh nooo, again!. Instead she recognized us and it was like to meet an old friend.
We do have difficulties in thinking at her as a normal person. But she is.
Jim will you be with us to salute her at the end of the performance?


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Viviane

30-01-01, 01:19 PM (GMT)
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16. "RE: Travel to Paris"
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   > We were shocked by her human
>coté (incredible for us). We
>all understood that - even
>if she is one of
>the greatest danseuse of the
>moment - she NEEDS contacts
>with her public. She does
>not dances only for herself
>or for the Theater administration,
>but for us.

I just love to read this !!!

I think this makes the difference between just a star and a 'really great one'!
The most superb dancers aren't so 'supernatural'.
It's only the public who 'invent'them like this.
I keep saying : they need our applause and support no matter how 'big star' they are !
You can find the greatest simplicity and modesty among them.
And this can be so heartwarming !



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Jim

30-01-01, 03:11 PM (GMT)
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17. "RE: Travel to Paris"
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   Ann:

> Jim - travelling by the Metro in Paris is blissfully simple

Oh well, here goes: Rue Charles de Gaule 0600h > Eiffel Tour > Natural History Museum > Wine shop (for Byrhh) > Déjeuner (for croque-madame) > Panthéon > Notre Dame > Pyramid > Paquita > Moulin Rouge > Rue Charles de Gaule 0900 > Ferry. And I need to fit in a shower and a shave somewhere. That's next Tuesday by the way! Any advice from anyone?

Guido!

> Jim will you be with us to salute her at the end of the
> performance

You bet your life I will - I've got nothing else to do all night


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Jeannie

30-01-01, 06:36 PM (GMT)
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18. "RE: Travel to Paris"
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   Jim - I can vouch for Guido & his friends. I just returned to Washington, DC after a long weekend on Paris for Paquitas & had the great pleasure of spending some quality time with these wonderful people. If I had time & money unlimited, I'd be on the first plane to Paris to see MANON in March!

As for PAQUITA, it is a spectacular ballet; simply spectacular. Very "de luxe" look and feel; a surprisingly melodious score (arranged & conducted by David Coleman); and an etoile-in-the-making performance by premiere danseuse Marie-Agnes Gillot. Dazzling terre-a-terre, taquetee-style choreography by Lacotte...LOTS of it! The title role is incredibly demanding - my hat's off to Marie-Agnes Gillot for performing it with brilliance on two consecutive nights. Although her two partners (the role of Lucien) --Jean-Guillaume Bart and Jose Martinez--were both elegant and capable, I was especially bowled over by Emanual Thibault's solo is the 'Golden Pas de Trois." Good grief - where has this dancer been all this time & why doesn't he receive more publicity??? I am still gathering my thoughts and hope to post a review on Ballet Alert! in the next day or two.

One more tidbit. I also had the pleasure of attending the all-day demonstrations of the Ecole de la Danse on Sunday, which took my breath away....especially one dazzling 16-year-old student with the looks and style of Margot Fonteyn. She's in Francesca Zumbo's class. I'm still trying to discover the name of this talented and bright-eyed student, as individual names were not announced during the program (of course). The future of the Paris Opera Ballet looks glorious indeed!


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Jim

30-01-01, 07:06 PM (GMT)
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19. "RE: Travel to Paris"
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   Jeannie - thanks for that - I can hardly wait to see Paquita!

Guido:
> even if she is one of the greatest danseuse of the moment - she
> NEEDS contacts with her public.

Thank you so much for saying that. I think that there are one or two people who post here who think I might be a bit biased towards Sylvie and that I am blind to her faults (even though she doesn't have any). I would replace your word NEEDS with LOVES. That was one of the first things I noticed when I first saw her dancing and that is one of her features which I find most captivating. She is one of those stars who's greatness is so great that they don't have to flaunt it. It reminds me a lot of Merle Park and Beryl Grey who both totally hooked me on ballet when I was a teenager (Nikki, if you read this, there's no immunity - the disease lasts a lifetime) because they gave you the conviction they were dancing for YOU!


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Jeannie

30-01-01, 07:26 PM (GMT)
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20. "RE: Travel to Paris"
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   I'm posting this note separately; my intention was to edit the post above, but I seem to have forgotten my password (Did I ever have one?).

In 'vouching' for Guido, I should have also mentioned that it was a pleasure seeing several of our 'members' from France and Britain...and even a surprise visitor from New York who posts here every now & then. (I'll respect her privacy!) Although nothing was formally planned in advance, it ended up being quite an international balletomane's conference in Paris this weekend, in which new friendships were forged and old ones rekindled. Thank you for the memories, guys!


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Kevin Ng

31-01-01, 08:22 AM (GMT)
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21. "RE: Travel to Paris"
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   Glad to hear you had such a great time in Paris, Jeannie. I am sure that there will be more such international gathering of ballet.co members in future. How about another one during the Kirov London season this summer?

I've also greatly enjoyed meeting our Parisian friends in early Jan. during the POB season of Jewels and the Guillem Giselle at Chatelet. I wish I had taken some photos as a souvenir!


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Estelle

31-01-01, 10:34 AM (GMT)
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22. "RE: Travel to Paris"
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   Guido and Susy, it was a pleasure to meet you at the intermission on Jan 27. I regret not having had the opportunity to meet other balletomanes from this site.

Jeannie: I'm glad you enjoyed "Paquita" (and it was nice to see that the audience was enthusiastic about it).
About Emmanuel Thibault: actually, he became a "sujet" quite early, when he was around 18 (he's about 25 now), and often is cast in roles such as the Peasant pas de deux in "Giselle", but as far as I know, he has never been cast in principal roles, unlike other sujets like Saiz or Belingard. Perhaps it's just another example of a bright sujet being underestimated by the direction... But also, from what has been posted on this site in the POB threads, it seems that he has often been criticized for
not having good partnering skills, and perhaps the direction considers that it is necessary to be a good partner to become a "premier danseur" (I haven't seen him enough myself to judge- but certainly he was bright in that "Paquita" pas de trois!)


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Susy

31-01-01, 11:41 AM (GMT)
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23. "RE: Travel to Paris"
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   Thanks to Guido, Jeannie and Estelle for your words.
I didn't post since my holiday in Paris because the reality was far beyond my brightest dreams (two wonderful performances of Paquita, the rendez-vous with ballet.co friends and last but not least Roberto Bolle dining with David Coleman at the same restaurant we chose on Sat. eve) and I'm still cuddling the joyful emotions I felt.


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Kevin Ng

31-01-01, 04:29 PM (GMT)
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24. "RE: Travel to Paris"
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   Susy, well done for having chosen the right restaurant! Could it be the Cafe de la Paix, opposite the Opera Garnier?


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Nikki

31-01-01, 08:32 PM (GMT)
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28. "RE: Travel to Paris"
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   >Jeannie - thanks for that -
>I can hardly wait to
>see Paquita!
>
>Guido:
>> even if she is one of the greatest danseuse of the moment - she
>> NEEDS contacts with her public.
>
>Thank you so much for saying
>that. I think that there
>are one or two people
>who post here who think
>I might be a bit
>biased towards Sylvie and that
>I am blind to her
>faults (even though she doesn't
>have any). I would replace
>your word NEEDS with LOVES.
>That was one of the
>first things I noticed when
>I first saw her dancing
>and that is one of

>It reminds me a lot
>of Merle Park and Beryl
>Grey who both totally hooked
>me on ballet when I
>was a teenager (Nikki, if
>you read this, there's no
>immunity - the disease lasts
>a lifetime)
NOO!.....I really have to get a good paying job to upkeep this obession..!

'because they gave
>you the conviction they were
>dancing for YOU!'

Beautifully said Jim....could'nt have put that feeling in better words



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Marie

31-01-01, 04:35 PM (GMT)
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25. "RE: Travel to Paris"
In response to message #18
 
   >One more tidbit. I also had
>the pleasure of attending the
>all-day demonstrations of the Ecole
>de la Danse on Sunday,
>which took my breath away....especially
>one dazzling 16-year-old student with
>the looks and style of
>Margot Fonteyn. She's in Francesca
>Zumbo's class. I'm still trying
>to discover the name of
>this talented and bright-eyed student,
>as individual names were not
>announced during the program (of
>course). The future of the
>Paris Opera Ballet looks glorious
>indeed!

Was she a black-haired girl in the front left row?



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Marie

31-01-01, 05:20 PM (GMT)
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26. "RE: Paquita - really rather good."
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   Liz P , I think it might interest you:

http://www.nicolasleriche.com


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Jeannie

31-01-01, 06:29 PM (GMT)
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27. "RE: Paquita - really rather good."
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   Marie - Oui. C'est elle!

Kevin - No. It was the Bistro Roman on the Blvd. des Italienes...most appropriate venue, eh?


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