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eugene merrett

11-12-00, 03:27 PM (GMT)
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"Ferri in R and J at La Scala"
 
   Did anyone see this on ArtsWorld? It was really good - more then justifying the 6 montly fee!! It was the Macmillan verison used (La Scala was very wise to dump the Nureyev montrosity!) but with different designs. These disigns are easy on the eye are quite tasteful if not imaginative. Otherwise it was a very faithfull staging of MacMillan's masterpiece.

Ferri has improved as a dancer, she is stronger, more graceful then she was in her magical 1984 performance on video. She is still the best Juliet around but some of that aching vulnerablity of youth is not there so I will always prefer the older video. The rest of the dancing is first rate including Angel Corella in fine form as Romeo. It is superbly directed and succeeds in bring the street scenes to life on televison. I hope to see it out on DVD soon!

There are also doing Coppelia but I missed it - no casting details were given on the Artsworld Web site.


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala Karen R 11-12-00 1
     RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala eugene merrett 11-12-00 2
         RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala alison 12-12-00 3
         RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala Bruce Madmin 12-12-00 4
             RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala eugene merrett 13-12-00 5
         RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala Carly Gillies 13-12-00 6
             RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala Kate R 13-12-00 7
                 RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala Karen R 13-12-00 8
                     RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala eugene merrett 13-12-00 9
                         RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala Carly Gillies 14-12-00 10
                         RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala Kevin Ng 14-12-00 11

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Karen R

11-12-00, 05:15 PM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala"
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   Yes I watched it yesterday afternoon and loved every minute of it. I was hesitant about the new satellite station at first, you gave me a ticking off if you remember, I am very glad I took the plunge. The future events that we are aware of look good too. I am looking forward to the Rambert pieces on Christmas Eve even though I shall have to record them. Thanks for the nudge.


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eugene merrett

11-12-00, 05:53 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala"
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   You can thank Rupert Murdoch for your culture. Sky television is his venture. It is ironic that everyone accuses him of degrading news by his smutty papers - but he has given us Sky News, rescued the News industry from the most outrageous Union practices and given a superb Satelite TV service with close to 20 news and documentary channels!!

It proves Adam Smith's brilliant statement that society is furthered by the actions of individuals acting in their own self interest - more so then if individuals were acting out of good intentions alone.

I think Murdoch should be knighted or given a peerage!!


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alison

12-12-00, 01:00 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala"
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   On the other hand, presumably he was also responsible, when Sky took over BSB, for getting rid of BSB's excellent weekend Arts coverage, so I'd just say that he was making amends.


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Bruce Madmin

12-12-00, 01:41 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala"
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   Just love it Eugene!

I suppose there are lots of points but I'l just lob in one at the moment. I don't think Sky needs to be thanked too much because Artsworld is not a Sky company. At best they may own a little of it and I'm not even sure of that. The Guardian is one backer I've heard of and I'm sure a trawl through the archives might find who the others are. Its those who own Artsworld who are taking the risk here and should be appluaded. I suspect if it fails Sky would not suffer greatly and just use the bandwidth for some other money making scheme.

I am though a supporter of free enterprise and the arts. Without it RB and the Kirov would not have been seen in London last summer. And ENB would not have been seen by so many and the Festival Hall would not have a new Xmas show. And one of the most sucessfull dance companies in the land costs nobody a dime - AMP. And it inovated too!


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eugene merrett

13-12-00, 09:58 AM (GMT)
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5. "RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala"
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   Admittedly Artworld is not owned by Sky but it is Murdoch visionary approach to TV entertainment that makes Artsworld possible. His rivals ON Digital may have more ethical management but they are not able to provide the Artworld service. It just proves my point good result do not require good intentions in free market world!


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Carly Gillies

13-12-00, 12:59 PM (GMT)
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6. "RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala"
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   >You can thank Rupert Murdoch for
>your culture.

Unfortunately we also have him to thank for our perceptions of world events as most of our 'news' is channelled through Murdoch owned media.

It is ironic
>that everyone accuses him of
>degrading news by his smutty
>papers - but he has
>given us Sky News, rescued
>the News industry from the
>most outrageous Union practices and
>given a superb Satelite TV
>service with close to 20
>news and documentary channels!!

Um.. This sounds a bit like defending Hitler from accusations of smoke pollution from a few tall chimneys, because all he really did was to promote clean living, fresh air and exercise !

>
>It proves Adam Smith's brilliant statement
>that society is furthered by
>the actions of individuals acting
>in their own self interest
>- more so then if
>individuals were acting out of
>good intentions alone.

The important and contentious word here being "furthered" I would suggest.
I can't remember who it was that said something truly wise about "power" and "corruption"

>
>I think Murdoch should be knighted
>or given a peerage!!

I'm sure it'll happen !


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Kate R

13-12-00, 01:49 PM (GMT)
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7. "RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala"
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   Where can one get teh schedule? I looked i na couple of mags and it wasn't in there.


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Karen R

13-12-00, 02:59 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala"
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   I agree it is frustrating that no schedules are appearing anywhere in print. The only way to find out is either to look on the TV on the Sky TV Guide, which is tedious and only shows a couple of days in advance or to log on to the website at Artsworld.com That gives the schedule for the current week and the following week.


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eugene merrett

13-12-00, 04:10 PM (GMT)
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9. "RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala"
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   Carly if you are going to make a serious comment you should not exaggerate.(I only exaggerate when I am not serious)

Most of our news media does not come from Murdoch. We have more vairety of news then any country in the World. Murdoch does not control BBC, the Indie, Guardian or the Telegraph. The fact that more people want to read the Sun then the Express, Mirror etc is soley because more people want to read the Sun and not through any anti-competive measure. You cannot hold that against him. All our support staff read the Sun!

You also cannot deny that Sky Digital is a superb serive with 20 news and documentay channel including the superb Discovery channel which is VASTLY superior to BBC 2 etc. It does not exaggerate, sensationalize like so many BBC documentaries . Only SkyNews is owned by Murdoch and I think it is pretty good!

But the reason why I feel so strongly about Murdoch is because he made my childhood year alot happier. As a teenager growing up in the US and Canada, TV use to consit of insipid politically correct shows like the Crosbie Show. . Murdoch launched a new channel at phenominal risk which provided shows with a harder, less prudish or political correct edge such as the Simpson, Married with Children etc. He shook the entire US TV industry!!

I cannot see the the parrallet between my analysis and Hitler. But I have no illusions about Murdoch as a person - I have yet to meet a businessman who I would ever trust!! But what keeps the like of Murdoch in line is competition. As long as he no strangle hold over the TV and news market then his actions can only benefit society. BUT the key word here is Competition!


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Carly Gillies

14-12-00, 09:06 AM (GMT)
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10. "RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala"
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   >Carly if you are going to
>make a serious comment you
>should not exaggerate.(I only exaggerate
>when I am not serious)
>
>
> Ah Eugene, now you got me.
Cos now I don't know whether you're being serious, or joking, or something else entirely.
I'm always serious when it comes to the mass media and the enormous power those who control the various aspects of it have.
It's too scary to be otherwise.


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Kevin Ng

14-12-00, 12:43 PM (GMT)
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11. "RE: Ferri in R and J at La Scala"
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   Eugene, I guess that you must have done an Economics degree at university.


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