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Nikki

26-12-00, 02:15 PM (GMT)
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"The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male stars"
 
   It’s a shame that this partnership happens about twice a year, when it is so noticeably apparent that these two dancers love working together. I don’t know where I got this quote, but it was after reading an article, and the reviewer stated that he had never seen Zelensky so ‘alive’ with another partner, ‘Bussel is his muse, and he the poet.’ Yes you can accuse me of being sucked into the media storm that is ‘Media Darling Darcey Bussel’ but to me she is a magical ballerina, her presence just captivates me, and combine that with one of the most elegant and aesthetically pleasing male dancers just makes it a wonderful cocktail (not to mention that fact that Zelensky can dance exceptionally well, the best male dancer today if I can state that!). Another writer quotes a ballerina in the Kirov who uttered that Zelensky ‘was in love with that ballerina (Bussel) and calls her the most beautiful ballerina in the world.’ He came over to the Royal Ballet to be able to dance with her, and in an interview w/ him conducted by ballet.co that was in 1998, he said that he wanted to join RB but then they closed the Royal Opera House! What unfortunate timing, now we only have the pleasure of seeing them dancing a few times a year! But now the Royal Opera House is open and the RB has tremendous facilities, so too Zelensky you can come and join permanently now!
I look for the time when star partnerships (going back to Fonteyn and Nuryver –typo sorry) were formed. The ballet needs these stars and the chemistry they produce. It’s a shame that there is so much diplomacy now, with everyone having to dance with everyone. The RB lacks male quality dancers; call me an asethic fascist, but part of the beauty of watching ballet is the form and beauty of the dancers combined with their presence and technical abilities. I’m not a massive fan of beefcake ballet dancers, I prefer streamline tall males and unfortunately RB lacks these, though the guest principal males are wonderful, and I hope that some of these guests become permanent fixtures. However the female line up at the RB is fantastic, they have wonderful principals, Bussel, Guillem, Wildor, Rojo, Benjamin etc etc. I just hope that the RB can get a male line up that can stand up their tremendously talented female line up, and if they can do this then and obtain a choreographer that can continue and build from the MacMillan and Ashton Legacy then the RB can go on to become the best classical company in the world, or is that just my wishful thinking ?


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  RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male ... Monica K 26-12-00 1
     RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male ... Nikki 26-12-00 2
         RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male ... Shirley 26-12-00 3
             RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male ... Nikki 27-12-00 4
                 RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male ... Bruce Madmin 27-12-00 6
                     RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male ... Nikki 27-12-00 9
                 RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male ... Shirley 27-12-00 7
                     RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male ... Nikki 27-12-00 8
                         RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male ... Shirley 27-12-00 11
                             RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male ... Shirley 27-12-00 12
         RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male ... Ann Welsh 27-12-00 5
             RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male ... Nikki 27-12-00 10
                 RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male ... eugene merrett 27-12-00 13
                     RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male ... Michael 28-12-00 14
                         RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male ... Bruce Madmin 28-12-00 15
                         RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male ... Nikki 28-12-00 16

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Monica K

26-12-00, 06:57 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male stars"
In response to message #0
 
   I completly agree w/ you, Zelensky and Bussel make a wonderful couple, it would be great of Zelensky did join permantly but thank your lucky stars that he's dancing w/ the RB in the first place. Another great and real partnership is Cooper and Wildor, I hope Ross Stretton(the new Director after Dowell) will invite Cooper as a guest or hopefully as permenant principal, cos from the looks of things his only main achievement since leaving RB is swan lake, I have'nt heard good things about his collaboration w/ the Scottish Ballet, and anyway his role in Billy Elliot was for 3 seconds, it was'nt even a role!!!

>'and if they can do this then and obtain a choreographer that >can continue and build from the MacMillan and Ashton Legacy'
The RB are nurthuring new talent, with the development of other studios, dancers and choreographers can experiment instead of risking all on the main stage. Im sure its going to be a wonderful lab for new dance, but only time will tell.


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Nikki

26-12-00, 07:07 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male stars"
In response to message #1
 
  
>Another great and real partnership
>is Cooper and Wildor, I
>hope Ross Stretton(the new Director
>after Dowell) will invite Cooper
>as a guest or hopefully
>as permenant principal, cos from
>the looks of things his
>only main achievement since leaving
>RB is swan lake, I
>have'nt heard good things about
>his collaboration w/ the Scottish
>Ballet, and anyway his role
>in Billy Elliot was for
>3 seconds, it was'nt even
>a role!!!

You make swan lake seem insignificant, it lead Cooper to be recognised as a major star, cos he was'nt seen as one in the RB. But i do agree, him and Wildor together would be amazing. Wildor is one of my favourite ballerians! I saw her in Ondine and she was just magnificant. Another dancer who Im impressed w/ from the is Christopher Saunders, why is'nt he a principal? him and Benjamin were just perfect togther. I think the RB needs to develop its partnerships. TO be truthful when I watched Ondine w/ Wildor and Cope, there was no spark. Cope looks lovely, his figure is divine but he did'nt live up to Wildor who completly dominated the stage and captured the preformance, she save Ondine, without her it would not have been as enjoyable as it was. Im so happy that Wildor has been promoted to principal!! But RB as I stressed before needs more male stars, not ur typical cardboard prince. WE WANT PRESENCE!!(also looks, stream line figure and tall )


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Shirley

26-12-00, 07:22 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male stars"
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   Yes I agree Bussell and Zelensky are great together but I don't see Igor joining the RB. He is becoming very influential in the Kirov and I doubt he would give that all up to dance at the RB.

I also think that Darcey enjoys dancing with different partners and it is the press and fans who would like permanent partnerships - not the dancers!

Re the comment about Cope in Ondine - perhaps he wasn't wonderful in it but you should have seen hin in Swan Lake or R & J. He can be very dramatic and totally engaged!


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Nikki

27-12-00, 01:26 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male stars"
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   Finally got tickets for the 26th Feb for R & J!!! Zelensky and Bussel will be dancing!!!. Can anyone tell me if B43 or C37 are good seats???? I think they are in the stalls circle. im so glad that i did'nt get the side view box! the views are much better from the stalls. The whole preformance is so booked up that my friend and I are sitting separatly because of the lack of tickets. Cant believe I got some!! I'll write a review on it.I have one complaint, I feel ROH should sell tickets online before they sell them on the fone, and also all the friends of Covent Garden book up about 80% of the tickets on good nites, its unfair on the rest of us.


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Bruce Madmin

27-12-00, 03:46 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male stars"
In response to message #4
 
   >Can anyone tell me
>if B43 or C37 are
>good seats???? I think they
>are in the stalls circle.
>im so glad that i
>did'nt get the side view
>box! the views are much
>better from the stalls.

The seats should be OK but you are not in the stalls as such - just at stalls level (well a little bit above actually). They are a tiny bit to the side but you should not miss much.

Re the general stuff about adoration for Bussell and Zelensky I'm not so sure... about either!

Zelensky is truly great... when he bothers and knows the choreography. Some performances with RB he seems a million miles away and just going through the motions. And that can be awfully depressing to see.

Bussell is a marvelous dancer.. but so are many others... personally there are other RB dancers who are firmer favourites. The reason I chuck a bit of a brick in the pond is because many, non-regulars particularly, perceive Bussell as the very tops - she must be because she is the nations favourite ballerina, based on TV appearances, modeling, Hello etc etc etc. This is all good for ballet, The Royal Ballet and good for Bussell of course. But many regulars place her as a great dancer among other great dancers that the Royal have used over the last few years. I'm not saying she does not have a significant, and knowledgable, following - she clearly does. But so does Guillem, Durante, Wildor, Benjamin and (increasingly) Rojo. Bussell is great... but I know I speak for more than myself in trying to restore a bit of balance. But its a dangerous path to tread where the English rose is concerned!


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Nikki

27-12-00, 06:18 PM (GMT)
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9. "RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male stars"
In response to message #6
 
   Yes I admit to me taken in my by media circus surrounding Darcey,she may not be the most brilliant of the dancers. But she is one of my favourites because of her beauty and elegance and the fact that shes english, just adds to her popularity. Its lovely to see a beautiful tall dancer, and if one compares her to Benjamin (just my view!) she is just better to look at. I know that is not what ballet is meant to be like, but when you combine the fact that she can dance w/ her beauty she just has that winning cocktail.Also her accesability like you said helps adds to her popularity. I personally prefer to see taller female dancers i find it more attractive to watch Blanchline(typo) dancers to Ashtons short and petite ones. I actually agree w/ Derek Deanes comment that he thinks that 'pear shaped' dancers should be encouraged to lose weight. Dancing is a visual art form. Another of my views is that its more enjoyable to look upon a male dancer who is not a beefcase, cos I find it a bit too much to watch, too put it too bluntly to 'many bits that jiggle'. A tall thin male dancer just has a better line. Zelenesky idolizes Bussel and Im sure he must have valid reasons, so I'll just agree w/ him.

Though Wildor is short compared to Bussel her presence is just captivating, and the way she moves her hands! Amazing.


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Shirley

27-12-00, 05:22 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male stars"
In response to message #4
 
   .I have one complaint, I
>feel ROH should sell tickets
>online before they sell them
>on the fone, and also
>all the friends of Covent
>Garden book up about 80%
>of the tickets on good
>nites, its unfair on the
>rest of us.

I'm a friend and I couldn't get any tickets for the above show so you are lucky. Paying for the privalege of being a friend doesn't mean you always get tickets for the shows you want and sometimes it is actually better just to try your luck in the postal booking or online booking which is all processed before phone and personal booking (that is not scheduled to open untill the 3rd of Jan).


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Nikki

27-12-00, 05:49 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male stars"
In response to message #7
 
  
>
it is actually
>better just to try your
>luck in the postal booking
>or online booking which is
>all processed before phone and
>personal booking (that is not
>scheduled to open untill the
>3rd of Jan).


I did'nt get my tickets at all from the the ROH Box office, but a booking office that deal w/ west end shows. I tried firstly to get tickets on-line, but for booking period 3 they are only sell tickets online on Jan the 3rd, the same situation as w/ phone booking. I know this cos it says on the ROH website that one can only buy tickets online for booking period 3 on the third of Jan. They do not process online booking before phone and personal booking, one can only get tickets ahead if u are a friend or do it by postal booking


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Shirley

27-12-00, 07:25 PM (GMT)
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11. "RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male stars"
In response to message #8
 
   >
>I did'nt get my tickets at
>all from the the ROH
>Box office, but a booking
>office that deal w/ west
>end shows. I tried firstly
>to get tickets on-line, but
>for booking period 3 they
>are only sell tickets online
>on Jan the 3rd, the
>same situation as w/ phone
>booking. I know this cos
>it says on the ROH
>website that one can only
>buy tickets online for booking
>period 3 on the third
>of Jan. They do not
>process online booking before phone
>and personal booking, one can
>only get tickets ahead if
>u are a friend or
>do it by postal booking

From a booking leaflet for period 3!

" Book by post or fax (020 7212 9460) for productions available for booking in period 3. Tickets can be requested online via the Royal Opera House website www.royaloperahouse.org. Booking forms will be processed in random order from 28th November. A minimum of 20% of tickets for each performance is kept back for sale by post or fax."

It also said that all forms must be received by the 27th of Nov to be included in the public booking!

Not sure if they have now changed the procedures but assume because it is past the postal date that online booking is now only available after the 3rd of Jan.


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Shirley

27-12-00, 10:59 PM (GMT)
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12. "RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male stars"
In response to message #11
 
   Forgot to say that I'm pretty sure online booking was available earlier as I remember checking out the availabilty of tickets for Romeo and Juliet, which I think was at the beg of Dec, which gave me the option of booking! I often use the online booking just to see what is selling and what isn't but I have no idea how up to date it is!



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Ann Welsh

27-12-00, 03:10 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male stars"
In response to message #2
 
   I was lucky enough to see Cooper partnering Wildor in Ondine at Sadlers Wells in the summer of 1999. Due to Cope being unwell that summer, Cooper was roped in several times to stand in for him. (Although scheduled to dance himself, he also stood in for Cope in a gorgeous 'Evening with Darcey Bussell' at the Edinburgh Festival Theatre & Hampton Court that year too; there are reviews on this site). Although Palemon isn't much of a dancing role the magic between him and Sarah was much in evidence. Their partnership in AMP's Cinderella also brought great reviews, although I haven't seen the show yet and doubt whether it would ever be with this partnership. It would be a great pity if Ross Stretton were to ignor this particular chemistry.


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Nikki

27-12-00, 06:22 PM (GMT)
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10. "RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male stars"
In response to message #5
 
   I want to write to Stretton to invite cooper back!! Im sure hes aware of their chemistry, their married, so it cant be more obvious than that. I just pray that we will get the opportunity so see Cooper and Wildor on the stage at Covent Garden in the near future. I'll then send in my postal booking form earlier than usal!


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eugene merrett

27-12-00, 11:34 PM (GMT)
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13. "RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male stars"
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   But surely Adam Cooper is getting on in age! How old is he


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Michael

28-12-00, 04:48 AM (GMT)
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14. "RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male stars"
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   Darcey is a lovely dancer, maturing with g reat distinction,but has a reputation as a difficult partner because she tends to be too bossy and doesn't always trust her partner. Hence the continued problem of finding the right man ! Zelensky indeed looks good with her, but can be so fatally disengaged, even with Darcey - you really have to see him on the right night. Bruce is absolutely right here

Adam was a 1989 graduate so is about 30, and I too hope he will be tempted back to RB - both Cope and the underrated Urlezaga are overworked. Chris Saunders is the company stalwart par excellence, and is a character principal - pity they have to have the distinction. I would also like to see William Trevitt back in the ranks.

We are lucky to have the sublime Johann Kobborg, one of the greatest danseurs in the world, and Johann Persson is also a real find. Nigel Burley has also done splendid work, and we have upcoming stars in Watson and Sasaki.


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Bruce Madmin

28-12-00, 06:22 AM (GMT)
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15. "RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male stars"
In response to message #14
 
   >Darcey is a lovely dancer, maturing
>with great distinction,

yes - something I remembered after I posted... these last couple of seasons she has pushed on again. Or she has to me anyway...

>but has
>a reputation as a difficult
>partner because she tends to
>be too bossy and doesn't
>always trust her partner.
>Hence the continued problem of
>finding the right man !
> Zelensky indeed looks good
>with her, but can be
>so fatally disengaged, even with
>Darcey - you really have
>to see him on the
>right night. Bruce is
>absolutely right here
>
>Adam was a 1989 graduate so
>is about 30, and I
>too hope he will be
>tempted back to RB -
>both Cope and the underrated
>Urlezaga are overworked. Chris Saunders
>is the company stalwart par
>excellence, and is a character
>principal - pity they have
>to have the distinction. I
>would also like to see
>William Trevitt back in the
>ranks.

Nunn was also shaping up well. Not a technical wizz but a wonderful partner and interpreter

>
>We are lucky to have the
>sublime Johann Kobborg,

yes, yes, yes (and yes!)

>one of
>the greatest danseurs in the
>world, and Johann Persson

Not so sure yet

> is
>also a real find.
>Nigel Burley has also done
>splendid work, and we have
>upcoming stars in Watson and
>Sasaki.

Yes - and I guess more than a few of us will be there this afternoon to see Sasaki and Tapper (or Trapper Tapper: I think it was Eugene who called her Trapper once - that Canadian backgound I suppose - and now she is always Trapper Tapper to me - sorry!)



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Nikki

28-12-00, 05:49 PM (GMT)
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16. "RE: The Magic of Zelensky and Bussel – and RBs Lack of Male stars"
In response to message #14
 
  
>upcoming stars in Watson and
>Sasaki.

I watched Saski dance in the nutcracker, very disappointed w/ him. I hope that Edaward Watson rates better, I cannot comment as I have not watched him in action yet. I agree w/ you that 'Chris Saunders is the company stalwart par excellence, and is a character principal - pity they have to have the distinction'. Like in the nutcracker he was on for such a few times, hes a wonderful dancer and actor...wonderful prince or anything else material. It is a huge shame that they have that distinction.


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