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Jim

20-11-00, 09:26 AM (GMT)
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"Alicia Markove"
 
   There's an Omnibus programme about Alicia Markova tonight (Mon 20th), BBC1 10.35 pm.


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Alicia Markova Stephanie Wragg 21-11-00 1
     RE: Alicia Markova Helen 21-11-00 2
         RE: Alicia Markova Stephanie Wragg 21-11-00 3
             RE: Alicia Markova Karen R 21-11-00 4
                 RE: Alicia Markova Stephanie Wragg 21-11-00 5
         RE: Alicia Markova Jim 22-11-00 6
             RE: Alicia Markova Helen 22-11-00 7
                 Alicia Markova Jim 22-11-00 9
     RE: Alicia Markova p.s.stammers 22-11-00 8
         RE: Alicia Markova pmeja 22-11-00 10

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Stephanie Wragg

21-11-00, 09:19 AM (GMT)
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1. "RE: Alicia Markova"
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   I saw this programme last night and found it quite interesting. It was lovely to see archive footage of Markova's dancing, although some of it could have been slowed down to a more realistic speed (or was everything danced faster back then?) as it made her look a bit funny and according to fans, funny was the last thing she seemed to elicit.

As with other programmes, it left me wanting for more. If this programme was your first ever introduction to her, the only impression one gets is that she was glamorous and travelled a lot, as opposed to a pioneer in the same category as Rambert and de Valois.

I wish we could have seen her feet more, as I am puzzled by this size 2 1/2 she is famed for! The segment with Wayne Sleep was also very revealing of her impressions of current dancers, according to her they rush through port de bras and show their teeth too much! It would have been nice to see her show the many dance-related souvenirs she must have acquired in her career, or a more detailed discussion of a Cecchetti class with the man himself, or a an account of the actual technical level of the Diaghilev dancers from 1925-1929. So basically, a 4-5 hour programme would do it!


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Helen

21-11-00, 10:32 AM (GMT)
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2. "RE: Alicia Markova"
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   I saw Markova dance quite often in the 1950s, and these archive films look very much as I remember her, though I'm not sure about the speed thing. I was very young at the time! She was (and presumably still is) very tiny, so I suppose the shoe size is a possibility. When I was 11 years old I presented her with a bouquet on stage at the Liverpool Empire (I have to tell everybody this, and am very boring about it!) and I was easily as tall as she was. I watched her dance The Dying Swan from the wings, so it was fascinating to see that film. To me at that age she looked exactly as I imagined Pavlova would have looked. Ballet heaven!


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Stephanie Wragg

21-11-00, 10:40 AM (GMT)
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3. "RE: Alicia Markova"
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   Wow, what an amazing story! It's not tboring at all, you were very fortunate to witness her performance from the wings and then be able to present a bouquet.

I have a friend who has a picture of herself as a child receiving a hug from Margot Fonteyn dressed for Les Sylphides, after an Australian Tour performance and it takes pride of place in her living room!


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Karen R

21-11-00, 02:55 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: Alicia Markova"
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   I recorded the documentary and have yet to watch it but I do look forward to it. Why the puzzlement over her foot size. I am also a 2 1/2, it always causes great consternation in shoe shops but as I am less than 5 feet tall they fit me! My first ballet shoes were AAA width and had to be specially made. I still have them.


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Stephanie Wragg

21-11-00, 03:40 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: Alicia Markova"
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   Why the puzzlement
>over her foot size.
>I am also a 2
>1/2, it always causes great
>consternation in shoe shops but
>as I am less than
>5 feet tall they fit
>me! ***Good for you! I am amazed because I fit an 8.5 to 9 American shoe size and my pointe shoe size is 6.5 D. That's why.


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Jim

22-11-00, 08:18 AM (GMT)
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6. "RE: Alicia Markova"
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   >I presented her with a bouquet on stage at the Liverpool Empire(I have to tell everybody this, and am very boring about it!)

Hey, that's not boring! I saw my bouquet of flowers (admittedly only delivered to the stage door) presented to Sylvie Guillem at a curtain call when she danced in Leicester. I felt the proudest person in the whole wide world!

(For those who don't know, I've also got a pair of Darcey's point shoes - size 4)


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Helen

22-11-00, 09:10 AM (GMT)
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7. "RE: Alicia Markova"
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   It's nice to have an appreciative audience for my Markova story. I didn't have my photo taken with her like Stephanie's friend with Fonteyn, but she did kiss me, and afterwards sent me a signed photo with my name on it, which I still treasure after very nearly (help!) fifty years.


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Jim

22-11-00, 04:32 PM (GMT)
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9. "Alicia Markova"
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   >I didn't have my photo taken with her like Stephanie's
>friend with Fonteyn, but she did kiss me

Hey, I had my hand squeezed by Beryl Grey!

BRUCE: There's your next ballet.co poll: "which dancers have you had physical contact with?" Oh, no Bruce, you might overheat the system


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p.s.stammers

22-11-00, 01:21 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: Alicia Markova"
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   I am sure the speed of dance was related to the film speed.
Early film was recorded at a different speed today.


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pmeja

22-11-00, 05:04 PM (GMT)
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10. "RE: Alicia Markova"
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   i don't know about that, though. the dance critic anne barzel, who is from chicago, has a famed collection of silent film that she took herself beginning in the 1930s. she would come often to our school to give lectures, and i recall seeing film of markova dancing giselle with anton dolin and many other such films from the 1930s that didn't seem speeded up. now for theatrical film, i know that silent and sound speeds are different, but i don't know about these, which were essentially "home" movies. her collection, by the way, is at the newberry library in chicago. miss barzel, who is in her 90s, is still alive and kicking, so to speak!


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